Video: Man gets arrested for defending his daughter at school meeting

[Brett85]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...-his-daughter/

Gilford school officials claim the book, “Nineteen Minutes” by Jodi Picoult, contains important themes about a school shooting. But some parents believe a scene described in the book is inappropriate for their children.

According to WCVB-TV, the book contains a graphic description of rough sex between two teenagers, which parents were unaware of until the book had already been distributed to their kids.

— Click here to read excerpts from the explicit passage —

“I was shocked when I read the passage and not much shocks me anymore,” William Baer told EAG News. “My wife was stunned by the increasingly graphic nature of the sexual content of the scene and the imagery it evoked.”

He went to the school board meeting to express his objections.

“It’s absurd,” he told the school board.

“Sir, would you please be respectful of the other people?” a school board member responded.

“Like you’re respectful of my daughter, right? And my children?” he countered.

A police officer then arrived at the scene, instructing Baer to leave with him.

“You are going to arrest me because I violated the two-minute rule?” the father said. “I guess you are going to have to arrest me.”

Moments later, Baer was escorted outside and placed in handcuffs. According to WMUR-TV, he was charged with disorderly conduct because he did not immediately leave when asked by an officer.

His wife spoke to the media shortly after the incident.

“I fully understand how he feels. It really is a huge violation,” Barbara Baer told WCVB.

“Why should those ideas be put in their mind? They can discuss this some other way. They don’t need that kind of imagery,” she added.

School district officials said they normally send out notifications to parents before assigning the controversial book, but forgot to do so this time.

According to WCVB, school officials did not answer any questions Monday or vote on anything regarding the book.

“Many people in education and government truly believe our children are theirs,” William Baer told EAG News. “That parents are only the custodians who feed them and put a roof over their head. These school incidents are a byproduct of this ‘we know best’ philosophy. They believe they have the authority to do this. If people were more complacent, which is hard to imagine, it’d be even worse.”

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

People who call the police like this need the holy $#@! beat out of them.

[Anti Federalist]

First Amendment?

Never $#@!ing heard of it. - Officer Friendly.

Goddamn shame this happened in NH.

[Cissy]

The "arrest" could have been stopped if the other adults had stood up and made it clear that they would not tolerate arresting a man for speaking his beliefs.

Shame that didn't happen.

[Keith and stuff]

First Amendment?

Never $#@!ing heard of it. - Officer Friendly.

Goddamn shame this happened in NH.

There is no First Amendment right to speak at a indoor public meeting when someone else is supposed to be speaking.

Anyway, thank goodness this story got so much attention! Because the parents were so upset and of the widespread coverage, the district changed from the policy of allowing parents to opt-out of controversial information to the parents now having to opt-in. This empowers parents! Hopefully freedom spreads not just in New Hampshire, but nationally because of this!

This isn't just a way to promote the awesome freedom people are gaining in New Hampshire. You can bring this to the attention of your local school board. Ask the board to create an opt-in policy and increase freedom where you live.

[Keith and stuff]

The "arrest" could have been stopped if the other adults had stood up and made it clear that they would not tolerate arresting a man for speaking his beliefs.

Shame that didn't happen.

It might not have become as big of a story then. Perhaps the school district might not even have switched to any amazing, pro-liberty opt-in policy then. Don't feel to sorry for the man. He is a lawyer and I believe he moved to NH from NJ. He is tough and will care on another day

[Nirvikalpa]

$#@! like this kills me. It really kills me.

Talks of semen and spread legs and even rape are found in the Bible, for God's sake.

I get why this guy did it. I get that what happened was wrong from a liberty prospective, but damn... these parents are bat$#@! crazy and I'm free to criticize.

A 9th grader? 14? If she has her own personal computer, she can find way better NC-17 stories on fanfiction.net, or she can just download the million of copies of Fifty Shades of Gray PDF's on the internetz.

$#@!, I really hate to break it to the old-school parents out there, but some kids are masturbating by age 14. Some do it way earlier.

I really think some parents need to wake up - I don't think the enemy here is sex or the openness of sexual discussion. European countries (especially the Netherlands) have had comprehensive sex education, some have legalized prostitution, most have completely nude or topless beaches... and... also extremely low teenage pregnancy rates! We have as much as 10x as many teen births as some European countries that actually realize puberty and hormones make kids interested in sex, and yes, that kids are going to experiment with their bodies - alone and *gasp* with other people. Crazy, I know.

Wait until they open up their kid's biology textbooks.

[Christopher A. Brown]

European countries (especially the Netherlands) have had comprehensive sex education, some have legalized prostitution, most have completely nude or topless beaches... and... also extremely low teenage pregnancy

Societal context is lost because the European societies you refer to have inherent and widespread respect for sex. Their media is heavily controlled by public opinion, including film.

