Maybe it doesn't, if your doing it right.Originally Posted by 2young2vote
So like I said, "I would imagine the fee they pay for Burning Man depends on the amount of upkeep.".
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I know at least four burners enough and know all of them would side with Bundy. I know way more burner types (they go to similar festivals but maybe not burning man) and it would be mixed but definitely a lot more support than the general population.
Last edited by dannno; 04-22-2014 at 11:38 PM.
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"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
People don't use money at burning man, it's a gift and trade economy.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
What makes you think they leave any of their stuff out in the desert?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
They take it with them.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
BLM shows up... just have this guy aka 'Security', tell them to "Just Walk Away..."
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Anarchy in support of government owned land. That's like $#@!ing for virginity.
touché,love it!!!
2016 gop est business as usual, rules do not apply.
You're absolutely correct. I've been to Burning Man, and I'd love to go back. I totally side with Bundy. Burning Man is a lot more diverse than the media (or some people here) give it credit for. Until you've gone (or like you, know someone who's gone) - you really shouldn't believe the stereotypes of the people that go.
If these folks thought it through to the logical conclusion, they would see what they are saying sarcastically is truth, and the irony of what fr33 mentioned above.
Let's move forward to the Constitution.. I am the new GOP. I stand with Rand.
Wonder what the Bundy's could barter for then?
Sounds like any other large gathering of people these days.As the population of Black Rock City grew, further rules were established in relation to its survival. Some critics of the event cite the addition of these rules as impinging on the original freedoms, altering the experience unacceptably, while others find the increased level of activity more than balances out the changes.
A ban on guns.
A grid street structure.[16]
A speed limit of 5 mph (8 km/h).[17]
A ban on driving, except for approved "mutant vehicles" and service vehicles.[18]
Safety standards on mutant vehicles.[17]
Burning your own art must be done on an approved burn platform.[19]
A ban on fireworks.[20]
A ban on dogs.[21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man
A big $#@!ing rules fest.
Not interested.
Last edited by Anti Federalist; 04-23-2014 at 07:43 AM.
Note: the Rainbow Gathering, which is probably more authentic hippie than Burning Man, stages events on Federal land and does not pay fees. They avoid having any kind of organizational structure that can be held accountable. A consensus on where to have the gathering "emerges" and people just show up. Things like food, water, sanitation, and clean up emerge organically through volunteer action. The Fedcoats have nobody to hold responsible for a permit. :-)
The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.
"Who would be free, themselves must strike the blow." - Byron
"Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe." - Milton
No guns or dogs ? wtf ??
Deliberately and intentionally insulting.
No, thank you.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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Looks like the media failed to fact check on this one.
https://www.facebook.com/BurningMan
For the record, the Burning Man organization has absolutely no involvement whatsoever with the so-called #BundyFest or its supposed organizer Sean Shealy.
Yet this Bundyfest jackass posted this prior to the above message which is probably why the media reported it wrong.https://www.facebook.com/www.bundyfest.org
MESSAGE TO JOURNALISTS: Thank you so much for your interest in BundyFest!
A quick point of correction: I am NOT 'the organizer of Burning Man.' Some outlet announced that late last night, and several others have erroneously run with it (gotta love the internet).
...
I have in fact never BEEN to Burning Man (although I'd like to go -- maybe this year )
Know thy enemy, however word of warning, the Bundyfest FB comments are pretty over the top pro-government and anti-liberty.https://www.facebook.com/www.bundyfest.org
For years, we paid permitting fees to hold Burning Man on the beautiful Playa in Northern Nevada. But now, Cliven Bundy has shown....
Ya you probably would have fit right in about 12 years or so ago.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Hopefully, one of them steps on a tortoise and they feel the wrath of an already emasculated and frustrated BLM. Of course, for all we know Bundyfest could be an entirely FedGov operation. They love to put on faux demonstrations of public support.
What really pisses me off is the media seems to have made this guy and possibly this event. Sounds like he was just some clown on FB that falsely claimed he was connected with Burning Man and the media ran with it.
The US media has been really over the top lately publishing blatantly false stories to benefit the Obama admin, authoritarianism and big government ideology. Whats next.
