Stewart Rhodes interviews Ares Armor CEO Dimitrios Karras and Socal Oath Keeper John Oetken about the raid on Ares Armor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsMcs...eZsnzqq6IOZWfw
This story is unreal, I can't believe I did't see it. Things are truly out of control and there are no restraints on the agents of government if this is allowed.
The ATF raids gun store despite court order
MARCH 19, 2014 http://americaswatchtower.com/2014/0...e-court-order/
If the account of this story is accurate it is scary because we are headed toward a potential police state faster than I ever imagined. ATF agents, with a search warrant, raided a gun store with weapons drawn during business hours while customers were in the store and confiscated some materials and computers which included a list of customers.
At this point you might be asking something to the effect of; if the ATF agents had a search warrant what is the big deal? And you would be right to ask that question if it were not for the fact that this gun store asked for, and received, a temporary court order delaying the search warrant while the courts decided if the materials in question were illegal. To top it all off the gun store had locked the questionable materials in a safe and were not selling them while they waited for the court decision and had planned to turn the material over willingly if the court did not rule in their favor.
Here is more:
With a search warrant in hand, federal agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confiscated computers, customer lists and the questionable polymer 80 percent lower receivers from four Ares Armor store locations throughout San Diego County over the weekend.
“There were women and children inside our retail establishment when the (ATF) agents came in with guns drawn,” said Ares Armor Executive Officer Dimitrios Karras. “They came into our firearms manufacturing facility saying, ‘Arms up!’ like they were invading Iraq.”
The raid happened three days after Ares owner was granted a temporary restraining by a judge to stop ATF agents from searching their stores.
The ATF confirmed they were investigating the stores for federal firearm violations stemming from the sale of a new plastic version of the 80 percent lowers, which gun enthusiast use to build their own AR-15 rifles.
Building a rifle with specific versions of the 80 percent receivers is legal. The polymer lower receiver appears to be manufactured differently with two parts, making them a firearm and illegal sell, according to the ATF.
“We did ask the court to clarify if these things were firearms or not,” said Karras. “We did ask for protection as this gets resolved within the court system.”
Karras said they had their polymer lower receivers locked in a closet ready to turn over to the ATF since Wednesday. He was more concerned about the federal agents taking lists of his customers’ information.
If the ATF believes itself to be above a court order, and if this is allowed to stand, then there truly is no law which the Federal government does not feel it is above. And that is the definition of a police state.
"The Patriarch"
Feds raid gun parts stores despite court order;
SAN DIEGO – With a search warrant in hand, federal agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confiscated computers, customer lists and the questionable polymer 80 percent lower receivers from four Ares Armor store locations throughout San Diego County over the weekend.
“There were women and children inside our retail establishment when the (ATF) agents came in with guns drawn,” said Ares Armor Executive Officer Dimitrios Karras. “They came into our manufacturing facility with their guns up like they were invading Iraq.”
The raid happened three days after Ares owner was granted a temporary restraining by a judge to stop ATF agents from searching their stores.
The ATF confirmed they were investigating the stores for federal firearm violations.
The case stems from the sale of what is called an 80% lower receiver, which gun enthusiast use to build their own rifles and guns.
Building a rifle with specific versions of the 80 percent receivers is legal. The polymer lower receiver appears to be manufactured differently with two parts, making them a firearm and illegal sell, according to the ATF.
“We did ask the court to clarify if these things were firearms or not,” said Karras. “We did ask for protection as this gets resolved within the court system.”
Karras said they had their polymer lower receivers locked in a closet ready to turn over to the ATF since Wednesday. He was more concerned about the federal agents taking lists of his customers’ information.
“If anybody is a criminal organization that should be investigated, I think they should look in the mirror. We gave them a black eye publicly,” Karras said. “They tried to do an underhanded deal with us. They said, ‘Hey hush, hush. Keep it secret and nobody’s going to know that we took the customer list from you. Nobody’s going to know we took this from you.’”
The investigation has some customers nervous about their right to bear arms.
“I’m on that list, and I’m waiting for the knock on the door to tell me they are here to remove my second amendment rights,” one customer told Fox 5.
Read more: http://fox5sandiego.com/2014/03/17/f...#ixzz2wW6hfAFG
"The Patriarch"
If you are going to be raided anyway, there is not much incentive to limit the type of weapons that you build to ones that someone else thinks you should be allowed to have.
Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.
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