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    FDA:"Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing"

    Proposals to officially regulate electronic cigarettes will be announced later today by the Food and Drug Administration, according to the WSJ. The regulations would include a ban on sales to minors and a requirement for health warning labels on packaging. E-cigarettes contain nicotine liquid, which is derived from tobacco -- and that's where the FDA comes in.

    "Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing.."


    Importantly, makers would not be allowed to state that e-cigarettes are safer than other tobacco products ( manufacturers need to provide scientific evidence to prove these claims), nor use descriptive language like "light" or "mild" to describe goods. Companies will also be required to submit a "pre-market review application" within two years, although products will be allowed to stay on the market as long as the application is filed. Outlines will also restrict marketing on TV and any efforts to appeal to anyone under 18, although they won't immediately ban the wealth of flavored e-cigarettes that have recently flourished. FDA Commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told ABC News: "Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing, the products are evolving with no regulatory oversight and being marketed in ways that are very worrisome." The full list of regulations will be posted online by the FDA at 9am today.

    http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/24/f...e-regulations/
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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    "Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing.."
    People are exercising all kinds of freedom. It must be stopped.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Those ecigs need government condoms. It's for the children.
    "The Patriarch"

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    "Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing, the products are evolving with no regulatory oversight and being marketed in ways that are very worrisome."
    I was beside myself with worry.

    The full list of regulations will be posted online by the FDA at 9am today.
    Whew, I feel better now.


    $#@!s

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    Wild, wild west.........


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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Wild, wild west.........
    A person could go into the general store and purchase cocaine or tincture of opium, children could purchase weapons and ammunition, even dynamite...

    People settled matters without lawyers and courts...

    What I'd give for a return to those "horrible" days...

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    "Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing, the products are evolving with no regulatory oversight and being marketed in ways that are very worrisome."
    See I wasn't worried before, but now I'm worried knowing government is going to have oversight over this market. Anything the government has their hands on turns to crap. They are like a jinx to business ventures.
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    No freedom of any kind can be tolerated. For the children.
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    We don't need no stinking legislation, we'll just make regulations.
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    dammit, we need more safety regulations. Why don't they do something about glass containers. I cut myself the other day on a ketchup bottle i dropped, and now i have to wear this effin band-aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    dammit, we need more safety regulations. Why don't they do something about glass containers. I cut myself the other day on a ketchup bottle i dropped, and now i have to wear this effin band-aid.
    How do you know, you might have thought you cut yourself. After all ketchup looks a lot like blood. We should send you to a psychiatrist you may need some anxiety pills. <s>
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Wild, wild west.........

    Not sure what a prickly ash bitter is , but I will pass .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Not sure what a prickly ash bitter is , but I will pass .
    Toilet paper?
    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyRey View Post
    Do you think it's a coincidence that the most cherished standard of the Ron Paul campaign was a sign highlighting the word "love" inside the word "revolution"? A revolution not based on love is a revolution doomed to failure. So, at the risk of sounding corny, I just wanted to let you know that, wherever you stand on any of these hot-button issues, and even if we might have exchanged bitter words or harsh sentiments in the past, I love each and every one of you - no exceptions!

    "When goods do not cross borders, soldiers will." Frederic Bastiat

    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post
    Toilet paper?
    I always wondered what the name was for the 80 grit they issued in bootcamp.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    A person could go into the general store and purchase cocaine or tincture of opium, children could purchase weapons and ammunition, even dynamite...

    People settled matters without lawyers and courts...

    What I'd give for a return to those "horrible" days...
    Just because lawyers and courts are so disgusting today.

    But would you agree upon constitutional intent to create unity with other Americans that can enforce the constitution upon courts so lawyers are not needed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Not sure what a prickly ash bitter is , but I will pass .



    Prickly Ash Bitters was known as early as the 1880's, when a picture of Dodge City featured a signpost that had a crude sign saying "Drink Prickly Ash Bitters." This raises the question of how much alcohol was in the product, and how often it was used recreationally rather than medicinally. But then, that is true of many of the Nineteenth Century proprietary medicines.

