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  1. #511
    Quote Originally Posted by Son_of_Liberty90 View Post
    For those that have watched all episodes: what's your overall take on the show? I stopped watching at the end of Season 2. I thought the seasons had too much filler/padding, and were too grim i.e. mostly all of the characters were losers or overly corrupt, message of the show was "Evil/corruption always wins, don't bother trying to better the world." Only characters I liked were Jon Snow, Arya, and Tyrion. I really liked Ned Stark too, but he was way too naive.
    I don't watch the show but from the news stories I see I'd say your assessment of the message is correct: "Evil/corruption always wins, don't bother trying to better the world."
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  3. #512
    They may have won the “lamest final season” of a major show ever.

    This was genius in comparison:

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  5. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by Son_of_Liberty90 View Post
    For those that have watched all episodes: what's your overall take on the show? I stopped watching at the end of Season 2. I thought the seasons had too much filler/padding, and were too grim i.e. mostly all of the characters were losers or overly corrupt, message of the show was "Evil/corruption always wins, don't bother trying to better the world." Only characters I liked were Jon Snow, Arya, and Tyrion. I really liked Ned Stark too, but he was way too naive.
    There's actually quite a strong anti-war message, or at least there was before the writers butchered the White Walker storyline.

    From what I know, George RR Martin is your usual mid-20th Century liberal, but I actually think the series has a rather reactionary undercurrent; and I'm using that term affectionately, not the way leftists use it.

    Institutions experience entropy and degrade over time, and that's illustrated throughout the world:

    The Seven Kingdoms used to be independent, but were conquered by the Targaryen dynasty
    The Targaryens ruled for centuries, but were eventually usurped due to a crazed king
    The Night's Watch were once the protectors of all men, but have fallen into disrepute as a useless group of bastards and former criminals

    Civilizational entropy is all around the world of Westeros, and that's an idea that liberalism has never actually reckoned with.

    I don't think the message is evil always wins. The theme is more that virtue is unrewarded in a political system, in favor of machinations and cunning. This is pretty obviously true, regardless of the system. The truly pure evil lose, as frequently as the good do, due to a lack of foresight.
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  6. #514
    Over 1 Million Viewers Urge Remake Of Game Of Thrones Final Season "With Competent Writers"

    And Disney is still insisting that they will let these bozos handle the next Star Wars movie.
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  7. #515
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  8. #516
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  9. #517
    The showrunners of Game of Thrones stated during the series finale that they are going to be hiding in a undisclosed area getting very drunk and far away from the internet. In other words, no accountability whatsoever.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

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  10. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Over 1 Million Viewers Urge Remake Of Game Of Thrones Final Season "With Competent Writers"

    And Disney is still insisting that they will let these bozos handle the next Star Wars movie.
    First thing DW said to me at the conclusion of GOT, well that certainly doesn't bode well for the new Star Wars series.

  11. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    There's actually quite a strong anti-war message, or at least there was before the writers butchered the White Walker storyline.

    From what I know, George RR Martin is your usual mid-20th Century liberal, but I actually think the series has a rather reactionary undercurrent; and I'm using that term affectionately, not the way leftists use it.

    Institutions experience entropy and degrade over time, and that's illustrated throughout the world:

    The Seven Kingdoms used to be independent, but were conquered by the Targaryen dynasty
    The Targaryens ruled for centuries, but were eventually usurped due to a crazed king
    The Night's Watch were once the protectors of all men, but have fallen into disrepute as a useless group of bastards and former criminals

    Civilizational entropy is all around the world of Westeros, and that's an idea that liberalism has never actually reckoned with.

    I don't think the message is evil always wins. The theme is more that virtue is unrewarded in a political system, in favor of machinations and cunning. This is pretty obviously true, regardless of the system. The truly pure evil lose, as frequently as the good do, due to a lack of foresight.
    So does GOT explore further in depth this idea of civilization entropy, or is it just established based on the timeline you gave? (e.g. were conquered by the Targaryen dynasty, The Targaryens ruled for centuries, but were eventually usurped due to a crazed king). Sounds like the rule was fine until the crazed monarch.

  12. #520
    It’s one thing to have an occasional character change their established behavior, another to do it to every character all at once. Likewise, there may be an occasional storyline or incident that strains credulity beyond suspension of disbelief, but it’s completely unacceptable to have all of the storiy lines become ridiculously illogical.

    Fail across the board.
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  14. #521
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They may have won the “lamest final season” of a major show ever.

    This was genius in comparison:

    I disliked that at first then realized how great it was after reconsidering.
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  15. #522
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I thought the point was to expose Daenerys as a coward and further indicate that J. Snow was meant to be king.
    Funny how it never came up again.

    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Give Grey Worm some time to contemplate why his GF was captured while his queen ran away with her dragons tail between her legs.
    Grey Worm became quite the madman himself, until suddenly in the final episode he went from War Lord to the guard that escorts Tyrion around to meetings where Tyrion dictates the future and chooses the king.

    Apparently Jon Snow confessed to everyone that he killed Daenerys, and then we are supposed to believe that Grey Worm didn’t execute both him and Tyrion immediately.

