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    Erdogon Govít Responsible for Chemical Attack on Syria

    Erdogon Gov’t Responsible for Chemical Attack on Syria:

    In 2011 Barack Obama led an allied military intervention in Libya without consulting the US Congress.

    • EARLY 2012:

      A highly classified annex to a report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Turkey’s Erdoğan administrations. It pertained to “the rat line”. By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms and ammunition from Gaddafi’s arsenals into southern Turkey and then into Syria to the opposition rebels. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn’t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director. Many of those in Syria who ultimately received the weapons were jihadists, some of them affiliated with al-Qaida.

      The consulate’s only mission in Benghazi was to provide cover for the moving of arms. It had no real political role.

    • SEPTEMBER 2012:

      In September 2012 the assault by a local militia on the American consulate and a nearby undercover CIA facility in Benghazi occurred, which resulted in the death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three others.

      Washington abruptly ended the CIA’s role in the transfer of arms from Libya to Turkey/Syria after the attack on the consulate.

    • END 2012:

      By the end of 2012, it was believed throughout the American intelligence community that the rebels were losing the war. ‘Erdoğan was pissed,’ the former intelligence official said, ‘and felt he was left hanging on the vine. It was his money and the cut-off was seen as a betrayal.’

    • SPRING 2013:

      A series of chemical weapon attacks in March and April 2013 were investigated by a special UN mission to Syria. A person with close knowledge of the UN’s activity in Syria stated that there was evidence linking the Syrian opposition to the first gas attack, on 19 March in Khan Al-Assal, a village near Aleppo. In its final report in December, the U.N. mission said that at least 19 civilians and one Syrian soldier were among the fatalities, along with scores of injured. Investigators interviewed the people who were there, including the doctors who treated the victims. It was clear that the rebels used the gas. It did not come out in public because no one wanted to know.

      At the same time the joint chiefs knew that the Obama administration’s public claims that only the Syrian army had access to sarin were wrong. The American and British intelligence communities had been aware since the spring of 2013 that some rebel units in Syria were developing chemical weapons. In spring 2013 US intelligence learned that the Turkish government was working directly with al-Nusra and its allies to develop a chemical warfare capability. Turkey and Saudi-based chemical facilitators were attempting to obtain sarin precursors in bulk, tens of kilograms, likely for the anticipated large scale production effort in Syria.

      Erdoğan’s hope was to instigate an event that would force the US to cross the red line. Without US military support for the rebels, ‘Erdoğan’s dream of having a client state in Syria is evaporating and he thinks we’re the reason why. When Syria wins the war, he knows the rebels are just as likely to turn on him – where else can they go? So now he will have thousands of radicals in his backyard.’

    • AUGUST 21, 2013:

      Chemical weapons attack against civilians in Syria.


      Within a few days of the 21 August attack Russian military intelligence operatives had recovered samples of the chemical agent from Ghouta. They analysed it and passed it on to British military intelligence; this was the material sent to Porton Down. The UK defence staff who relayed the Porton Down findings to the joint chiefs were sending the Americans a message: ‘We’re being set up here.’ (This account made sense of a terse message a senior official in the CIA sent in late August: ‘It was not the result of the current regime. UK & US know this.’)

      The Porton Down report caused the joint chiefs to go to the president with a serious worry: that the attack sought by the White House would be an unjustified act of aggression. It was the joint chiefs who led Obama to change course. From the beginning of the crisis the joint chiefs had been skeptical of the administration’s argument that it had the facts to back up its belief in Assad’s guilt. But now they had verifiable proof that the Sarin Gas had not come from the Assad Regime. By then the attack was a few days away and American, British and French planes, ships and submarines were at the ready.

      At this stage, Obama’s premise – that only the Syrian army was capable of deploying sarin – was unravelling.

      As intercepts and other data related to the 21 August attacks were gathered, the intelligence community saw evidence to support its suspicions that Turkey was behind the chemical weapons attacks. ‘We now know it was a covert action planned by Erdoğan’s people to push Obama over the red line.’ Our senior military officers have been told by the DIA and other intelligence assets that the sarin was supplied through Turkey. The Turks also provided the training in producing the sarin and handling it.’ Much of the support for that assessment came from the Turks themselves, via intercepted conversations in the immediate aftermath of the attack. ‘Principal evidence came from the Turkish post-attack joy and back-slapping in numerous intercepts. Operations are always so super-secret in the planning but that all flies out the window when it comes to crowing afterwards. There is no greater vulnerability than in the perpetrators claiming credit for success.’