Last edited by kahless; 04-23-2014 at 12:30 PM.
Yes I've been to one of those, it was on private land tho. Very awesome. There are several other similar types of groups as well not to mention organized festivals with central coordinators (Do Lab comes to mind), but ya the centrally organized ones tend to be more successful on private land.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never been to one but have considered it.
The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.
"Who would be free, themselves must strike the blow." - Byron
"Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe." - Milton
effin hippies
"The Patriarch"
why don't we plan one?
it would be a great place for a Libertyfest.
and we do need to show support. this might be a golden opportunity.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.
Not to offend anyone , but no weapons or dogs is just Secret code for a big, naked, gay, socialist , sausage fest. No thanks. I do not like socialists that much , LOL
I agree, the "largest penis" competition with prizes is also a dead give away.
Interesting how you chose to single out "socialist" as the deal-breaker.
Last edited by otherone; 04-24-2014 at 10:51 AM.
All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
-Albert Camus
There is a BundyFest being held though, right?
An Urgent Plea to Cliven Bundy
http://www.strike-the-root.com/urgen...o-cliven-bundy
Mr. Bundy,
You have given the country a rare opportunity, sir. Until very recently, the issue that drew both the ire of statists and the camaraderie of American patriots was your land dispute with the federal government. They were central questions that were asked at the dawn of our Republic, and needed a much deserved reminder: “How much power does the government have?” And: “What exactly constitutes a property-holder?” For 20 years, you have bravely answered this, defying the Bureau of Land Management and telling them that the land belongs to the People, specifically those who toil and live on it. As a note as to my own stance on the matter, I believe it to be indefectibly American anytime one single person can upset everybody on the political spectrum – from the predictably hysterical liberal Talking Heads on MSNBC and CNN, to Fox’s lineup of Neoconservatives, including Bill Kristol, Tucker Carlson, and Glenn Beck. You know as well as I that those on the “Establishment Right” care as much about your plight as the average Democrip (Jesse Ventura’s new terminology for our “elected” officials) operative. It’s a damn fine thing to witness them all shriek in unity. Well done!
[...]
As you might have heard by now, the event has gone mainstream. Scheduled to kick off on September 5th, and run into October, Shealy promises that it’s going to be anarchic – “TOTAL FREEDOM,” as the headline of the page reads– with live music playing all day and night, lots of nudity, beer, weed, and perhaps even a few guns. As Mr. Hadaller told me, if it “takes something like ‘BundyFest!” to trick people into talking with each other and maybe within all that crap, threats, name-calling, etc., maybe there will be two people from different political views who find out that they have a few things in common.” He also makes an interesting point in saying that the land that you own is not the land in which you graze your cattle on. And yet, he would love to see the day that all property tax is abolished. Just like that, two people with vastly different perspectives can seemingly agree to disagree for yet another time and place. “The idea is to be inclusive, not exclusive,” as he says. Good. Yet I have my doubts that any of the tough guys on their thread will actually be there in person, and then would not be concerned for the safety of your family. After all, voting once or twice a year in your own neighborhood is much easier than actually having to travel somewhere in order to make a dispute directly; why steal from someone when you can vote for a politician who will do it for you?
This is where you and your supporters come in. You have given press conference after press conference, interview after interview, attempting to clarify your thoughts and to speak to the American people. You even went so far as to call this a “movement.” What terminology! Surely you have perked more ears than just mine with that remark. Shall we be more direct than this? Can you come to embrace a new Woodstock right in your backyard? Shealy has said that he will respect your property boundaries. Can we all, then, just get along? Maybe figure out this little bit about taxation and property rights and who constitutes an actual welfare moocher? Perhaps eat some steak, drink some beer, and fight the Feds together? It would be wonderful.
I hope you consider, and I hope to meet you come September.
Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
--Albert J. Nock
I doubt it, I think the whole thing was a joke by some guy who has never even been to burning man (not that I have either but just sayin)
I don't think it had any real traction to turn in to anything tho.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I hate festivals. I really don't even like people that much.
From their facebook feed:
I wonder. The FedBook page is still active:
https://www.facebook.com/events/6881...203/?ref=br_tf
LOL. I'm with Buk:
Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
--Albert J. Nock
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