Game of Thrones TV SHOW ONLY

[brandon]

The other thread is filled with spoilers so this is a new thread for TV show only. The rules are:

• As soon as an episode airs it's fair game to discuss it
• If you read the books you can discuss differences from things that ALREADY happened in the show to how they happened in the book
• Keep in mind the order of events in the show has been changed from the book so just because it didn't happen in the show yet doesn't mean it wont! Don't spoil major plotlines please!
• public statements made by actors/directors/GRRM related to the show are fair game to discuss as long as they aren't major spoilers.

Go!

[brandon]

Ok so my first question is how many more times do we need to watch Daenerys siege cities and free the slaves before she actually does something cool?

[brandon]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

[aGameOfThrones]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

The old man was going to lose it in a nice "the hound" way or in a bad "the mountain" way, the hound did him a favor. You gonna tell a total stranger you are being robbed and that you have money saved that the robbers were unable to take?

Even when the hound was wrong for what he did, he was right on what he said.

[Philhelm]

Why is Davos so loyal to Stannis? Stannis is an evil religious fanatic and is Melisandre's henchman, and never seems to listen to Davos' advice. The only thing good about Stannis is that he doesn't allow his imprisoned daughter to be beaten.

[Philhelm]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

He's the Hound. What did you expect?

I think it's okay for a libertarian to enjoy a fictional, evil(ish) character.

[Nolan]

Ok so my first question is how many more times do we need to watch Daenerys siege cities and free the slaves before she actually does something cool?

The first rule to GOT is not get attached to anyone. Listen to Little Finger.

[Victor Grey]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

I like how his character is being fleshed out.

He went from (in my view) this bland, standing mute guard with hinted at brother issues, to an actual character.

Sure does seem to be destined by fate to always guard over children no matter where he ends up. Children are drawn to him like refrigerator magnets for some reason.

Ok so my first question is how many more times do we need to watch Daenerys siege cities and free the slaves before she actually does something cool?

My bet is, until the dragons are big enough for her to ride. She'll probably poke around Essos until then. However long that will take. Seems every step of her story, revolves around the dragons being the usual chapter ender. By setting someone on fire.

6/10 someone that wanted her body. Rest someone that wanted her dragons. Often both.

[BamaAla]

Ok so my first question is how many more times do we need to watch Daenerys siege cities and free the slaves before she actually does something cool?

I don't know, but I'm over it; she just gets on my nerves. By the time she's ready to head over the sea, the fight is going to be with the white walkers.

[Carlybee]

I wonder if the scenes with Daenerys are so brief is because it's super expensive to film with all those extras. Although I wonder if some of that army is some sort of CGI or illusion. That would be a lot of extras, especially as her army keeps growing.

[fr33]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

Honestly a libertarian shouldn't waste time getting his or her panties in a wad. It's a story that is mainly about Westeros where feudalism and monarchism are the state. One can hope that these are abolished after the zombie apocalypse that seems to be brewing. That's what I'm hoping for.

[Smart3]

Why is Davos so loyal to Stannis? Stannis is an evil religious fanatic and is Melisandre's henchman, and never seems to listen to Davos' advice. The only thing good about Stannis is that he doesn't allow his imprisoned daughter to be beaten.

Without Stannis, Davos would still be a smuggler and might even be dead. Davos owes Stannis his life.

I don't know, but I'm over it; she just gets on my nerves. By the time she's ready to head over the sea, the fight is going to be with the white walkers.

A Song of Ice and Fire.

[Philhelm]

A Song of Ice and Fire.

TV show only!

[Nirvikalpa]

The producers are turning basically every consensual sex scene (in the books) into a rape scene in the show. The worst depiction was Daenerys & Drogo, who in the book had a very romantic and consensual marriage night. The show made you think he went from a monster in Daenerys eyes to a hulky hero deserving of respect - when in all honestly, he always had it and was never a monster. Suddenly "moon of my life" and "my sun and stars" makes sense.

Next was Cersei & Jaime in the room with their dead son, Joffrey.

[specsaregood]

The producers are turning basically every consensual sex scene (in the books) into a rape scene in the show. The worst depiction was Daenerys & Drogo, who in the book had a very romantic and consensual marriage night. Next was Cersei & Jaime in the room with their dead son, Joffrey.

Consensual or not, that scene was all sorts of $#@!ed up.