Most importantly they teach that fertility has responsibility.

So yes, they are open, but each family takes it upon themselves to teach responsibility, and they do not allow media to usurp the educational responsibility. What is taught in schools matches what is taught at home.

Sexualization without that responsibility invites misinterpretation of all media content later on.

Americans are so irresponsible socially they are even afraid to accept publicly that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to assure information vital to survival is shared and understood.

What do you think children learn from that?

[Weston White]

Exactly this:

“I was shocked when I read the passage, and not much shocks me anymore,” Baer says. “My wife was stunned by the increasingly graphic nature of the sexual content of the scene and the imagery it evoked.”

Baer, who is an attorney, believes that if someone stood outside the school and handed out copies of the novel’s sexually charged passage to students, he would likely be arrested and prosecuted.

He questions why it’s acceptable for “the state, through its schools and agents,” to mandate reading and discussing this same material.

He believes the politicians and educators running the public school system want to dismantle the family unit, and undermine traditional morality, “though they’re never going to admit this.”

“Many people in education and government truly believe our children are theirs. That parents are only the custodians who feed them and put a roof over their head. These school incidents are a byproduct of this ‘we know best’ philosophy. They believe they have the authority to do this. If people were more complacent, which is hard to imagine, it’d be even worse.”

California’s Sobrato High School includes the novel on its “9th Grade Advanced Common Core” recommended reading list.

ETA:

What is it with these too short verbal appeal times in public meetings or hearings? How in the world can you be expected to make any sort of valid or convincing plea within just 2 to 3-minutes to anybody, least of all to those that are already firmly clawing their hard rubberstamps inside of their hot, chubby fingers, so tightly that their own sweat pools beneath their hotly beating forearms?

[Mani]

Exactly this:



ETA:

What is it with these too short verbal appeal times in public meetings or hearings? How in the world can you be expected to make any sort of valid or convincing plea within just 2 to 3-minutes to anybody, least of all to those that are already firmly clawing their hard rubberstamps inside of their hot, chubby fingers, so tightly that their own sweat pools beneath their hotly beating forearms?

The illusion of public debate and having your voice heard.

[LibertyEagle]

$#@! like this kills me. It really kills me.

Talks of semen and spread legs and even rape are found in the Bible, for God's sake.

I get why this guy did it. I get that what happened was wrong from a liberty prospective, but damn... these parents are bat$#@! crazy and I'm free to criticize.

A 9th grader? 14? If she has her own personal computer, she can find way better NC-17 stories on fanfiction.net, or she can just download the million of copies of Fifty Shades of Gray PDF's on the internetz.

$#@!, I really hate to break it to the old-school parents out there, but some kids are masturbating by age 14. Some do it way earlier.

I really think some parents need to wake up - I don't think the enemy here is sex or the openness of sexual discussion. European countries (especially the Netherlands) have had comprehensive sex education, some have legalized prostitution, most have completely nude or topless beaches... and... also extremely low teenage pregnancy rates! We have as much as 10x as many teen births as some European countries that actually realize puberty and hormones make kids interested in sex, and yes, that kids are going to experiment with their bodies - alone and *gasp* with other people. Crazy, I know.

Wait until they open up their kid's biology textbooks.

That's your decision to make for your child, if you are their parent and it should have been the same in this case. The school had no business taking that decision away from the parents and neither should someone else's parent.

[moostraks]

$#@! like this kills me. It really kills me.

Talks of semen and spread legs and even rape are found in the Bible, for God's sake.

I get why this guy did it. I get that what happened was wrong from a liberty prospective, but damn... these parents are bat$#@! crazy and I'm free to criticize.

A 9th grader? 14? If she has her own personal computer, she can find way better NC-17 stories on fanfiction.net, or she can just download the million of copies of Fifty Shades of Gray PDF's on the internetz.

$#@!, I really hate to break it to the old-school parents out there, but some kids are masturbating by age 14. Some do it way earlier.

I really think some parents need to wake up - I don't think the enemy here is sex or the openness of sexual discussion. European countries (especially the Netherlands) have had comprehensive sex education, some have legalized prostitution, most have completely nude or topless beaches... and... also extremely low teenage pregnancy rates! We have as much as 10x as many teen births as some European countries that actually realize puberty and hormones make kids interested in sex, and yes, that kids are going to experiment with their bodies - alone and *gasp* with other people. Crazy, I know.

Wait until they open up their kid's biology textbooks.