    But who knows, every detail is omitted until we have the “lords” of Westeros running the show somehow.

    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Of all the stuff you listed, Danys going tyrant bitch is the least offensive. She was always a crazy power hungry person, she just played the savior for power and selfish reasons.
    Seems like in the end Danys was relatively lucid and rational, while Sansa was the tyrant in waiting.
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  16. #523
    Reps from all of the kingdoms: “Hail Bran, King of the Seven Kingdoms”
    Sansa: “Make that six kingdoms, I’m going to be Queen of the North.”
    Others: “OK, Hail Bran, King of the Six Kingdoms!”
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  17. #524
    I thought it was strange when Bran said he was going to look for Drogon. Why would he said that when we're not even going to see the resolution to it? Even if he does get Drogon, what is he going to do with him?
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  18. #525
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Funny how it never came up again.
    yeah, I had no way of predicting such stupidity accurately.

  19. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I thought it was strange when Bran said he was going to look for Drogon. Why would he said that when we're not even going to see the resolution to it? Even if he does get Drogon, what is he going to do with him?
    It occurred to me that Bran could have taken over the mind of the dragons at any time. Interesting possibility that was never used. Maybe they are setting up the potential for a future spin-off, but based on the rest of the writing of the final season, it was probably just a throw away line.

    He could have stopped the civilian massacre.
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  20. #527
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    yeah, I had no way of predicting such stupidity accurately.
    You would think it would have come up as they made the case that she wasn’t qualified to be queen.

    I’d guess that the only reason it happened was so that Euron could win that battle and Missandei could be captured, thus setting up the next episode. Another symptom of how the writing was not fully thought out at all.
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  21. #528
    Drogon had more character development than any character this season.
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  23. #529
    Quote Originally Posted by Son_of_Liberty90 View Post
    So does GOT explore further in depth this idea of civilization entropy, or is it just established based on the timeline you gave? (e.g. were conquered by the Targaryen dynasty, The Targaryens ruled for centuries, but were eventually usurped due to a crazed king). Sounds like the rule was fine until the crazed monarch.
    That's explored much more in the book. The Targaryen rule was pretty tumultuous at times. They weren't able to conquer Dorne, who was the last kingdom to join the Realm, and they bent the knee voluntarily. In addition to just plain lousy kings, there was the Dance of Dragons where two Targaryen sibling Dragon Lords started a civil war over the Iron Throne. There was the multiple Blackfyre Rebellions where a bunch of legitimized Targaryen bastards named Blackfyre made a claim for the crown over many generations. And the Mad King who ended their rule wasn't the first crazy Targaryen. They tend toward insanity.
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  24. #530
    Was it ever said that the books and the show would have the same ending?
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  25. #531
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It occurred to me that Bran could have taken over the mind of the dragons at any time. Interesting possibility that was never used. Maybe they are setting up the potential for a future spin-off, but based on the rest of the writing of the final season, it was probably just a throw away line.

