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  1. #151
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    Justice Department Launches Investigation of the Albuquerque, N.M., Police Department’s Use of Force

    http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/N...-crt-1415.html

    The Justice Department announced today that it has opened a civil investigation into use of force by the city of Albuquerque, N.M., Police Department (APD). The investigation will focus on allegations that APD officers engage in use of excessive force, including use of unreasonable deadly force, in their encounters with civilians.

    Through the investigation the department will seek to determine whether APD engages in a pattern or practice of use of excessive force in violation of the Constitution and federal law. The investigation will include a comprehensive review of the police department’s policies, training and systems of accountability. The investigation will also examine the police department’s engagement with the community and external oversight of officer-involved shootings and other force incidents.



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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by libertyjam View Post
    Justice Department Launches Investigation of the Albuquerque, N.M., Police Department’s Use of Force

    http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/N...-crt-1415.html

    The Justice Department announced today that it has opened a civil investigation into use of force by the city of Albuquerque, N.M., Police Department (APD). The investigation will focus on allegations that APD officers engage in use of excessive force, including use of unreasonable deadly force, in their encounters with civilians.

    Through the investigation the department will seek to determine whether APD engages in a pattern or practice of use of excessive force in violation of the Constitution and federal law. The investigation will include a comprehensive review of the police department’s policies, training and systems of accountability. The investigation will also examine the police department’s engagement with the community and external oversight of officer-involved shootings and other force incidents.
    Relying on the "fedgov" to address this BS is only acknowledging their authority.

    If "we the people" want our rights protected we can't be lookin' to the very government that usurps them for protection....

  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Relying on the "fedgov" to address this BS is only acknowledging their authority.

    If "we the people" want our rights protected we can't be lookin' to the very government that usurps them for protection....
    Yup,, does not inspire confidence.

    The "Justice Department" will Justify them.
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  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    Today is "thank a cop day" in Albuquerque.

    http://www.koat.com/news/some-showin...olice/25227852
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  8. #156
    Copsuckers.

    Some showing support for Albuquerque police
    Thank a Cop Day planned for Sunday
    Published 10:42 AM MDT Mar 29, 2014

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. —Earlier this week, hundreds of demonstrators gathered downtown to protest the Albuquerque Police Department and its use of force.

    Albuquerque Police Chief Gorden Eden says he does not believe his department has a problem using deadly excessive force.

    There is another movement underway in support of local law enforcement. Hundreds of people have taken to social media and there is an APD logo circulating Facebook supporting the department.

    Organizers have declared Sunday Thank a Cop Day and are asking people to wave to an officer or just say thank you.

    A Facebook post from a local disc jockey said, in part, “First responders have a job many of us could never handle. These men and women wear bulletproof vests as part of their uniform and never know what their next call is going to bring.”

    The disc jockey said watching a few minutes of a four-hour standoff is like watching the last five minutes of a two-hour movie and thinking you know the whole plot.

    So far, nearly 1,000 people have liked his Facebook post.

    “You know, I have a lot of friends who are police officers. They are good people. I’m grateful they’re out protecting the city,” said Steve Westman, an Albuquerque resident.

    snip

    More than 300 people on Facebook said they would participate in Thank a Cop Day.

  9. #157
    And...the video is down. Hmmmm.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    And...the video is down. Hmmmm.
    They are getting smarter. Wait for the obvious outcry to pass before revising the history and throwing the source down the memory hole.

  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Copsuckers.

    Disgusting.
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  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Disgusting.
    1000 FB likes.

    How many sworn APD officers? According to Wiki, it's "1100 sworn plus 460 unsworn (as of 2010)".

    They couldn't even get all of their own cops to "like" it.
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  14. #161
    It looks like a few uppity mundanes decided to not go along with "thank a cop day."


    http://krqe.com/2014/03/30/second-pr...s-for-justice/

    Protesters march all day Sunday, confront APD
    By Cole Miller and Manette Newbold Fisher Updated: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 7:21 pm Published: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 12:30 pm

    ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – What was supposed to be a peaceful protest Sunday turned into a clash with police that certainly tested the patience of city officials and APD.


