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    Michael Reagan: Shut Up Tea Party, Your Candidates Are Kooks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Reagan
    The Tea Party zealots who haven’t learned from their mistakes in 2010 and 2012 are trying their best to screw up the GOP’s chances to win the Senate this fall.

    Where does the Tea Party find these people to run in primaries? Most important, why do they offer them up as legitimate Republican candidates?

    The Tea Party bosses have been listening to too much talk radio. They seem to think that what makes a good Republican candidate is someone who sounds like a talk radio host.

    But talk radio is all about bombast and attracting callers, not about winning elections.

    If Republicans are going to win general elections in 2014 and beyond, we’ve got to put up principled conservative candidates who sound like senators, congressmen, and governors — not kooks.



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    He has a point. Unless libertarians learn to listen and frame their message in a sane and sober way, we are going to lose. Again. Ideas and principles have to be communicated logically and well.

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    Michael Reagan doesn't fathom that some people might not care about Republicans winning elections.

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    And they might not. However, sounding like a bunch of anarchists in a nation that is constitutionally run by rule of law is not helpful to the message. Spewing hate about the military is not becoming of someone who hopes to be Commander in Chief. Scorning police does not sound like someone whose responsibility is to carry out the law.

    Frame the message in a reasonable and logical way. Show what is wrong with the system and what needs to change. Explain how that will happen. Ronald Reagan's promise to bring certain things before Congress in the first 100 days was something people heard, understood, and wanted.

    "As soon as I take the oath of office, I will ask Congress to immediately withdraw our troops from the Middle East and have them home by May 1."

    "As President, I will not authorize our troops to do anything but defend our nation and our borders."

    "Once I'm elected, I will not sign new legislation until these things have been repealed [fill in the blank] and these departments have been dismantled [fill in the blank]"

    "We will return to the Constituional requirement that Congress passes a budget every year."
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    The Tea Party bosses have been listening to too much talk radio. They seem to think that what makes a good Republican candidate is someone who sounds like a talk radio host.

    But talk radio is all about bombast and attracting callers, not about winning elections.

    "Michael Edward Reagan (born John Flaugher; March 18, 1945) is a former American radio host and author. His nationally syndicated radio show, The Michael Reagan Talk Show, aired on stations throughout the United States on the Premiere Radio Networks, before it moved to Radio America."

    I dunno.He sounds bombastic to me.
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    • Michael Reagan is a radio host
    • talk radio is all about bombast
    • bombast is high-sounding language with little meaning, used to impress people


    Why should anyone care what Michael Reagan says?
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    Say, I think we should just flip this, see it is all about image and perception. Like a marketing strategy, primetime television has accomplished such feats many times over, e.g., the pretty girls are only into the stupid, but funny, and yet handsome males; the popular kids only wear the currently stylish clothes, must own a cellphone, and have access to a vehicle; having a LGBT or “minority” friend around makes one totally cool just because; etc.

    A couple of ideas:

    Kooks and conspiracy nuts at least they are fun to talk to.
    Government studies prove that kooks are highly creative.
    7 out of 10 psychologists agree that for increased mental health you should converse with at least one kook a day.
    Market tinfoil wearing bobble-head kook figures.
    When it comes to kooks, at least you know they will be straight with you.
    Kooks, chemtrails and GMO scare them, but grassroots and Internet talk shows they love.
    Every surf the Inter-Webs with a kook?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    He has a point. Unless libertarians learn to listen and frame their message in a sane and sober way, we are going to lose. Again. Ideas and principles have to be communicated logically and well.
    This is very true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Michael Reagan doesn't fathom that some people might not care about Republicans winning elections.
    Then why are they running for office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    • Michael Reagan is a radio host
    • talk radio is all about bombast
    • bombast is high-sounding language with little meaning, used to impress people


    Why should anyone care what Michael Reagan says?
    I don't. He sounds like an $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    And they might not. However, sounding like a bunch of anarchists in a nation that is constitutionally run by rule of law is not helpful to the message. Spewing hate about the military is not becoming of someone who hopes to be Commander in Chief. Scorning police does not sound like someone whose responsibility is to carry out the law.

