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Thread: Bob Dole: Rand Paul Doesn't Have Experience to Run in 2016

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    Bob Dole: Rand Paul Doesn't Have Experience to Run in 2016

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/bob-d...o-run-in-2016/

    Quote Originally Posted by Mediaite
    Former Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole weighed in on his party’s likely 2016 contenders recently, and concluded that some of the most talked-about names just aren’t ready yet. In a new interview with the Wichita Eagle, Dole calls out Ted Cruz and Rand Paul specifically to say they lack the experience to run in 2016.



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    right, he hasn't come in "second" on a past primary cycle. That's how "they" get the experience (and then proceed to lose...)
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

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    Bob Dole was a great president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    Bob Dole was a great president.
    Bob Dole should totally be lecturing others on electability.

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    Bob Dole likes to hear Bob Dole say Bob Dole.

    Bob Dole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    Bob Dole was a great president.
    Well, let's not forget that he probably learned a lot. I mean, that uppity inexperienced Obama fellow never stood a chance against the impressive, experienced line up of the GOP.

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    An over ripe man, living off the government Dole.
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    Rand Paul Fires Back at Dole: Sometimes Lack of D.C. Experience Can Be Good

    Bob Dole recently said that likely 2016 contenders Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and “extreme right-wing” Ted Cruz lack the experience to be able to run for president in two years. Paul did not call out Dole, but in Chicago Tuesday he indirectly responded to the former Republican presidential candidate, saying that sometimes a lack of Washington experience can be a good thing.
    He said when people are stuck in Washington too long, they become “career politicians” who get “beaten down by the system and are so part of the system that they can’t see all the problems of the system.” Paul made it clear he never joined the Republican chorus of criticisms in 2008 that Barack Obama was too inexperienced to be president, because he thinks there’s something too be said for a fresh perspective in Washington.
    “Maybe you can have too much (experience as well) in the sense that I think that over long periods of time, people lose their zeal for change in Washington and they become part of the system.”
    And whatever else you could say about him, it’s hard to mistake Rand Paul for someone who’s become part of the system. So far.



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    Establishment must be desperate if they are dragging Dole out of mothballs to do a hatchet job.

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    Ya Bob Dole probably thinks you have to be old enough to do viagra commercials.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Ahh, Bob Dole, the Senator from ADM

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    I'm shocked that the guy who got his turn in the GOP spotlight just by being the next "old guy in line" thinks this way.

    Dole is stuck in the past. That just isn't the way a viable party can run now.

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    Sure, you can argue that Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and Scott Walker have less political experience than Obama had when he ran for President. I see those arguments. They don't mean much too me, especially since Paul and Bush grew up in political families. Romney even had a politician for a father.

    The truth is, everyone cannot be a career politician. Some people want to do more useful and helpful things with their lives.
    Lifetime member of more than 1 national gun organization and the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance. Part of Young Americans for Liberty and Campaign for Liberty. Free State Project participant and multi-year Free Talk Live AMPlifier.

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    Bob Dole saw Obama win with exactly the same amount of experience Rand Paul has now and Bob Dole's telling Republicans that they shouldn't nominate someone with the exact same blend of experience and outsider status that won? Bob Dole doesn't want the Republicans to win the White House. Bob Dole didn't want the GOP to win it from Clinton in '96 because if Bob Dole did Bob Dole would have refused the nomination. And Bob Dole obviously doesn't want the Republicans to win now or Bob Dole wouldn't be telling Republicans not to do what is proven to work right now.

    Bob Dole had shut Bob Dole's mouth for nearly twenty years, and I think I liked Bob Dole better that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Bob Dole saw Obama win with exactly the same amount of experience Rand Paul has now?
    Do you mean national political experience or something? Obama was in the IL State Senate for 3 terms.
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    Sure, as a junior senator, Paul may not have certain levels of experience, but this was the same line that the GOP trotted out when Obama ran for office. And now he's in his second term.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    Do you mean national political experience or something? Obama was in the IL State Senate for 3 terms.
    You have a point. If Obama had been a doctor helping people instead of hanging in Springfield making Illinoisians miserable he might have had enough sense to drop Obamacare. So, no, Rand Paul can't claim experience equal to Obama's. Paul's is a damned sight more useful to the task.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    As much as I want to detest Dole, I can't.
    Not for the usual war-hero stuff... it's because in a primary debate in 1996 I heard him read the 10th Amendment on national TV.

    It was the first time I'd ever heard a politician talk about the constitution in an antifederalist sense.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    I actually thought Bob Dole was dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Well, this settles that.
    "I am commonly opposed to those who modestly assume the rank of champions of liberty, and make a very patriotic noise about the people. It is the stale artifice which has duped the world a thousand times, and yet, though detected, it is still successful."

    --Fisher Ames (1789)

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    Yea but Romney was super experienced...
    It's just an opinion... man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mit26chell View Post
    I actually thought Bob Dole was dead.
    I did too. That was my first thought "Isn't he dead?" That should show how relevant he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mit26chell View Post
    I actually thought Bob Dole was dead.
    Bob Dole will never die. Bob Dole was immortalized...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    What I think about Bob Dole.


    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    Sure, you can argue that Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and Scott Walker have less political experience than Obama had when he ran for President.
    I guess you're counting Obama's Illinois state positions. Fair enough.

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    I'd rather my "representatives" have less experience being dirty politicians; better chance they don't know how to screw their constituents to the max yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Bob Dole will never die. Bob Dole was immortalized...
    "WE ARE MERELY EXCHANGING LONG PROTEIN STRINGS. IF YOU CAN THINK OF A SIMPLER WAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT."
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneButPaul View Post
    Yea but Romney was super experienced...
    So was McCain. Dubya had no foreign policy experience..obviously.

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