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    This thread is intended to be a running reference list of those who advocate the neoconservative foreign policy agenda, including politicians, those in the media, and those at think-tanks and other organizations.

    Quick definitions for use in this thread:

    [*] - True neoconservatives: Someone who believes in a large, powerful, central government, especially when related to foreign policy. They will not really care about size and scope of government, taxes or spending. They probably (albeit sometimes secretly) support Common Core (Federal eduction control), Obamacare and Amnesty. They probably don't really care about the Second Amendment or the rest of the Bill of Rights. They may go with international standards rather than US Constitutional standards. If old enough, they very well may have been a former leftist-communist.

    Their foreign policy will be very aggressive in most situations. They will believe in nation-building, nation changing and global manipulation. They will be particularly obsessed with anything related to Israel, Iran or Russia. Some of that obsession with Russia may stem from old communist ties and Stalin's betrayal of the international communist movement. The importance of spending for military contractors far outweighs any concerns about fiscal conservatism or spending. The military spending agenda results in a high amount of agenda overlap with advocates and lobbyists for the crony corporatist special interests generally referred to as the Military-Industrial complex by President Dwight D. Eisenhower.


    [*]- Neoconservative on foreign policy: Fellow travelers with neoconservatives on some issues related to foreign policy. They may not align with neoconservatives on any other issues at all. Many average people in this category are unaware of the neoconservative agenda, but have been led into this position over the years. Often hard to distinguish from lobbyists for the Military-Industrial complex. This can include people who lean Tea Party (Teocon) or are pure establishment.


    True neoconservatives:


    - Elliot Abrams (Rubio, Cruz adviser)
    - Sheldon Adelson (Billionaire donor, Rubio backer)
    - Sen. Kelly Ayotte
    - Gary Bauer
    - Cofer Black (Romney adviser)
    - Brad Blakeman
    - John Bolton (Cruz adviser)
    - Max Boot (McCain, Romney, Rubio adviser)
    - Norman Braman (Billionaire donor, Rubio backer)
    - Peter Brookes
    - David Brooks
    - Jeb Bush
    - Rep. Eric Cantor
    - Dick Cheney
    - Liz Cheney
    - Michael Chertoff (John Hay Initiative, Jeb adviser)
    - Eliot Cohen (John Hay Initiative)
    - Cesar Conda (Cheney, Rubio, Ryan adviser)
    - Sen. Tom Cotton
    - Eric Edelman (John Hay Initiative, Cheney, Romney, Rubio adviser)
    - Douglas Feith (Bush, Perry adviser)
    - Jamie Fly (Rubio adviser)
    - David Frum
    - Brigitte Gabriel
    - Newt Gingrich
    - Rudy Giuliani
    - Michael Goldfarb (McCain, Liz Cheney, Palin adviser)
    - Sen. Lindsey Graham
    - Stephen Hadley (Jeb adviser)
    - Pastor John Hagee
    - John Hannah (Jeb adviser)
    - Sean Hannity (Teocon)
    - Jane Harmon
    - Michael Hayden (John Hay Initiative, Jeb adviser)
    - Stephen Hayes
    - Charles Hill (Giuliani adviser)
    - John Hinderaker
    - James Jeffrey
    - Robert Joseph (Romney adviser)
    - Frederick Kagan
    - Robert Kagan (Hillary Clinton, Romney, Rubio adviser)
    - Rep. Peter King
    - Rep. Adam Kinzinger
    - James Kirchick
    - Sen. Mark Kirk
    - Henry Kissinger (McCain, Christie, Cruz adviser)
    - David J. Kramer (John Hay Initiative, Walker adviser)
    - Charles Krauthammer
    - Bill Kristol (Ryan, Jindal, Rubio adviser)
    - Eli Lake
    - John Lehman (McCain, Romney adviser)
    - Yuval Levin (Ryan, Rubio adviser)
    - Sen. Joe Lieberman
    - William Luti (Perry adviser)
    - Sen. John McCain
    - Andrew McCarthy (Perry adviser)
    - Sen. Robert Menendez
    - Joshua Muravchik
    - Victoria Nuland (Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton adviser, spouse of Robert Kagan)
    - Rep. Devin Nunes
    - Richard Perle
    - James Pethokoukis
    - Daniel Pipes
    - Danielle Pletka
    - John Podhoretz
    - Norman Podhoretz (Giuliani adviser)
    - Noah Pollak
    - Rick Reed (Lindsey Graham, McCain operative)
    - Condoleezza Rice (Christie, Cruz adviser)
    - Mike Rogers
    - Mitt Romney
    - Steven J. Rosen (Giuliani adviser)
    - Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
    - Karl Rove
    - Jennifer Rubin
    - Michael Rubin
    - Sen. Marco Rubio
    - Donald Rumsfeld
    - Haim Saban (Hillary Clinton adviser, Billionaire donor)
    - Mark Salter (McCain, Kirkpatrick adviser)
    - Sen. Chuck Schumer
    - Mel Sembler (Billionaire Jeb donor. Bush, Romney adviser)
    - Dan Senor (Romney, Ryan adviser)
    - Paul Singer (Billionaire donor, Rubio backer)
    - Michael Singh
    - Randy Scheunemann (McCain, Rumsfeld, Palin adviser)
    - Gary Schmitt
    - Bret Stevens
    - Chad Sweet (Cruz adviser)
    - Marc Thiessen
    - Jesse Watters
    - Kenneth Weinstein
    - Michael Weiss
    - Paul Wolfowitz (John Hay Initiative, Jeb adviser)
    - James Woolsey (Cruz adviser)
    - David Wurmser
    - Stephen Yates
    - John Yoo
    - Roger Zakheim (John Hay Initiative, Rubio adviser)