And your attitude is why I won't let my children near a government school because some people who think that children can and should read this garbage become educators and pervert our society with an increased measure to each generation. Just because some parents don't properly supervise what their children are being exposed to does not then mean that others parents should just go with the herd. Call me another bat$#@! crazy parent for being concerned that my children not read porn at 14.

[tod evans]

Does anyone else see the irony of a lawyer arguing for morality?

[Todd]

$#@! like this kills me. It really kills me.

Talks of semen and spread legs and even rape are found in the Bible, for God's sake.

I get why this guy did it. I get that what happened was wrong from a liberty prospective, but damn... these parents are bat$#@! crazy and I'm free to criticize.

A 9th grader? 14? If she has her own personal computer, she can find way better NC-17 stories on fanfiction.net, or she can just download the million of copies of Fifty Shades of Gray PDF's on the internetz.

$#@!, I really hate to break it to the old-school parents out there, but some kids are masturbating by age 14. Some do it way earlier.

I really think some parents need to wake up - I don't think the enemy here is sex or the openness of sexual discussion. European countries (especially the Netherlands) have had comprehensive sex education, some have legalized prostitution, most have completely nude or topless beaches... and... also extremely low teenage pregnancy rates! We have as much as 10x as many teen births as some European countries that actually realize puberty and hormones make kids interested in sex, and yes, that kids are going to experiment with their bodies - alone and *gasp* with other people. Crazy, I know.

Wait until they open up their kid's biology textbooks.

Didn't they remove the bible from schools many moons ago?

[Philhelm]

I wonder how explicit the sexual content was.

[juleswin]

I wonder how explicit the sexual content was.

Explicit enough for a parent to be worried. You know, I am no prude but parents needs to be informed about things like this. Yes some kids probably know about these things, yes some have sex and masturbate but I think its different when the school authorities introduce concepts like this to the kids. I think its normalizes it in their minds and I too will be opposed to anything that normalizes rough sex to my teenage kids.

[DamianTV]

Heres the video.



Part 2, from another camera.



Lesson: Obey the Schoolboard and their arbitrary rules and enforce those rules as if they were Law, which, again, turns ordinary people who do not comply with their rules into Criminals. This proves there are TWO books that they use to enforce. One, the book of rules that people supposedly vote on, or have "representation" and the other, are policies that are written in by some busybody with zero authority to do so.

Oh, and he's a Doctor? Oh, and hes Resisting Arrest? $#@!ing typical.

[kcchiefs6465]

I wonder how explicit the sexual content was.

Here’s an excerpt from the explicit passage:

“‘Relax,’ Matt murmured, and then he sank his teeth into her shoulder. He pinned her hands over her head and ground his hips against hers. She could feel his erection, hot against her stomach.

” … She couldn’t remember ever feeling so heavy, as if her heart were beating between her legs. She clawed at Matt’s back to bring him closer.

“‘Yeah,’ he groaned, and her pushed her thighs apart. And then suddenly Matt was inside her, pumping so hard that she scooted backward on the carpet, burning the backs of her legs. … (H)e clamped his hand over her mouth and drove harder and harder until Josie felt him come.

“Semen, sticky and hot, pooled on the carpet beneath her.”

..

[kcchiefs6465]

Just to be clear, they won't teach your kids about the tax code, the monetary system, or banking in general but they surely find the time to have them reading pornographic-lite material, teaching them useless mathematical concepts, or using their classrooms, as per No Child Left Behind, to indoctrinate and inculcate children to be cannon fodder.

Yes, they'll spend time each day and devote resources about the 'need' to go to college. That everyone needs to go, certain fields are multiplying, and that it matters not how much debt one goes into to obtain their degree. They'll never tell the kid that what they are borrowing is depreciating toilet tissue.

[ClydeCoulter]

[Keith and stuff]

Didn't they remove the bible from schools many moons ago?

Some schools removed the Bible. Some of those schools brought it back. Typically, something like that is up to the school district. Where I went to school it was opt-in. You could apply to take the Bible class or you could choice to not apply for the class.

[PaulConventionWV]

They believe they have the authority to do this. If people were more complacent, which is hard to imagine, it’d be even worse.”

He got that right.

[pcosmar]

That's your decision to make for your child, if you are their parent and it should have been the same in this case. The school had no business taking that decision away from the parents and neither should someone else's parent.

The school has every business doing what ever the state wants.. It is a $#@!ing State School.

Has been for Decades. If parents are upset with they need to stop sending their kids into that environment.
Home school,, Start their own school,, You send kids to a State school you are letting the State raise them.

[Matthew5]

but damn... these parents are bat$#@! crazy and I'm free to criticize.

Do you have children?