    Frame the message in a reasonable and logical way. Show what is wrong with the system and what needs to change. Explain how that will happen. Ronald Reagan's promise to bring certain things before Congress in the first 100 days was something people heard, understood, and wanted.

    "As soon as I take the oath of office, I will ask Congress to immediately withdraw our troops from the Middle East and have them home by May 1."

    "As President, I will not authorize our troops to do anything but defend our nation and our borders."

    "Once I'm elected, I will not sign new legislation until these things have been repealed [fill in the blank] and these departments have been dismantled [fill in the blank]"

    "We will return to the Constituional requirement that Congress passes a budget every year."
    Ah, yes- Ronald Reagan, the charismatic liar.

    And when's the last time DC actually went by the Constitution and by rule of law?
    There is no spoon.

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    So the tea party is run by libertarians?

    I don't think so. The heart of conservatism is libertarianism.-Reagan....

    As far as libertarian ideas kooky. The non aggression principle, no victim=no crime, self ownership, respect for property rights....Yea...that's just kooky. This Socialism that we have now is far better...Who needs rights...


    Rino's and democrats are on the same team. They want the same things. They are working towards the same goals.

    If you want something to be different you HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!!!

    Voting for the same thing over and over again expecting different results IS the definition of insanity. You ARE LITERALLY INSANE!

    Now...tell me how you feel about what just happened there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    I don't. He sounds like an $#@!.
    He is. The last time I listened to him (years ago) he was smugly bragging about how he exaggerated some medical problem to avoid being drafted during Vietnam. Of course he's all for the neocon wars, and probably was all for the Vietnam War too, just so long as he himself didn't have to participate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogsoldier View Post
    So the tea party is run by libertarians?

    I don't think so. The heart of conservatism is libertarianism.-Reagan....

    As far as libertarian ideas kooky. The non aggression principle, no victim=no crime, self ownership, respect for property rights....Yea...that's just kooky. This Socialism that we have now is far better...Who needs rights...


    Rino's and democrats are on the same team. They want the same things. They are working towards the same goals.

    If you want something to be different you HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!!!

    Voting for the same thing over and over again expecting different results IS the definition of insanity. You ARE LITERALLY INSANE!

    Now...tell me how you feel about what just happened there...
    I could not agree with you more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    And they might not. However, sounding like a bunch of anarchists in a nation that is constitutionally run by rule of law is not helpful to the message. Spewing hate about the military is not becoming of someone who hopes to be Commander in Chief. Scorning police does not sound like someone whose responsibility is to carry out the law.

    Frame the message in a reasonable and logical way. Show what is wrong with the system and what needs to change. Explain how that will happen. Ronald Reagan's promise to bring certain things before Congress in the first 100 days was something people heard, understood, and wanted.

    "As soon as I take the oath of office, I will ask Congress to immediately withdraw our troops from the Middle East and have them home by May 1."

    "As President, I will not authorize our troops to do anything but defend our nation and our borders."

    "Once I'm elected, I will not sign new legislation until these things have been repealed [fill in the blank] and these departments have been dismantled [fill in the blank]"

    "We will return to the Constituional requirement that Congress passes a budget every year."


    I would rather live with anarchy than tyranny. Most of the Bureaucrats don't follow the rule of law. They have disregarded the constitution long ago.

    I am a proud crazy kook who loves liberty, if that offends Sir Michael Reagan then let him move to a country where Royalty is bowed to by the peasants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    However, sounding like a bunch of anarchists in a nation that is constitutionally run by rule of law is not helpful to the message.
    Which nation is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Which nation is that?
    LOL, I was wondering the same thing.

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    "But talk radio is all about bombast and attracting callers, not about winning elections."

    Spoken like someone who knows what he's talking about. Needless to say the Reagan children aren't exactly little bundles of political success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    He has a point. Unless libertarians learn to listen and frame their message in a sane and sober way, we are going to lose. Again. Ideas and principles have to be communicated logically and well.
    so...WE have to sound and act more like establishment republicans?....huh?....wtf....yeah, great strategy. Status quo works just great eh?

    if thats whats for sale, i ain't buying...i'm past the point of going along to get along, and if that translates into electing the same ol' cowboys, then have fun beating your head on that wall. Do you hear me Collins?

