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This is hogwash.
Today's immigrants are assimilating faster than their predecessors. Hispanics are adopting English at a faster rate than Germans (the largest ancestry group in the US) and it isn't difficult to realize it is because the United States has become increasingly more efficient at assimilating newcomers. The reason why a large portion of today's migrants come illegally is because they do not have a viable method to do so legally. Prior immigrants were no more noble or law abiding than present immigrants, immigration laws were simply so lax that there was no need to come illegally.
Consider drug laws. In its early history the United States had lax or non-existent drug laws. Should we consider the large numbers of Americans in jails today a sign that we are less law abiding than our ancestors? No. It is simply that new laws have arisen that have criminalized behavior that was previously considered acceptable.
The Senate immigration reform bill would not grant instant citizenship to anyone. It would put illegal aliens on a possible pathway to permanent residency, if several triggers are met. These triggers include ensuring that the border is certified as protected and includes the input of regional governments who directly border Mexico. Mind you, it is a myth that the US-Mexican border isn't secure.
Furthermore, why are libertarians of all people buying into this myth that somehow either party is better than the other? This is what is implicitly conceded when the case is made that migrants vote for Democrats and therefore statists. Both Republicans and Democrats are statist parties and things would be little better if migrants voted over whelming for the Republican Party. Migrants could be easy pickings for converting over to libertarianism; many of these are individuals who have spent their lives under statist regimes much worse than the United States and who migrate partially out of a desire for greater liberty for themselves and their children. Why aren't more migrants libertarian? Gee, it might have to do with all the hostility they get with videos like these. You cannot expect to persuade migrants of our cause if you simultaneously trying to kick them out.
There is one truth to this video, the 'cabal' is trying to divide us. It isn't trying to do so with multiculturalism. Nay, it is achieving its means by promoting the very concept that we are intrinsically different from one another by sheer virtue of place of birth. If we truly wish to defeat the 'cabal' we should do so by fighting alongside our brethren and welcoming them regardless of their ethnic background or birthplace.
Sources for your statements?
I agree.Originally Posted by Michelangelo
Suddenly immigrants are "illegals" when in the past they were simply immigrants.
The multi-cultural stuff really bugs me; America has ALWAYS been multi-cultural; every major city had a "Germantown"; French/Spanish/etc District.
The Irish were hated in the 1800's and considered Catholic scum; all the "real" Americans didn't want them here (you know, all those Americans that migrated earlier?).
As a Cherokee, I find this all rather amusing: WHAT! Different colored "immigrants" taking over our land? Not speaking our language? Breaking our laws?
The answer is simple:
- Open borders
- NO entitlements
- Get rid of minimum wage
The economy has always boomed with an influx of immigrants- but we can't have that now, can we?
There is no spoon.
How many indians wrote and signed the constitution? ZERO
How many were asked?
The Constitution was derived from the Iroquois Nation Confederacy, which was a unity of 5 separate Indian nations that had learned to live peacefully together. Benjamin Franklin had visited with them and felt that if "savage Indians" could have a document to unite and live in peace, so could the separate states.
There is no spoon.
LOL thats almost like saying that the asians wrote the bible. Good one. Keep reading that indian kool aid.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/reso...hconres331.pdf
(1) Asians did write significant portions of the Old Testament. Israel-Palestine is located on the Asian continent and the Abrahamic religions were all born in the near east. Most of the early Christian Kingdoms were in the Caucus (Armenia, Georgia, etc.) and Ethiopia. Most of the new testament was written in the Greek world. It is only recently that the Bible was officially translated into the vernacular languages of Europe such as English.
(2) Congress has conceded the Iroquois nations had influence over the US constitution. Other polities, including the Dutch Republic, had an influence on the thinking of the American founders but it is hard to deny the Iroquois did as well.
Which specific claims do you want sources for.
The claim that Hispanic migrants are assimilating faster than their earlier German counterparts is hardly controversial if you mean that. Pockets of the United States still speak a germanic dialect, i.e. Pennsylvania dutch among the Amish. Texas in particular had a large German community that did not assimilate linguistically until the post-WW2 years. None of this should be taken to mean that Hispanics are more intelligent than their German counterparts. The United States has simply become better capable of assimilating from experience with previous migrant groups.
Coincidentally you can see this by looking at the assimilation rates of migrants in the US vs. Europe. Europe has been an emigrant region for much of modern history and has little experience assimilating migrants. Therefore Europe takes longer to assimilate newcomers relative to the US.
http://www.escholarship.org/uc/item/5vn092kk
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_64.htm
Europeans were brought to this country and allowed to come here because they had something to offer, the current state of illegals do not. They are just here to mooch off the country that the anglo-saxons created.
Most of the concepts from the constitution came from Europe and Rome.
Today's migrants, illegal and legal, do have something to offer. Chiefly they provide complementary labor services that allow American labor to specialize in those areas it is best suited to. This is basic comparative advantage theory. If they had nothing to offer they wouldn't find employment, would they?
Certainly the American Constitutions owes quite a bit to Europe. However this doesn't reduce the influence the Iroquois had.
Tell me, do you identify yourself as a libertarian? I have to admit this a deeply personal issue for me and it insults me whenever someone self-identifying themselves as libertarians attacks migrants. If you are however a nationalist, a socialist, or some other breed of statist I have no reason to be as angry. Your facts may be ground, but at least you are being internally consistent. A libertarian however should never oppose migration on account of whether it 'benefits the country'. Libertarians should promote greater liberty for all irregardless of nationalist concerns.