    From The Choctaw Plaindealer, Ackerman, MS, Nov 30, 1888: "Prickly Ash Bitters. One of the most important organs of the human body is the liver. Wehn (sic) it fails to properly perform its function the entire system becomes deranged.... Dyspepsia, constipation, rheumatism, kidney disease, etc are the results unless something is done to assist Nature in throwing off the impurities caused by inaction of a torpid liver. This assistance so necessary will be found in Prickly Ash Bitters! Prickly Ash Bitters Co, St Louis, MO."

    From The Green Forest Tribune (Arkansas) Thursday December 28 1899: "Purify the sewers of the body and stimulate the digestive organs to maintain health, strength and energy. Prickly Ash Bitters is a tonic for the kidneys, liver, stomach and bowels. Sold by Harbert & Sheldon."

    One type of Prickly Ash Bitters handstamp cancel has been identified on battleship revenues.

    more: http://www.rdhinstl.com/mm/rs381yyy.htm
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    It's getting out of control folks. Pure anarchy the streets are on fire, Rome is burning, cats are mooing and cows are roaring, the madness must be stopped!!!!!


    I hate these people, is there any place were society could just please move on with out them??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    Just because lawyers and courts are so disgusting today.

    But would you agree upon constitutional intent to create unity with other Americans that can enforce the constitution upon courts so lawyers are not needed?
    Try phrasing this in layman's terms so I'm not questioning your query please..

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    Oh come on. This has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with taxation.

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    USDA, FDA, and EPA, are like the three stooges, Moe, Larry, and Curly. You can give them intelligent information to act on, but they most likely will do some thing totally stupid.

    It's common knowledge there decisions are more political than based on science, they have scientists on the payroll but ether ignore them or just don't understand basic science.

    I read one of there bee safety test they approved from Bayer, they should have been laughed off the planet for such stupidity.

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    "Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing."



    And?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post



    Prickly Ash Bitters was known as early as the 1880's, when a picture of Dodge City featured a signpost that had a crude sign saying "Drink Prickly Ash Bitters." This raises the question of how much alcohol was in the product, and how often it was used recreationally rather than medicinally. But then, that is true of many of the Nineteenth Century proprietary medicines.

    From The Choctaw Plaindealer, Ackerman, MS, Nov 30, 1888: "Prickly Ash Bitters. One of the most important organs of the human body is the liver. Wehn (sic) it fails to properly perform its function the entire system becomes deranged.... Dyspepsia, constipation, rheumatism, kidney disease, etc are the results unless something is done to assist Nature in throwing off the impurities caused by inaction of a torpid liver. This assistance so necessary will be found in Prickly Ash Bitters! Prickly Ash Bitters Co, St Louis, MO."

    From The Green Forest Tribune (Arkansas) Thursday December 28 1899: "Purify the sewers of the body and stimulate the digestive organs to maintain health, strength and energy. Prickly Ash Bitters is a tonic for the kidneys, liver, stomach and bowels. Sold by Harbert & Sheldon."

    One type of Prickly Ash Bitters handstamp cancel has been identified on battleship revenues.

    more: http://www.rdhinstl.com/mm/rs381yyy.htm
    Well , guess I better try it , what with the rhuematism and all ....

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    I bought one of these electric smokes a few moths ago .I have not tried it yet .The company I bought it from has sent me some free refills.Eat that FDA.

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    wild wild west = great for the economy and personal freedom

    sounds like a wonderful thing!
    Insanity should be defined as trusting the government to solve a problem they caused in the first place. Please do not go insane!



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    I'd take the wild wild west over what we now have any day of the week.
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    "Oh noes, people are doing things without our approval, this is madness!"
    Madness?

    Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard

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    "Right now it's like the wild, wild west in terms of what people are doing.."



    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    wild wild west?....the TV show or movie?...

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    Wonder how many intermediaries the payments from the big tobacco industry through before reaching the FDA wallets.

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    They always say that like it's a bad thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    wild wild west?....the TV show or movie?...


    I feel that way every time I go to a GOP meeting.
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