    Hundreds of people upset over the recent fatal police shooting of a homeless man in the foothills held their second protest in less than a week, but the protest took on a life of its own.

    Protesters angry over recent APD shootings gathered at Central and First Street on Sunday and marched toward APD headquarters shouting, “We want justice,” and other chants.

    After marching to APD headquarters and the Civic Plaza, protesters started marching east on Central, which according to the protest organizer, was not part of the plan. Officers then showed up at Central and Yale in riot gear and protesters approached them, some yelling at other protesters to keep things peaceful.

    The protesters blocked both lanes on Central, backing up traffic Sunday afternoon. After walking east for a while, they turned back west on Central and, at one point, protesters also attempted to enter the I-25 northound offramp at Central.

    A few protesters live streamed video during the march on various websites, some capturing what looked like people trying to push and move a police car with their own hands.

    After more than five hours of marching, protesters returned to ABQ headquarters and officers in riot gear lined up on Fifth Street and Roma. Protesters faced them toe to toe and for about an hour, some of them sat on the ground in front of them. Officers looked ready to deploy tear gas if necessary. Eventually around 6:20 p.m., some protesters started walking away, back toward Central.

    From there, some of them entered northbound I-25 at Central to protest, with some even laying down. That didn’t last long, however, and they ended up back on Central Avenue as the sun began to set. They marched in both lanes again, disrupting traffic.


    Several people dressed up for the protest with painted faces and posters in hand, many of them yelling, “Hey hey, ho ho, killer cops have got to go.”
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  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    It looks like a few uppity mundanes decided to not go along with "thank a cop day."


    http://krqe.com/2014/03/30/second-pr...s-for-justice/
    Is it happening?

    However, that's not how Durham Police Chief Jose Lopez sees it. In his report to the city manager, which was obtained Wednesday by ABC11, Lopez reveals for the first time that "undercover officers" were in the crowd.

    Describing the group as "increasingly hostile," police say people wearing black bandanas handed out anarchist literature with tips on how to assault officers and escape. Another undercover officer claims to have seen people picking up "large rocks" and concealing them in "backpacks."

    At first, police said a team in riot gear was at a staging area, out of sight, but as the group moved closer to police headquarters and filled the parking lot, officers formed a line and pushed the crowd back.

    The report maps out where rocks were thrown from. One of them hit an officer in the face and chest.

    According to the report, the first smoke bomb came from protesters. It was then that officers equipped with tear gas responded.

    Police deny hitting protesters with batons or other devices. They say the incident which made national headlines has taught them a few tactical lessons. Just not the kind Polanco had in mind.
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  16. #163
    I'm listening to a live stream of the protest still ongoing -- cops screaming at people to "get on the sidewalk" . They're probably itching to get some action.

    http://new.livestream.com/accounts/6...events/2882953

  17. #164
    Anybody got screenshots?


    Hacked Albuquerque police website back online

    http://www.woi-tv.com/story/25113050...-of-protesters

    By RUSSELL CONTRERASAssociated Press

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - The Albuquerque police website is back online after authorities say a cyberattack took it down for hours.

    The department couldn't immediately be reached for comment Sunday evening, but said earlier that the site was breached. It was visible late Sunday afternoon after going down in the early afternoon.

    Police spokesman Simon Drobik said earlier that the disruption was due to a cyberattack but didn't know the source of the hack.

    The attack comes days after a YouTube video emerged threatening retaliation for a recent police shooting that left a homeless man dead. The video that bore the logo of the computer hacking collective Anonymous warned of a cyberattack on city websites and called for a protest march.

    Hundreds of protesters were marching Sunday to protest recent police shootings.

  18. #165
    ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – What was supposed to be a peaceful protest Sunday turned into a clash with police that certainly tested the patience of city officials and APD.
    Well, you know what?

    $#@! $#@!ing you and your patience too.