We must defend the liberty of speech unhindered by government of all. We must defend the liberty to bear arms for all. We must defend the liberty of migration. And so forth and so forth.
Go back to Stormfront.
The epitome of libertarian populism
In the sixties the government came into the schools to tell us we would no longer be able to have children like our ancestors of the past because it was getting to crowded and there wouldn't be enough room on the roads and stuff. They unleashed birth control and abortions on us and brought our expansion to a halt.
With their other hand they subverted our immigration laws and increased legal immigration.
Also in the sixties if someone truly needed help they brought them in legally and those workers worked along side for the same wages and benefits. (Benefits for you to young to remember were things like health insurance and retirement funds so you could take care of yourself. They weren't something evil like they teach you today. Today they tell you its the wages and benefits that are hurting business all the while their stealth back door socialism is sucking the strength out of the capital, capitalism needs to operate.) Anyway the legal workers worked along side while some came in illegally and got screwed. They had to hide in the shadows and take whatever was offered.
Now we've come full circle. The criminals in the government and in business have everyone by the balls.
I remember another amnesty they said was for about a million turn into an amnesty for three. If there is another it may be for about twenty seven million. That's twenty seven million that will soon be discarded for their next influx of illegal labor.
Many of you seemed to be sucked into thinking your doing illegal aliens a favor by playing them into the hands of the criminals. It may not seem such a great thing when your sucked into the same way of life as your forced out of your own country and have to search for illegal work yourself in some foreign land.
Can't you see the central banking system is looting your countries of their natural resources and bringing in the cheapest labor they can find to profit by them. That leaves these leaches with their host countries defended by refugees.
New immigration laws make as little sense as it does to call a Constitution Convention. They aren't following the rules we have now. What makes anyone so foolish as to think they will abide by the new ones.
If they don't uphold them, they're not laws. They are lies.
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20 million out of work and we need a labor force? I have been unemployed in Los Angeles for 14 months now and I have a top 50 colleges degree.
racist
You can have 20 million unemployed and still have a need for labor. Welcome to Austrian economics. It makes for far better understanding of economic matters than Keynesian/macro outlooks.
The epitome of libertarian populism
I disagree with this - this is collectivism.
What planet are you living on?
LMAO - it's better to keep your mouth shut and everyone think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it to them.
Israel in an a little place called "Southwest Asia" and since the vast majority of biblical authors arose out of Southwest Asia, then the Bible was, indeed, written by Asians.
Also, it's a well-documented and public fact that much of the US Constitution was inspired by the Iroquois Nation Confederacy
http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
And you believe reducing migration will increase jobs? Reducing our population would decrease both supply and demand. This means that the ability of American labor to specialize would be hindered and increase the real costs of goods and services. Decreased demand obviously means that less goods and services would be demanded to begin with.
Read the literature of the economics of immigration before you go any further. I recommend David Card. He is one of the leading authorities on this issue. Obviously do a proper literature review if you have the time and resources.
http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers.html
I do repeat my question though, are you a libertarian? Because you've just lost a few more brownie points by implying you have a right to a job. If you can't find work go back to school and learn new skills. You don't need to get a new BA degree or anything like that. There are plenty of skill shortages in LA that could be met by taking a few courses as a technical school. Attacking others, especially those who don't have the ability to defend themselves such as migrants, won't help though. Channel your energy into improving yourself instead.
It all started when they let my people, the Celts and Germans in, and we contaminated the pure Anglo-Saxon blood of America. It all went downhill after that.
Stop believing stupid things
"Liberty Cabbage"
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell
Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump
You mean Anglo-Celtic.
I think I watched about two minutes of that amateurish crap. The woman is talking a mile a minute. She does not pause between thoughts. I'm actually a really fast reader, but I did not even care to read any of the graphics and text whizzing by.
Lousy editing and a poorly delivered message are not really shocking in today's Youtube and cable TV world, so no, I did not find it shocking.
I was referring to modern day asians - you know the people that live in china etc. Yes, jews wrote about half of the bible if you want to consider them to be asian but the other half were romans and they are not from asia.LMAO - it's better to keep your mouth shut and everyone think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it to them.
Israel in an a little place called "Southwest Asia" and since the vast majority of biblical authors arose out of Southwest Asia, then the Bible was, indeed, written by Asians.
Also, it's a well-documented and public fact that much of the US Constitution was inspired by the Iroquois Nation Confederacy
you can sit there and make arguments from your flyover state pulpit, but I live here in LA and seeing your country turn into a POS tijuana wannabe 3rd world country might open up your country boy eyes a little bit.
And yeah I went to college, so I do expect to get a jobby job you $#@!. Thats what college is for.
I'm an Angeleno.
USC has been doing some interesting work on the demographics of Los Angeles. You should read it maybe?
But yeah, migration isn't Los Angeles' problem.
What a profoundly absurd argument, on all fronts.
Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard
I posted on Stormfront once.
There was a thread where all were chiming in on their unanimous agreement that whites were the clearly superior race in all forms of measurement - intellectually, sexually, and culturally. Then throughout the thread, several people continued to blame the jews for keeping the white man down across the world.
I asked the logical question - if the white men are on all accounts superior, then why are they dominated by jews?
The post was never approved.
I just realized that I live in china etc.
I might have to put that as my profile location now.
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