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    In secret recording, Dick Cheney blasts GOP isolationists

    In secret recording, Dick Cheney blasts GOP isolationists, NSA critics, Obama
    'It probably would've allowed us to stop 9/11,' former vice president says of spy program

    Dylan Stableford
    April 1, 2014


    In a speech at the Republican Jewish Coalition's spring meeting in Las Vegas over the weekend, former Vice President Dick Cheney slammed the "isolationists" within the GOP, defended the National Security Agency spy program and, of course, criticized President Barack Obama.

    Cheney's remarks were closed to the press, but audio of the speech obtained by Mother Jones was posted online Tuesday.

    "That we have created in the National Security Agency this monster bureaucracy that's reading everybody's mail, listening to everybody's phone calls, infringing upon our civil liberties and civil rights — hogwash," Cheney said at the March 29 event. "It probably would've allowed us to stop 9/11.

    ...

    Cheney also commented on the crop of possible 2016 candidates, including Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul.

    "One of the things that concerns me first about the campaign, that I'm worried about, is what I sense to be an increasing strain of isolationism, if I can put it in those terms, in our own party," Cheney said. "It's not taking over, by any means, but there is without question a body of thought now that's supported by many Republicans and some candidates that the United States can afford to turn its back on [the Middle East].

    "The United States' position in [the Middle East] is worse than at any time in my lifetime," Cheney said. "It's reached the point where Israel and Egypt, [the United Arab] Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Jordan are closer to one another — imagine that — than any of them is to us. ... Nobody who's been our friend in the past any longer has any sense of trust in we'll keep our commitments, that we'll be there in a crisis when they need us. On the other hand, none of our adversaries need fear us."

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    Sounds like good news for us. The Old Guard is a dying breed. I look at Dick's negative views towards us as a win. They're scared. Wen are winning.
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    "It probably would've allowed us to stop 9/11."

    Really, because both the NSA and warrantless wiretaps were the norm well before 911, Bush retroactively pardoned himself for the warrantless wiretaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilfunnystuff View Post
    "It probably would've allowed us to stop 9/11."

    Really, because both the NSA and warrantless wiretaps were the norm well before 911, Bush retroactively pardoned himself for the warrantless wiretaps.
    citation?

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    Neocons gonna neocon.
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    Stop criticizing Obama, neocons, just admit you generally agree with him.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    Stop criticizing Obama, neocons, just admit you generally agree with him.
    Amen. And when will the general public finally recognize it? Ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    Amen. And when will the general public finally recognize it? Ever?
    Not if they get their information from the mainstream media. Exposing true neoconservatives and their leftist agenda is verboten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    'It probably would've allowed us to stop 9/11,' former vice president says of spy program
    Cheney said this in secret? I thought Bush and his administration were behind it all!

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    Dick 'war is profit' Cheney.

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    Darth Cheney said:

    "The United States' position in [the Middle East] is worse than at any time in my lifetime," Cheney said. "It's reached the point where Israel and Egypt, [the United Arab] Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Jordan are closer to one another — imagine that — than any of them is to us. ... Nobody who's been our friend in the past any longer has any sense of trust in we'll keep our commitments, that we'll be there in a crisis when they need us. On the other hand, none of our adversaries need fear us."
    The fool doesn't even realize he played a big role in all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    Cheney said this in secret? I thought Bush and his administration were behind it all!
    There's a big difference between away from the camera and microphones and secrete. He just said in away from the microphones and cameras not exactly what i consider to be "in secrete"

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    Cheney is a low life tax tick, who uses fear to justify his parasitic career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    Amen. And when will the general public finally recognize it? Ever?
    Well, the general public hears McCain, Graham, and others attacking Obama for at least having some restraint when it comes to foreign policy. And the public sympathizes with Obama because they'd prefer his foreign policy to the more extreme views the GOP leadership has to offer. The Democrats are thus able to retain millions of Antiwar voters, because the other guys are worse. If the GOP nominates Paul then the Democrats have to answer for their hawkish foreign policy.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    still trying to marginalize our numbers eh

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    "That we have created in the National Security Agency this monster bureaucracy that's reading everybody's mail, listening to everybody's phone calls, infringing upon our civil liberties and civil rights — hogwash," Cheney said at the March 29 event. "It probably would've allowed us to stop 9/11.
    You know what else would've probably allowed 'us' to stop 9/11 Dick?

    Cameras and microphones in every room in every house and hotel in America,elimination of amendments 4 through 8 of the Bill Of Rights,requiring all airline passengers to fly naked and shackled...I'll quit now Dick,I know this stuff arouses you and you do have a weak heart.
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    every time i read this i look for rand hater's comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    Stop criticizing Obama, neocons, just admit you generally agree with him.
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    Being attacked by Cheney can only boost Rand's appeal among the constituencies Rand's trying to court, as no one but the most deranged partisan hacks and neocons like Cheney.

    With luck, maybe Charles Manson and the ghost of Hitler will come out and "blast" Rand next...

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    The National SECURITY Agency has been deliberately breaking our security.

    If we attack them for failing to defend Americas military infrastructure then people like Cheney look like the dimwits they are.

    Vice President Cheney, Why is it so important to you that Russian and Chinese hackers can easily penetrate Americas Military networks?
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    The National SECURITY Agency has been deliberately breaking our security.

    If we attack them for failing to defend Americas military infrastructure then people like Cheney look like the dimwits they are.

    Vice President Cheney, Why is it so important to you that Russian and Chinese hackers can easily penetrate Americas Military networks?
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

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    This reads very much like a planned press release.

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    "Secret" in this case meaning "Meant to be released from the very beginning".

    Too well planned and too fitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    The National SECURITY Agency has been deliberately breaking our security.

    If we attack them for failing to defend Americas military infrastructure then people like Cheney look like the dimwits they are.

    Vice President Cheney, Why is it so important to you that Russian and Chinese hackers can easily penetrate Americas Military networks?
    Speaking of hacking, will a Russian please remote hack his "heart?" Wait never mind, he got a transplant. Damn it, I still choose to believe he has a baboon heart or ANYTHING other than a human heart in his chest.
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