[LibertyEagle]

The school has every business doing what ever the state wants.. It is a $#@!ing State School.

Has been for Decades. If parents are upset with they need to stop sending their kids into that environment.
Home school,, Start their own school,, You send kids to a State school you are letting the State raise them.

So, in your world, parents should just shut the hell up about anything having to do with government, eh? Funny, because I'm thinking this is how we got into this mess to begin with.

[pcosmar]

So, in your world, parents should just shut the hell up about anything having to do with government, eh? Funny, because I'm thinking this is how we got into this mess to begin with.

NO,, they should educate their own children,, There should not be any such thing as state run schools.. It is not and never was something that the State should be in any way involved in,, And certainly not at the Federal Level with a Department of Education. Not at the federal level ,,not at the state level,,not even at the county level.. It is at the parents level.. Parrents want a school? Hire a teacher and Build a room for the school.

Don't like the books,,don't buy them. Don't like the teacher,, fire em. Parental control on a very local level (Folks you know personally).
It is not in any way,,or on any level ,, a government function.

If it is,, you have a problem.

[angelatc]

$#@! like this kills me. It really kills me.

Talks of semen and spread legs and even rape are found in the Bible, for God's sake.

But most youth group pastors sensibly avoid teaching those passages.

Most teenagers, including teen boys, are not emotionally ready to have a public school teacher assign them soft-core porn as a reading assignment, especially in a mixed-sex setting with a pervy public school teacher tacitly forcing you to admit you read it.

The thing about sex that liberals miss is that it is the very nature of most people to keep sex private. At the end of the day we like it being taboo and naughty. And secret.

[Nirvikalpa]

Societal context is lost because the European societies you refer to have inherent and widespread respect for sex. Their media is heavily controlled by public opinion, including film.

Most importantly they teach that fertility has responsibility.

So yes, they are open, but each family takes it upon themselves to teach responsibility, and they do not allow media to usurp the educational responsibility. What is taught in schools matches what is taught at home.

Sexualization without that responsibility invites misinterpretation of all media content later on.

Americans are so irresponsible socially they are even afraid to accept publicly that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to assure information vital to survival is shared and understood.

What do you think children learn from that?

Yes, I agree, and there is where the problem is. It's hardly taught at home, and just learned in schools - government schools. There's a big divide there between the shame & embarrassment most Americans feel, and the respect & responsibility the Europeans feel about sex.

And your attitude is why I won't let my children near a government school because some people who think that children can and should read this garbage become educators and pervert our society with an increased measure to each generation. Just because some parents don't properly supervise what their children are being exposed to does not then mean that others parents should just go with the herd. Call me another bat$#@! crazy parent for being concerned that my children not read porn at 14.

Huh? What? And good - keep your kids at home, which is the true liberty message here. Realism apparently is a scary thing to a lot of people.

Do you have children?

Yes I do; here's a write-up on them.

[donnay]

$#@! like this kills me. It really kills me.

Talks of semen and spread legs and even rape are found in the Bible, for God's sake.

I get why this guy did it. I get that what happened was wrong from a liberty prospective, but damn... these parents are bat$#@! crazy and I'm free to criticize.

A 9th grader? 14? If she has her own personal computer, she can find way better NC-17 stories on fanfiction.net, or she can just download the million of copies of Fifty Shades of Gray PDF's on the internetz.

$#@!, I really hate to break it to the old-school parents out there, but some kids are masturbating by age 14. Some do it way earlier.

I really think some parents need to wake up - I don't think the enemy here is sex or the openness of sexual discussion. European countries (especially the Netherlands) have had comprehensive sex education, some have legalized prostitution, most have completely nude or topless beaches... and... also extremely low teenage pregnancy rates! We have as much as 10x as many teen births as some European countries that actually realize puberty and hormones make kids interested in sex, and yes, that kids are going to experiment with their bodies - alone and *gasp* with other people. Crazy, I know.

Wait until they open up their kid's biology textbooks.

I take it you do not have children?

[Deborah K]

There is no First Amendment right to speak at a indoor public meeting when someone else is supposed to be speaking.

Anyway, thank goodness this story got so much attention! Because the parents were so upset and of the widespread coverage, the district changed from the policy of allowing parents to opt-out of controversial information to the parents now having to opt-in. This empowers parents! Hopefully freedom spreads not just in New Hampshire, but nationally because of this!

This isn't just a way to promote the awesome freedom people are gaining in New Hampshire. You can bring this to the attention of your local school board. Ask the board to create an opt-in policy and increase freedom where you live.

How is forcing parents to opt in, freedom? And, as far as I can tell, this was a public school - meaning it is government run. The Bill of Rights should therefor apply.