    If anybody's patience is worn to a frazzled, thin, breaking point, it us hapless mundanes: beaten, tasered, shot, SWATTed, wrongfully arrested and our pets killed on a daily basis by $#@! cops all across the country.

    $#@! off.

  19. #166
    ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – What was supposed to be a peaceful protest Sunday turned into a clash with police that certainly tested the patience of city officials and APD.
    Maybe mundanes are all out of patience with their employees not being held accountable for their unlawful actions.

    However, that's not how Durham Police Chief Jose Lopez sees it. In his report to the city manager, which was obtained Wednesday by ABC11, Lopez reveals for the first time that "undercover officers" were in the crowd.
    So they were the ones throwing stuff.
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  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, you know what?

    $#@! $#@!ing you and your patience too.

    If anybody's patience is worn to a frazzled, thin, breaking point, it us hapless mundanes: beaten, tasered, shot, SWATTed, wrongfully arrested and our pets killed on a daily basis by $#@! cops all across the country.

    $#@! off.
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  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    So they were the ones throwing stuff.
    Knew someone would catch that.



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    So they were the ones throwing stuff.
    That's becoming SOP.

    Have a few undercover cops in the crowd just long enough to stir enough $#@! to justify lighting everybody up.

  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That's becoming SOP.

    Have a few undercover cops in the crowd just long enough to stir enough $#@! to justify lighting everybody up.
    How else to turn a positive peaceful protest into an negative anti-establishment one. Words are a powerful thing and the "JustUS" system, controlled media and politicians know how to use them.

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    How else to turn a positive peaceful protest into an negative anti-establishment one. Words are a powerful thing and the "JustUS" system, controlled media and politicians know how to use them.
    A prime example;

    Arrests made as Albuquerque mayor says protest over police shootings turns to 'mayhem'

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/31...lice-shooting/

    Police in Albuquerque clashed with demonstrators protesting a recent spate of police-involved shootings late Sunday, as the city's mayor said that the situation had degenerated into "mayhem."

    Major Richard Berry's office said that at least three people were arrested, while at least one police officer was injured. The Albuquerque Journal reported that protesters threw rocks and at one point trapped police in a vehicle and tried to break the windows.

    An Associated Press reporter saw gas canisters being thrown outside police headquarters and Albuquerque police and Bernalillo County sheriff's deputies charging at the protesters, which mostly dispersed the crowds. However, as of 11:00 p.m. local time Sunday, the Albuquerque Journal reported that fewer than 100 protesters remained in front of police headquarters.

    "We respected their rights to protest obviously," Berry said, "but what it appears we have at this time is individuals who weren't connected necessarily with the original protest. They've taken it far beyond a normal protest."

    Protesters took to the streets in the early afternoon and stayed out late Sunday after authorities declared an unlawful assembly. People are angry over Albuquerque police's involvement in 37 shootings, 23 of them fatal since 2010. Critics say that's far too many for a department serving a city of about 555,000.

    The protesters repeatedly marched the 2 miles from downtown Albuquerque to the University of New Mexico, holding signs protesting recent police shootings and often snarling traffic. Motorists honked, and supporters took photos with smartphones. Activists called on various city officials to resign, yelling late Sunday for the police chief to resign.

    Justin Elder, 24, followed the protest as a passenger in a car and held a sign that read, "APD: Dressed To Kill."

    "That's what this police force is about," Elder said.

    Albuquerque police in riot gear and New Mexico State Police followed the marchers, and protesters were seen shouting epithets at officers. At one point, a protester climbed a tall street sign on the city's historic Route 66 and unsuccessfully attempted to bring it down.

    A different protester, Alexander Siderits, 23, said he was participating because he was "fed up" with how police treat citizens. "It has reached a boiling point," he said, "and people just can't take it anymore."

    The U.S. Justice Department has been investigating the department for more than a year, looking into complaints of civil rights violations and allegations of excessive use of force.

    The gathering came days after a YouTube video emerged threatening retaliation for a recent deadly police shooting.

