They also left out the detail that cersei was on her period.Originally Posted by fr33
...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
Probably for the best...
...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
Yeah I was baffled at the "outcry" over the scene in the sept. In the books she's pounding her fists on her back and angry at him, but then it turns enthusiastic. Dany has a similar experience where she's crying and shy until she takes over. Frankly I find that a much more disturbing framework for that kind of scene. It implies that if a woman says no, if she's kicking and screaming and beating on you and telling you to stop, you should just keep going until she starts liking it.
There is also much more consensual sex in the show, though much of that happens in brothels to allow for exposition of plot AND flesh simultaneously.
People who think the book is not worse on this front don't seem to have given much thought to what happens when Drogo takes over the Lamb People, or where the entire concept of Craster and his daughters/wives came from.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
It will be interesting where tonight's episode will take us in light of last weeks new development....
There's a 'check your privilege' type of feminist on another forum that is furious about the 'rape' scenes in the show, how they've turned Jaime into a villain because of it, etc. Boggles the mind how she throws out 'check your privilege' in nearly every post while just skating around the nature of sexual relationships in the book.
The epitome of libertarian populism
Last night might possibly have been the most boring episode of the entire series. They even managed to turn a sinister situation with Sansa into a blink-and-you-missed-it arrival to the Vale.
And they ended the unnecessary mingling of Jon's storyline, Locke's storyline, and Bran's... okay let's call it a storyline... with Bran having to make a "tough choice" to stay the course and keep looking for his three-eyed raven.
Why... just why...
Who read the books and thought "know what? We totally need more Bran. And bonus points if he's played by a weirdly Britty girl-looking boy."
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
I liked last night's ep.
And it gave me a laugh to hear Tywin's rant over Westeros' own central bank , the unyielding Iron Bank
Bran sucks. Book and show. I wish Jaime had actually killed him. That guy who hit him last week quickly became my hero and then they had Jon kill him. They really do kill off all the good characters. Oh well. We get more Stannis the Mannis next week.
...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
I've thought the last two episodes were pretty boring. I saw somewhere that the show had been renewed for two more seasons and the author is still writing books in the series, so more boring episodes may be in store.
I currently love the show, but I can see it going, for me, the way of "The Walking Dead" and "How I Met your Mother." TWD went straight boring so much so that it seemed like every episode consisted of 12 minutes of Rick looking off in silence. How I met... just never got to the point and drug out everything to fill episodes. I fear that Game of Thrones could go the same direction.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
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Since this is "TV Show only" I won't get into the direction it actually goes. I did find a few things to be interested in last week, and I found a few of the additions to be interesting, but after last night's episode the entire Bran sidequest was so contrivedHe ended it all by sliding into Hodor's mind, but he could not have done that while they were being captured? Or when the fighting started? There were a couple of really important things missing from the book to the show that they could have fit in, rather than what they chose to depict.
Overall I'm still happy with most of their shortcuts and consolidations, but yes, they need to tread carefully or the payoffs will stop being worth all the longwinded family histories and Cersei-smirks.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
I liked it when Bran used his hodor pokeman to battle., but after last night's episode the entire Bran sidequest was so contrived
I'm also pretty sure I caught Hodor saying "ow" when they stabbed his leg in the episode before last.
YOU HAD ONE JOB, ACTOR!
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
Agree that last nights episode was boring. I was literally falling asleep watching it. I made it through but when i woke up this morning i had trouble recalling what even happened, because it all seemed so unremarkable. Hoping it picks up again soon.
The episode 2 weeks ago was pretty good though. Except... we got to see a tv show spoiling the books. LOL
It will pick up. The last three episodes of this season in particular will cover some of my favorite moments from book 3.