[Occam's Banana]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

That's another thing they changed from the books. In the books, instead of robbing this one farmer, he (and Arya) spend a few weeks in a small village where he does honest work for pay (repairing their walls and such). IIRC, he and Arya even consider staying on there through the winter - but he kinda makes the villagers antsy (he is the Hound, after all), and they can't spare the food & resources for the two "guests." So Sandor & Arya leave without further incident. He doesn't assault or rob anybody during this time.

[BamaAla]

Tonight's episode was sort of dull, IMHO. The story wasn't really advanced at all and the first 10 minutes were more boring Daenerys crap; have I told you I'm so over that plot? Bran and the siblings are captured, but why didn't Brandon just take over dude's head and nip that crap in the bud?

That said, the preview for next week looks promising.

[Carlybee]

I thought it was pretty good tonight actually. The Icewalker with the baby thing was interesting and we get to see a little more into Littlefinger's motives for those of us who have not read the books. I was confused about Brianne's mission though. Was he really sending her to protect Sansa or to bring her back so he could do Cersei's bidding?

[BamaAla]

I thought it was pretty good tonight actually. The Icewalker with the baby thing was interesting and we get to see a little more into Littlefinger's motives for those of us who have not read the books. I was confused about Brianne's mission though. Was he really sending her to protect Sansa or to bring her back so he could do Cersei's bidding?

Good question. Jaime obviously still loves his sister, but he looks like he's becoming disenchanted with her. After all of that talk about wanting to be a good person and to fill the book and the way he looks at Brianne, I'd guess (hope maybe) that he's sincere. Call me crazy, but I like The King Slayer and hope he marries Brianne and has little warrior babies!

[COpatriot]

If you thought the Daenerys storyline was boring now (and it is) it's getting to the point where book-readers really began to LOATHE that part of the book series.

Also, I need a gif of Bran's face getting slapped right now. Not tomorrow, NOW.

[Carlybee]

Good question. Jaime obviously still loves his sister, but he looks like he's becoming disenchanted with her. After all of that talk about wanting to be a good person and to fill the book and the way he looks at Brianne, I'd guess (hope maybe) that he's sincere. Call me crazy, but I like The King Slayer and hope he marries Brianne and has little warrior babies!

I think Cersei would have her head first.

[COpatriot]

Mmm yeah.

[BamaAla]

I think Cersei would have her head first.

lol, probably.

[specsaregood]

I'm pretty sure Arya is my favorite character so far. Not knowing anything about what will happen; I pick her to avenge her family and take the throne someday.

[Philhelm]

I'm pretty sure Arya is my favorite character so far. Not knowing anything about what will happen; I pick her to avenge her family and take the throne someday.

That's too bad. She is going to die this season. Probably an episode before the finale.

[specsaregood]

That's too bad. She is going to die this season. Probably an episode before the finale.

I don't believe you.

[Philhelm]

I don't believe you.

Ah, you got me. She'll probably survive the series, or at least live until the end. My favorite character walks around with a noose around his neck.

[BamaAla]

Ah, you got me. She'll probably survive the series, or at least live until the end. My favorite character walks around with a noose around his neck.

lol, that could be anyone. Tyrion?

[Nirvikalpa]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

That doesn't happen in the book, either!

[fr33]

The producers are turning basically every consensual sex scene (in the books) into a rape scene in the show. The worst depiction was Daenerys & Drogo, who in the book had a very romantic and consensual marriage night. The show made you think he went from a monster in Daenerys eyes to a hulky hero deserving of respect - when in all honestly, he always had it and was never a monster. Suddenly "moon of my life" and "my sun and stars" makes sense.

Next was Cersei & Jaime in the room with their dead son, Joffrey.

It was slightly different from the book in both of those instances but not as different as many other scenes were.

By modern western feminist standards, both scenes would be rape even in the book though.

In the books; Daenerys cried before having sex and did not even want to be married to Drogo. Like in the books; in the show Daenerys was never happy with sex until she crawled on top.

The biggest difference between the books and show in the "sex on Joffrey's funeral" is that in the book this was when Jaime had just returned home from being a prisoner rather than in the show where he'd been home for a while and even at the wedding (which he wasn't in the books). In the book Cersei resisted and told him "no" up until he laid her out and started doing it to her. Then she gave in.


Regardless, let's not act like slave-rape isn't a common occurrence in the books. When people talk about how filthy and porno-like the show is, I tell them it's nothing compared to the books.