    Neoconservative organizations and media outlets:

    - Alliance for Securing Democracy
    - Alliance for a Strong America (Dick and Liz Cheney)
    - American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (Advises Rubio)
    - Center for American Freedom
    - Committee on the Present Danger
    - Emergency Committee for Israel
    - Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI)
    - Foundation for a Secure and Prosperous America (Rick Reed, McCain, Lindsey Graham)
    - Foundation for Defense of Democracies
    - Hudson Institute (Kenneth Weinstein)
    - John Hay Initiative (Advises Romney, Jeb, Fiorina, Christie, Rubio, Walker, Perry, Cruz, Graham)
    - Keep America Safe
    - Project for the New American Century (PNAC)
    - Republican Jewish Coalition (Funded by Sheldon Adelson)
    - Republican Main Street Partnership
    - Washington Free Beacon
    - Washington Institute for Near East Policy
    - Washington Post (Jennifer Rubin, Michael Gerson, Fred Hiatt, Jackson Diehl, Marc Thiessen)
    - Weekly Standard


    Neoconservative oriented political shows:

    - Journal Editorial Report with Paul Gigot (Fox News)
    - Meet The Press (NBC)
    - Special Report with Bret Baier (Fox News)
    - The John Batchelor Show (ABC Radio)
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 11-11-2017 at 10:30 AM.
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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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    I'd suggest including concise instances of neo-conservatism by all who qualify, for the sake of evidence and comprehension.
    Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard

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    Is that prick Kissinger still kicking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Is that prick Kissinger still kicking?
    Don't think he is really functional anymore.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Don't think he is really functional anymore.
    No matter the age, never turn your back on a crafty bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Is that prick Kissinger still kicking?
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Don't think he is really functional anymore.
    I'll revise that and add him as Dr. Evil is still spewing his "advise"...
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 02-18-2015 at 05:50 PM.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Is that prick Kissinger still kicking?
    It seems that he is advising Chris Christie...

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie:

    Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of State
    Henry Kissinger, former Secretary of State
    Richard N. Haass, president, Council on Foreign Relations
    Robert E. Grady, venture capitalist and former White House associate budget director

    https://news.yahoo.com/brain-trusts-...185300373.html
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Is that prick Kissinger still kicking?
    Not that I follow these things too closely, but I did notice he was on the Bilderberg list this year.

    The "other" list from Zero Hedge: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...lete-2014-list

    USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
    "We live in an age where things change rather rapidly, whether politically or economically and certainly in foreign policy things change, so this whole ball game can change rather rapidly.” ― Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabal View Post
    I'd suggest including concise instances of neo-conservatism by all who qualify, for the sake of evidence and comprehension.
    Most names have a link embedded. Some, like McCain and Graham, should need no added description. Trying to keep it simple and stick with hardcore neoconservatives for now.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Most names have a link embedded. Some, like McCain and Graham, should need no added description. Trying to keep it simple and stick with hardcore neoconservatives for now.
    Presume nothing. If you want this list to serve an actual informative purpose, and be useful beyond superficial reference for those who are already aware, and already agree with it, there's going to need to be a standard for qualification. This list is going to largely be ambiguous and arbitrary so long as supporting evidence and citations that conform to a defined standard are not included.