    He could have stopped the civilian massacre.
    In the books there's a prophecy of a three headed dragon, or perhaps three dragon riders. Many assume that Daenerys is one, Jon is two, and that Bran is going to Warg into a dragon to become the third/ Unfortunately we never came close to that. In fact, all of the prophecies were completely forgotten. Azor Ahai, the Lord of Light, Cersei's prophecy, the Long Night, all of it.
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  26. #532
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Was it ever said that the books and the show would have the same ending?
    It's been said that they would end at the same place, but get there through different paths. I think Bran being King and the rise of an elective monarchy is a GRRM idea, but it would be much different in his hands.
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  27. #533
    TV viewers might say goodbye to more than just "Game of Thrones" following Sunday's series finale.
    Several people plan to cancel their subscriptions to HBO now that the show is over, based on reactions through social media, and they're reminding their friends to do the same.
    "Just a friendly reminder to everyone to cancel your HBO subscription," said Twitter user @ronniedale2.
    According to a blog post from research firm Mintel, subscribers to HBO Now are twice as likely to agree they would cancel their subscriptions if a specific show or program ended. The firm also cites HBO Now's $14.99 per month price, slightly higher than competitors.
    Me once GoT is over and I cancel my HBO subscription pic.twitter.com/2GpKFJvGUr
    — Winter sucked (@Pers_ality) May 20, 2019
    ANYWAYSSSSS, let me go cancel this HBO subscription. #GameOfThrones pic.twitter.com/SrtGW9xCTq
    — Jawn Snow ���� (@PassionNTorment) May 20, 2019
    Time to cancel our HBO subscription guys ��
    — Bella (@Yo__Gabba) May 20, 2019
    Just a friendly reminder to everyone to cancel your HBO subscription ☺️☺️☺️
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  28. #534
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    That's explored much more in the book. The Targaryen rule was pretty tumultuous at times. They weren't able to conquer Dorne, who was the last kingdom to join the Realm, and they bent the knee voluntarily. In addition to just plain lousy kings, there was the Dance of Dragons where two Targaryen sibling Dragon Lords started a civil war over the Iron Throne. There was the multiple Blackfyre Rebellions where a bunch of legitimized Targaryen bastards named Blackfyre made a claim for the crown over many generations. And the Mad King who ended their rule wasn't the first crazy Targaryen. They tend toward insanity.
    And yet in the last episode, Dorne goes along, “sure we’ll bend the knee and be part of the six kingdoms while Sansa runs off to be Queen of the North”...
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  29. #535
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And yet in the last episode, Dorne goes along, “sure we’ll bend the knee and be part of the six kingdoms while Sansa runs off to be Queen of the North”...
    Not only that, but also the Iron Islands. There were many, many problems with the finale, not the least of which is the independence of the North. They completely changetheir political system, Bran (or the entity that used to be Bran) becomes king and just gives The North sovereignty under his sister. No one else had any problems with this? Did they forget that Yara Greyjoy fought for her father for his claim to be King of the Iron Islands? Why would she bend the knee now? The woman she pledged to is dead. Why would any of these lords think it's okay for the North to be its own nation, while they have to bend the knee to an elected king who claims to not even be human anymore? Just ridiculous.
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  30. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    TV viewers might say goodbye to more than just "Game of Thrones" following Sunday's series finale.
    Several people plan to cancel their subscriptions to HBO now that the show is over, based on reactions through social media, and they're reminding their friends to do the same.
    "Just a friendly reminder to everyone to cancel your HBO subscription," said Twitter user @ronniedale2.
    According to a blog post from research firm Mintel, subscribers to HBO Now are twice as likely to agree they would cancel their subscriptions if a specific show or program ended. The firm also cites HBO Now's $14.99 per month price, slightly higher than competitors.
    Me once GoT is over and I cancel my HBO subscription pic.twitter.com/2GpKFJvGUr
    — Winter sucked (@Pers_ality) May 20, 2019
    ANYWAYSSSSS, let me go cancel this HBO subscription. #GameOfThrones pic.twitter.com/SrtGW9xCTq
    — Jawn Snow ���� (@PassionNTorment) May 20, 2019
    Time to cancel our HBO subscription guys ��
    — Bella (@Yo__Gabba) May 20, 2019
    Just a friendly reminder to everyone to cancel your HBO subscription ☺️☺️☺️
    — Ronnie Bogle (@ronniedale2) May 20, 2019
    If you really are thinking about cancelling HBO, there's a detailed explainer on their website on how to drop the channel if you're going through a third-party provider.
    If you signed up directly through HBO, just visit the app, go to settings, then billing information, then cancel your subscription and follow the necessary steps.


    https://news.yahoo.com/apos-game-thr...193949862.html
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  32. #537
    Now that the series is over I'm going back and watching all the death scenes of all major characters.
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  33. #538
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Not only that, but also the Iron Islands. There were many, many problems with the finale, not the least of which is the independence of the North. They completely changetheir political system, Bran (or the entity that used to be Bran) becomes king and just gives The North sovereignty under his sister. No one else had any problems with this? Did they forget that Yara Greyjoy fought for her father for his claim to be King of the Iron Islands? Why would she bend the knee now? The woman she pledged to is dead. Why would any of these lords think it's okay for the North to be its own nation, while they have to bend the knee to an elected king who claims to not even be human anymore? Just ridiculous.
    It's OK though because they voted
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  34. #539
    Game of Thrones is white supremacy.


    Antioch Professor: ‘Game of Thrones’ Pushes ‘White Supremacy’

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/...ite-supremacy/

    TOM CICCOTTA 23 May 2019

    A professor at Antioch University in California argued this month that Game of Thrones encourages its audience to embrace white supremacy.

    Antioch University Professor Timothy Malone argued that Game of Thrones pushed a “white supremacist” message in a recent column. Malone argued in the column that “white supremacist” themes appear throughout the plot of the popular show, which recently aired its final episode.

    It is whiteness as social capital – you may be poor and at the bottom of the hierarchy, but at least you’re not Black, (or in this case, an ice zombie). That’s why they were located beyond the wall (the prison). In the show, they become deputized in the struggle against White Walkers; in reality, the device has been to turn some percentage of them into cops and prison guards with good benefits to ensure their loyalty to white supremacist capital. The key here is that the Wildings are fundamentally on the human side of the “human vs. subhuman/contaminant” binary, just relegated to the role of front-line enforcers of the order.

    Malone argues that the fictional television show encourages its multiracial audience to adopt the mindset of “white supremacy.”

    The ideological work further comes in the form of crafting identifications with a particular house: Targaryen, Lannister, Stark. With whom do you identify? Are you “team” Stark? Targaryen? Lannister? All offer different configurations of neoliberal white supremacist capital for its multicultural audience to cheer for.

    On May 18, Malone doubled down on his beliefs during an interview with Salon. In the interview, Malone argued that the modern white supremacist worldview is inspired by fantasy fiction works like Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones.

    The Nazi and other white right-wing types who are using that imagery as we saw in Charlottesville and elsewhere are not invested in the real history of medieval or ancient Europe in the first place. What they are invested in are things like “Lord of Rings” and “Game of Thrones.” These white supremacists are not scholars of European history.

    The professor has not expressed his opinion on the series finale of Game of Thrones.
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  35. #540
    Well quite frankly that author can shut his whore mouth.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

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