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    And they might not. However, sounding like a bunch of anarchists in a nation that is constitutionally run by rule of law is not helpful to the message. Spewing hate about the military is not becoming of someone who hopes to be Commander in Chief. Scorning police does not sound like someone whose responsibility is to carry out the law.
    Satire...right?
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    How conservative Republicans can continue to support this arrogant imposter—the man who brags about inflicting the world with the Covid mark of the beast; the man who said, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”; and the man who deliberately played and then set up Stewart Rhodes (of course, Stewart was all too eager to be Trump’s patsy) for an 18-year prison sentence—is truly beyond my comprehension.” Chuck Baldwin

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    If my memory serves, Michael Reagan is a huge liberal democrat (despite being the son of President Reagan). This is the last guy we need to be taking advice or even acknowledging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    He has a point. Unless libertarians learn to listen and frame their message in a sane and sober way, we are going to lose. Again. Ideas and principles have to be communicated logically and well.
    It's not Liberty that is saying crazy stuff, it's Tea. You ever heard a Liberty person say "women don't get pregnant if it's a legitimate rape" because I sure haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    He has a point. Unless libertarians learn to listen and frame their message in a sane and sober way, we are going to lose. Again. Ideas and principles have to be communicated logically and well.
    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    And they might not. However, sounding like a bunch of anarchists in a nation that is constitutionally run by rule of law is not helpful to the message. Spewing hate about the military is not becoming of someone who hopes to be Commander in Chief. Scorning police does not sound like someone whose responsibility is to carry out the law.
    I must have missed where most of these "tea party" candidates did any of the above.

    Remember Christine O’Donnell in Delaware?

    She defeated U.S. Rep. Michael Castle in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat. Then she had to spend all fall explaining to voters why she was not a witch.

    Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/tal...rty-tea-party/
    O'Donnell was ridiculed on religious grounds, not libertarian ideas.

    In 2010, two other shaky Tea Party-backed primary victors, Sharron Angle in Nevada and Ken Buck in Colorado, suffered similar fates in the general election.

    Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/tal...rty-tea-party/
    What did Buck and Angle do that was so "kooky"? And was it a "libertarian" or "anarchist" idea?

    Richard Mourdock went on to say some really stupid things about abortion and got his butt whipped in the fall, 50-44.

    Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/tal...rty-tea-party/
    What does that have to do with "libertarian" ideas?

    And of course, who can forget the great Todd Akin, the Republican House member from Missouri who was going to defeat Sen. Claire McCaskill — until he started blathering about “legitimate rape” and his campaign tanked.

    Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/tal...rty-tea-party/
    I must have missed the "legitimate rape" seminar in libertarian circles.
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    Michael Reagan: Shut Up Tea Party, Your Candidates Are Kooks

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    Michael Reagan, shut up, you and Karl Rove lose almost every election you get involved in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap View Post
    Satire...right?
    Not even a little bit. A libertarian does not come out of a vacuum. There must be a principled set of ideas that can be clearly communicated to voters. Reagan is a good example. So is Dr. Paul. Incapsulate and communicate the message, or you all will be sitting right here in November 2016 scratching your heads and wondering how you lost. Again.

    Get back to your basics and get those ideas out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    He is. The last time I listened to him (years ago) he was smugly bragging about how he exaggerated some medical problem to avoid being drafted during Vietnam. Of course he's all for the neocon wars, and probably was all for the Vietnam War too, just so long as he himself didn't have to participate.

    typical chickenhawk

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    Its funny that the leading GOP presidential candidate, Rand Paul, is also the leading tea party member of Congress.

    Most of the "kooks" that give the GOP a bad name are social conservatives that say stupid things about rape and such. Of course there are also those "kooks" like McCain and Graham that think the answer to every question is "Bomb the $#@! out of them!" and those guys certainly aren't tea party fellows.

    Additionally the whole tea party name is somewhat meaningless when many tea party people are just typical Republican voters that supported Santorum or Romney even though they are extremely opposed to the tea party.
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    Why should anyone give a $#@! what this jerkoff says? If anything, his blather shows that we're doing a good job.

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