    And yes, that's going to take some time effort, but most things of value tend to require such. Luckily we have a forum of active users here who may be willing to research and contribute. I'd suggest creating a template for citation that people here can freely copy/paste to provide instances of 'proof of neo-conism.' They can then post their citations in this thread, where they can be verified, and the OP can be updated accordingly.

    I recognize that McCain is a neo-con, and I can cite examples off the top of my head that supports this assertion; I'm sure you can, too. But there are still people out there that do not recognize him and others as such, and if they were to stumble upon this thread and see this list with no real explanation about the names on it, why should they take it with anything more than a grain of salt? I'd be inclined to disregard it were I such a person. So, that begs the question, what is the purpose? To reaffirm our own opinions and judgments that are already held? Or to be informative to those who may not already be aware, or have contrary opinions?

    This has the potential to become a fairly valuable resource for effectively shaming the 'old guard' and RINOs, as it were; and it doesn't necessarily have to begin and end with neo-cons either.

    //2 pennies
    Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabal View Post
    Presume nothing. If you want this list to serve an actual informative purpose, and be useful beyond superficial reference for those who are already aware, and already agree with it, there's going to need to be a standard for qualification. This list is going to largely be ambiguous and arbitrary so long as supporting evidence and citations that conform to a defined standard are not included.

    And yes, that's going to take some time effort, but most things of value tend to require such. Luckily we have a forum of active users here who may be willing to research and contribute. I'd suggest creating a template for citation that people here can freely copy/paste to provide instances of 'proof of neo-conism.' They can then post their citations in this thread, where they can be verified, and the OP can be updated accordingly.

    I recognize that McCain is a neo-con, and I can cite examples off the top of my head that supports this assertion; I'm sure you can, too. But there are still people out there that do not recognize him and others as such, and if they were to stumble upon this thread and see this list with no real explanation about the names on it, why should they take it with anything more than a grain of salt? I'd be inclined to disregard it were I such a person. So, that begs the question, what is the purpose? To reaffirm our own opinions and judgments that are already held? Or to be informative to those who may not already be aware, or have contrary opinions?

    This has the potential to become a fairly valuable resource for effectively shaming the 'old guard' and RINOs, as it were; and it doesn't necessarily have to begin and end with neo-cons either.

    //2 pennies
    I'll eventually add a link to every name. But that is only one link. What I was thinking is that more information could be put into an individual post in this thread, and the name could link to that post. What kind of template did you have in mind?

    You may not have noticed, but a website linked in the OP has done a lot of this work already. They have a very long list, with an article on each person. Of course we can always create a more conservative and liberty centric informational post right here.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    I think Senators Schumer and Kirk deserve a spot on this list.

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    Barak Obama

    I love pissing off progressives when I call him a neocon and then ask then to differentiate B.O. and W. Bush on the finer points.
    Last edited by RJB; 07-02-2014 at 06:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Barak Obama

    I love pissing off progressives when I call him a neocon and then ask then to differentiate W. and Bush on the finer points.
    Let me guess: they will say Obama "inherited" the situation from the Evil Bush, and in 6 years hasn't been able to figure out how to end it.

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    You can add Chertoff to the list, as well as Rumsfeld and Rice.
    Oligarchy delenda est

    “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” - Samuel Adams

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    Also, I dare say Hillary may fall into the neo camp as squarely as any. The description reads like her politics, exactly.
    Oligarchy delenda est

    “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” - Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Barak Obama

    I love pissing off progressives when I call him a neocon and then ask then to differentiate W. and Bush on the finer points.
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Also, I dare say Hillary may fall into the neo camp as squarely as any. The description reads like her politics, exactly.
    There's so much overlap, isn't there? It goes without saying that RINOs (GOP neoconservatives) and Democrats take a lot of the same positions, and even more often, the same actions. And then there is also a lot of overlap with what could be called "the establishment", the Plutocracy or the Oligarchy, which knows no Democrat or GOP Party boundaries.