...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
Then I will stay excited! I'm definitely looking forward to Tyrion's trial and hoping that we see more of Jaime's story...oh yeah, and praying that Auria goes and becomes an elite assassin. Heck yeah, I'm juiced up again!Since this is "TV Show only" I won't get into the direction it actually goes. I did find a few things to be interested in last week, and I found a few of the additions to be interesting, but after last night's episode the entire Bran sidequest was so contrived
Overall I'm still happy with most of their shortcuts and consolidations, but yes, they need to tread carefully or the payoffs will stop being worth all the longwinded family histories and Cersei-smirks.
lol @ the Bran thing; last week, I turned to my fiance when Bran and co. got captured and said "why didn't he just mind eff them?"
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Didn't even know this thread existedyee haw
well, for argument, its not really a word, its more of a noise, so Hodor can keep Hodoring it doesn't bother me.
Last nights episode was semi boring, but so much happened in the previous episodes, its a nice anchor/breathing point to lead us up to the finale of Season 4 (which is coming up way too soon!).
However, yesterday's episode has one of the biggest reveals in the show so far, about Lysa poisoning Jon Arryn, and Littlefinger being behind it.
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Again, if you're getting bored with this season, just keep watching because you will be blown away by the stuff that happens later on. It's next season that you should be worried about. Several particular character POV storylines in books 4 and 5 were almost unreadable.
...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
Really enjoyed Tyrion's trial. They stuck to the book really well.
...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
So what's Tyrion's play? Does he have to fight? Can he get his buddy or Jaime to fight for him? From the looks of the previews, it didn't look like Jaime was fighting for him. They better give me a payoff on that trial next week and not make me wait two...or four!
Tonight's show had me glued to the tube; so many things opened up. Is the Iron Bank going to call up the Lanister/7 Kingdoms debt? Are they backing Stanis, how much? On and on! It should be a fun few episodes to round out this season.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
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Also really enjoyed tonight;s episode. Finally felt like something actually happened. It was obvious Jamie was going to do something during the trial. For a minute I thought he might grow balls and lay it all out there...say his kids are not Baratheons and Tyrion is innocent. Was a bit let down by his compromise, but Tyrion's grand ending made up for it.
I agree with Bama, really hoping to see Tyrion's plot advanced hard next week, Don't wanna wait around for it while Bran frollics in the snow and Daenerys makes small talk with her peoples.
In a trial by combat you can fight for yourself like the hound did last season or name a champion like Tyrion did in season 1. If you want a hint as to what happens, read the episode titles for the rest of this season.
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...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
Tyrion will use a champion. The prosecution chooses Loras Tyrell as its champion, while Tyrion chooses Roose Bolton. Roose Bolton wins because he reduces Loras to tears before the fight begins through masterful trolling ability.
"I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
-Stannis Baratheon
Lol. You should write an alternative AGOT universe script.
i'd love to see the 'dwarf' kick ass on some bad ass....
My favorite scene in S4E6 was the bit where Jaime cut a deal with Tywin to save Tyrion. That wasn't in the books, but it easily could have been. It fits the spirit and character of Jaime (and his relationship with Tyrion) really well. Nicely done, show, nicely done.
My least favorite bit was Stannis going begging to the Iron Bank of Braavos. In the books, it was the Iron Bank that approached Stannis, not the other way around. I like the way the book did it better. Among other things, it shows the Iron Bank taking an active role in the politics of Westeros, rather than just sitting on the sidelines until they are swayed by a pep-talk about how Stannis Baratheon always pays his debts - although I do have to admit I liked that little spiel the banker gave about how the Iron Bank prefers the stories told by numbers to the stories told by politicians. (Fashion spoiler: Also, I hope that this doesn't mean we won't still get to see Tycho Nestoris at some point - I really want to see if and how they do that three-tiered purple hat ...)
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Stannis can't catch a break in the series. It's almost a conspiratorial character assassination.
Either way, the worst scene had to be the pathetic attempt to rescue Theon. The whole scene seemed rushed, and just strange. Did they just run from the dogs and jump off the fortress battlements?
"I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
-Stannis Baratheon
Ok, this is probably crazy, but (I'm 17 minutes into the latest episode) I predict that Jaime will fight the Mountain. I'm probably wrong but making predictions is fun.
I predict not
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