      The post-attack intelligence on Turkey did not make its way to the White House. In the aftermath of the 21 August attack Obama ordered the Pentagon to draw up targets for bombing. Early in the process, the former intelligence official said, ‘the White House rejected 35 target sets provided by the joint chiefs of staff as being insufficiently “painful” to the Assad regime.’ The original targets included only military sites and nothing by way of civilian infrastructure. Under White House pressure, the US attack plan evolved into ‘a monster strike’: The core targets included electric power grids, oil and gas depots, all known logistic and weapons depots, all known command and control facilities, and all known military and intelligence buildings.

      By the last days of August the president had given the Joint Chiefs a fixed deadline for the launch. ‘H hour was to begin no later than Monday morning [2 September], a massive assault to neutralize Assad.’

      So it was a surprise to many when during a speech in the White House Rose Garden on 31 August Obama said that the attack would be put on hold, and he would turn to Congress and put it to a vote (if Congress approved, he would get to bomb Assad while simultaneously being able to share the blame with Congress if it came out that the Syrian military wasn’t behind the attack).

      Congress made it known that, unlike the authorization for the Iraq war, there would be substantive hearings.’ At this point, there was a sense of desperation in the White House, the former intelligence official said. ‘And so out comes Plan B. Call off the bombing strike and Assad would agree to unilaterally sign the chemical warfare treaty and agree to the destruction of all of chemical weapons under UN supervision. As the New York Times reported the next day, the Russian-brokered deal that emerged shortly afterwards had first been discussed by Obama and Putin in the summer of 2012.

      ‘Nobody wants to talk about all this,’ a former intelligence official told me. ‘There is great reluctance to contradict the president, although no all-source intelligence community analysis supported his leap to convict. There has not been one single piece of additional evidence of Syrian involvement in the sarin attack produced by the White House since the bombing raid was called off. My government can’t say anything because we have acted so irresponsibly. And since we blamed Assad, we can’t go back now and blame Erdoğan.’
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    Sy Hersh Reveals Potential Turkish Role in Syria Chemical Strike That Almost Sparked U.S. Bombing

    Seymour Hersh, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist in Washington, D.C. His latest article in the London Review of Books is "The Red Line and the Rat Line." His previous piece on Syria, also for the London Review, was called "Whose Sarin?"

    Read: "The Red Line and the Rat Line." By Seymour Hersh (London Review of Books)

    Was Turkey behind last year’s Syrian chemical weapons attack? That is the question raised in a new exposť by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh on the intelligence debate over the deaths of hundreds of Syrians in Ghouta last year. The United States, and much of the international community, blamed forces loyal to the Assad government, almost leading to a U.S. attack on Syria. But Hersh reveals the U.S. intelligence community feared Turkey was supplying sarin gas to Syrian rebels in the months before the attack took place — information never made public as President Obama made the case for launching a strike. Hersh joins us to discuss his findings.


    This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

    AMY GOODMAN: As Syria continues to remove its chemical weapons arsenal under the monitoring of the United Nations, a new article by the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh questions what happened last year in the Syrian city of Ghouta, when hundreds of Syrians died in a chemical weapons attack. The United States and much of the international community blamed forces loyal to the Assad government, and the incident almost led the U.S. to attack Syria. But according to Hersh, while President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry were making the case for U.S. strikes, analysts inside the U.S. military and intelligence community were privately questioning the administration’s central claim about who was behind the chemical weapons attack.

    According to Hersh, the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency issued a highly classified five-page "talking points" briefing on June 19th which stated the Syrian rebel group al-Nusra maintained a sarin production cell. According to the DIA, it was, quote, "the most advanced sarin plot since al-Qaida’s pre-9/11 effort."

    The DIA document went on to state, quote, "Turkey and Saudi-based chemical facilitators were attempting to obtain sarin precursors in bulk, tens of kilograms, likely for the anticipated large scale production effort in Syria."

    A month before the DIA briefing was written, more than ten members of al-Nusra were arrested in southern Turkey with what local police told the press were two kilograms of sarin.

    Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh now joins us from Washington, D.C. His latest piece is headlined "The Red Line and the Rat Line." It was just published in the London Review of Books.
    Sy Hersh, welcome back to Democracy Now! Lay out what you have found.
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    Thanks for posting!!

    Hersh just did an interview with Scott Horton too
    Any fate but submission.

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    Is it time to bomb Turkey?

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