    Part of it may be the shared history among some of them, being intellectual descendents of one kind or another of Marx. The Democrats and other socialists didn't end up with the same level of animosity towards Russia that the neoconservatives (many early ones being former followers of Leon Trotsky) developed. Trotsky was assassinated by Stalin, so Trotsky's followers were particularly mad at Stalin and Russia.

    That's all ancient history at this point, and mostly important to the hardcore, true neoconservatives (the think-tank types like Bill Kristol).

    Suffice it to say that Obama and Hillary are modern, global socialists. They love big, powerful, central government (even a bit more than neoconservatives), and they also love meddling and manipulating other nations (perhaps with slightly less venom and vigor than neoconservatives). In the end, the actions are nearly identical, with minor variations in focus and justifications. Obama and Hillary have no problems wasting money on killing people and causing mayhem around the globe. And they are more than willing to defer to international law and standards instead of the Constitution. Perhaps they would be best categorized as "global, iron-fisted, socialist Utopians". Orwell's 1984 was a model, not a warning to them.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 05-13-2014 at 12:26 PM. Reason: fixed typo
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    There's so much overlap, isn't there? It goes without saying that RINOs (GOP neoconservatives) and Democrats take a lot of the same positions, and even more often, the same actions. And then there is also a lot of overlap of with what could be called "the establishment", the Plutocracy or the Oligarchy, which knows no Democrat or GOP Party boundaries.
    If a Neoconservative and a Democrat both have their necks within a noose and fall at precisely the same time, which one's neck will snap first? I don't know the answer, but there's only one way to find out.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    The reason we have an evil, immoral empire is that it is populated by evil, immoral peons. The State isn't a faceless monster...it is composed of all our petty, ignorant, self-righteous and self-absorbed neighbors.

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    This list needs more neo-libs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin69 View Post
    This list needs more neo-libs
    Have any specific examples, with links?
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


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    All Rockefellers
    Larry Summers
    Harry Reid
    Robert Rubin
    Dick Durbin
    Joe Biden
    Barrack Obama
    Ted Cruz
    John Boehner
    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz
    Ben Bernanke
    Janet Yellen
    Eric Rosengren
    Kevin Warsh
    William Dudley
    Richard Fisher
    Sandra Pianalto
    Charles Plosser
    Jerome Powell
    Jeremy Stein
    Daniel Tarullo
    Charles Evans
    Jeffrey Lacker
    Dennis Lockhart
    John Williams
    Christine Cumming

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2 View Post
    All Rockefellers
    By Rockefellers, do you essentially mean a group with a lot of overlap with the establishment?
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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


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    The only difference between "neocon" and "globalist-socialist" seems to be the emphasis; policy wise they are identical twins!
    Oligarchy delenda est

    “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” - Samuel Adams

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    Persons associated with PNAC (Project for New American Century)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...ject_directors

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    Persons associated with PNAC (Project for New American Century)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...ject_directors
    Yep, always a good source. Quite a few from the starter list come from there. And they haven't been able to fully scrub Jeb Bush from there (yet). Almost every reference to Jeb and PNAC has been scrubbed from the internet (expect for the list you referenced on Wikipedia). If you have an additional link for his involvement, that would be interesting.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    Persons associated with PNAC (Project for New American Century)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...ject_directors
    And if you want to stay up to date, you need to also look at PNACs new name, The Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI).

    Board of Directors

    William Kristol
    Robert Kagan
    Dan Senor
    Eric Edelman
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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


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    We might as well make a list of republican senators, congressman and governors that aren't neo-cons, it will be a lot shorter.

    Rand Paul
    Thomas Massie
    Justin Amash
    Walter Jones
    A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both

    Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by dillo View Post
    We might as well make a list of republican senators, congressman and governors that aren't neo-cons, it will be a lot shorter.

    Rand Paul
    Thomas Massie
    Justin Amash
    Walter Jones
    John Duncan?
    Last edited by Tywysog Cymru; 04-22-2014 at 02:59 PM.
    Castle/Bradley 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    John Duncan?
    Definitely. He is on the RPI board too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dillo View Post
    We might as well make a list of republican senators, congressman and governors that aren't neo-cons, it will be a lot shorter.
    Probably best not to mix a list of the "good" guys with the "bad" guys.
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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


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