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    Oath Keeper Statement Regarding NY Times Article

    I'm going to post this in a few places, and maybe make a new thread for it:


    OATH KEEPER STATEMENT REGARDING NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE:


    “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.




    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”


    If the above quote is accurate, of course we vehemently disagree with that viewpoint as it is entirely inconsistent with our values. No one is ever better off as a slave under any circumstances. We stand for the liberty of all Americans at all times and we stand for the liberties of all mankind of every race, creed, and color. Our stand at the Bundy Ranch is about liberty and freedom from government oppression for all Americans.


    In fact there are black Oath Keeper veterans standing watch at Bundy Ranch. Among them was Navy veteran David Berry.




    Dave Berry attended our first conference in Las Vegas in 2009 to see for himself whether the smear attacks of SPLC were true. He found that we were simply Constitutionalists defending everyone’s rights. That is what we will continue to do, which is why he was here with us at the Bundy Ranch.


    Our Bylaws are very clear that this organization is open to all Americans and that we oppose all racism.


    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/bylaws-of-oath-keepers/


    We are awaiting clarification by Mr. Bundy and if he makes that clarification we will post it here.


    However, regardless of what he said and what his position is the stand we are taking is not just about the Bundys, but about the whole west and the methodical attack on the west to impoverish rural America and drive us off the land.


    Using the endangered species act as a weapon of mass destruction against us to kill the livelihood of ranchers, farmers, loggers, etc., and to crush rural America as explained by Montana State Senator Jennifer Fielder in “Taking Back Our Lands”.


    http://northwestlibertynews.com/News...Our-Lands.aspx


    That is why Oath Keeper founder, Stewart Rhodes has helped bring the Coalition of Western States Legislators and Sheriffs together to form the Coalition of Western States (C.O.W.S.) led by Washington State Representative Matt Shea.


    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2014/04/...waco%E2%80%9D/


    In addition, Stewart is working closely with Nevada Assemblywoman Michelle Fiore to organize resistance by Nevada County Commissioners and Sheriffs. Stewart and Michelle Fiore will be attending the Nye County Republican Party Central Committee meeting this Saturday [Saturday, 26 April 2014] at the invitation of the Chairman to discuss strategy for Nye County to resist BLM abuse. We will be doing this across the west calling on and assisting all rural Americans and asserting their rights just as we were answering the call in Connecticut and New York where the 2nd Amendment is under assault. Our strategy is to get those who have sworn the oath both inside and outside government to honor it by defending all the Constitution for all Americans.


    As two time Medal of Honor winner Smedley Butler said:


    “There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights.”


    Note: See General Butler’s biography here:
    http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/...ley-Butler.htm


    Signed: Oath Keepers



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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    I'm going to post this in a few places, and maybe make a new thread for it:


    OATH KEEPER STATEMENT REGARDING NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE:


    “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.




    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
    There are elements of this that are on the money. There are a few points that are off.

    The biggest problem I have with this is purely contextual. Bundy should be keeping his hole shut at this point. But no, in typical human fashion he has to embellish, thinking perhaps that he has some mandate to open his hole and spew forth his opinions. He surely has the right to do this. And people have the right to light torches and sharpen pitchforks.

    Seriously, just how stoopid does a man have to be to make these sorts of statements in an environment so hostile to free speech? He is putting a noose of public opinion around his own neck and cinching it up goodly tight.

    What a dunce.
    Last edited by osan; 04-25-2014 at 07:44 AM.
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    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

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    Maybe we need to start standing up for free speech more as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    Maybe we need to start standing up for free speech more as well.
    That is a worthy point.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    Maybe we need to start standing up for free speech more as well.
    I stand unfailingly for the inherent right of men to freely speak. But when they speak and express their ignorance, I do not stand with them.

    Yet one needn't respect a particular man in order to respect his rights.



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