    The video, which bore the logo of the computer hacking collective Anonymous, warned of a cyberattack on city websites and called for the protest march. Albuquerque police said their site had been breached early Sunday afternoon, but it was visible late in the afternoon after being offline for hours.

    Earlier Sunday, police spokesman Simon Drobik confirmed the disruption was due to a cyberattack and said investigators had not uncovered the source of the hack.

    In the shooting on March 16 that led to the YouTube posting Tuesday, a homeless man was killed in the foothills of the Sandia Mountains on the east side of Albuquerque. The shooting was captured on video and followed a long standoff. The FBI has opened an investigation into the shooting.

    Last week, Albuquerque police fatally shot a man at a public housing complex. Authorities said he shot at officers before they returned fire.

  26. #172
    Three connected thoughts jumped into my head.

    One:
    The U.S. Justice Department has been investigating the department for more than a year, looking into complaints of civil rights violations and allegations of excessive use of force.

    A year? So.... doesn't that mean the feds were alerted to this more than a year prior to this man's murder?
    How does that not directly demonstrate that the system is incapable of treating this as anything other than standard operating procedure?


    Two:
    "We respected their rights to protest obviously," Berry said, "but what it appears we have at this time is individuals who weren't connected necessarily with the original protest. They've taken it far beyond a normal protest."
    Translation: We respect your right to waste a bunch of time and energy earning us some safe overtime. But we're warning you, you're taking it too far. We don't like this turn of events.


    Three:
    So...... without actually spelling it out..... doesn't this kind of indicate that some actions undertaken by the protesters are actually more effective than others?
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

  27. #173
    However, that's not how Durham Police Chief Jose Lopez sees it. In his report to the city manager, which was obtained Wednesday by ABC11, Lopez reveals for the first time that "undercover officers" were in the crowd.
    So,
    "Lopez reveals, for the first time that undercover officers were in the crowd" (i.e., this was the first time undercover officers were in any crowd of protesters.)

    Or
    "Lopez reveals for the first time, that undercover officers were in the crowd" (i.e., this is the first time Lopez has admitted that undercover officers were in a crowd of protesters)


    Describing the group as "increasingly hostile," police say people wearing black bandanas handed out anarchist literature with tips on how to assault officers and escape. Another undercover officer claims to have seen people picking up "large rocks" and concealing them in "backpacks."
    Are these ^ the undercover officers -- the ones in black bandanas handing out literature, and picking up large rocks?
    I have seen through it all... the system is against us. ALL OF IT.

  28. #174
    The protestors need to have "Go-Pro" cameras when they take to the streets... It will record the Police and government lies, as well as protect the protestor against the very police and PSYCHO City installing infiltrators to create mayhem. There should be a law against these government clowns stirring up $#@! in protests and inciting police brutality retaliation, as well as their devious one-sided corporate media reporting.
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  29. #175
    Is this Medieval Supercop, or just Bane on a horse?


  30. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    The protestors need to have "Go-Pro" cameras when they take to the streets... It will record the Police and government lies, as well as protect the protestor against the very police and PSYCHO City installing infiltrators to create mayhem. There should be a law against these government clowns stirring up $#@! in protests and inciting police brutality retaliation, as well as their devious one-sided corporate media reporting.

    I was going to mention infiltrators creating problems...

    I caught myself and remembered several rallies here where the police showed up, sometimes in uniform sometimes not but they always showed up to protect and try and keep us from getting ourselves in trouble.



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  32. #177
    Mayor calls for action on APD

    With the city still reeling from the police shooting of transient camper James Boyd in the Sandia foothills more than two weeks ago, Mayor Richard Berry on Wednesday asked the U.S. Department of Justice for help restoring public confidence in APD.

    Calling Boyd’s shooting a “game changer,” Berry also pledged to push a package of training improvements and other reforms that are not just “lip service.”

    Boyd’s shooting as he appeared ready to surrender was captured on video and released by the Albuquerque Police Department. It touched off a national reaction, and has been viewed online more than a million times.

    In a three-page letter to the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ, Berry asked the department to begin monitoring local police as his administration launches a series of reforms aimed at helping officers defuse encounters before they turn violent.

    http://www.abqjournal.com/378243/new...or-action.html

    Crisis unit not deployed to Boyd standoff

    A specialized unit of the Albuquerque Police Department trained to defuse dangerous situations with mentally ill people was not deployed to the Sandia foothills to negotiate with James Boyd on the day he was fatally shot, advocates said.

    Nor was the city’s psychiatrist consulted. Instead, APD deployed officers who deal with repeat offenders.

    Leaders of APD’s Crisis Intervention Team, who met with a community group last week, acknowledged that the team played no role in the five-hour standoff with Boyd on March 16, said Berri Roberts, executive director of the Bernalillo County Forensic Intervention Consortium.

    “They were not called, and they were not out there,” Robert said of the four CIT detectives, who are extensively trained and have daily experience working with mentally ill people.

    APD declined to comment Wednesday, citing a pending FBI investigation into the Boyd shooting.

    APD Chief Gorden Eden said on the night of the shooting that officers requested a Crisis Intervention Team and a supervisor. Police told the Journal and other news organizations following Boyd’s death that a CIT officer had tried unsuccessfully to negotiate with Boyd, who had a history of arrests and hospitalizations for mental illness.

    Roberts said two ranking officers who oversee the Crisis Intervention Team made the comments – about the team not being present during the standoff – last week during a meeting with members of Forensic Intervention Consortium, a broad coalition of groups with an interest in the issue of mental illness.



    http://www.abqjournal.com/378251/new...l-illness.html


    Illegal Mourners(need permit) pay respects to James Boyd


    Most all of the mourners who gathered at sunset in the Sandia Foothills on Wednesday had no idea who he was or where he came from, but many still cried at his eulogy.

    The candlelight vigil for James M. Boyd, 38, drew more than 100 people who came to reflect on what the death of this man – who was mostly unknown even to those who knew him – means for those still living in Albuquerque, which has seen a massive outcry following Boyd’s shooting death by police March 16.

    “It was a wrongdoing,” said Mabel Williamson, a lifelong city resident, who attended the vigil about a quarter-mile northeast of the Copper Trailhead. “This man was not bothering anyone, was trying to sleep. He didn’t deserve it.”

    The vigil featured Ralph DiPalma, a minister who knew Boyd during his work with Albuquerque homeless, and told those mourning Boyd’s death that the man deserved mercy, love and support from police and others who encountered him, especially in his final moments.

    “That’s where he ended up: Crying for mercy, crying for mercy,” DiPalma said. “And he didn’t get it.”

    Helmet-camera video released by Albuquerque police shows Boyd, who was holding two small knives, turning away from officers as they opened fire upon him. He then fell facedown on the ground and said, “Please don’t hurt me anymore,” before officers shoot him with beanbag rounds and let loose a police dog upon him. He died the next day at a hospital.

    The shooting prompted a local, national and international outcry when video of the shooting went viral. It sparked multiple protests in Albuquerque, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation is reviewing the shooting for possible criminal prosecution.

    Most of the attendees said they never knew Boyd, but wanted to pay their respects to a man who many said was failed by the system.


    http://www.abqjournal.com/378319/new...s-to-boyd.html
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  33. #178
    "First responders have a job many of us could never handle. These men and women wear bulletproof vests as part of their uniform and never know what their next call is going to bring.”

    Very valid point. They might have to initiate a confrontation with a homeless man in a park, then kill him by shooting him in the back. They just never know if the call to go out and kill someone who isn't bothering anyone else might have to be answered by them.

  34. #179
    You know who doesn't have one of the 10 most dangerous jobs? The people wearing bullet-proof vests.

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    You know who doesn't have one of the 10 most dangerous jobs? The people wearing bullet-proof vests.
    You know who doesn't have job security, qualified immunity, access to firearms and the ability to take them anywhere at anytime, health benefits, the backing of one of the most powerful unions in America and generous pension plans? The people that wear carpenters aprons, roofing aprons, logging belts, immersion suits, seat belts and airbags

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