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    Oliver Stone among the libertarians



    Oliver Stone among the libertarians
    Stone defends Latin American leaders, calls Obama "a weak man" and dishes on Hillary Clinton.
    By Chris Moody, Yahoo News 2 hours ago

    WASHINGTON -- Seated at a table between a painting of Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises and a stack of right-wing books with titles like, “Why We Must Abolish the Income Tax” and “The Dangers of Socialized Medicine,” Oliver Stone, the iconic Hollywood filmmaker with a soft spot for Latin American strongmen, was in a strange place.

    A line of college students attending the “International Students for Liberty Conference,” an annual gathering of college libertarian clubs from around the world, snaked through the Grand Hyatt basement for pictures, autographs and an opportunity to give the 67-year-old Academy Award-winning director an earful.

    To the befuddlement of the attendees, many of whom consider Stone a “socialist” who pals around with dictators (such as the late Venezuelan President Cesar Chávez), Stone had accepted an invitation to speak Saturday at the conference. His panel's focus: "imperial overreach" and "the national security state," a topic on which even an anarchic libertarian and a staunchest leftist can find common ground.

    Stone’s history of support for former presidential candidate and Texas Rep. Ron Paul notwithstanding, he’s also become known in political circles for his visceral hatred of the modern Republican Party and for defending the administrations of Fidel Castro in Cuba and the late Hugo Chávez in Venezuela. In 2009, he produced a film called “South of the Border” that offered a generous portrayal of leaders in five Latin American countries, including Chávez and Cuban President Raúl Castro.
    more:
    http://news.yahoo.com/oliver-stone-a...215632840.html
    Last edited by jct74; 02-18-2014 at 12:53 PM. Reason: add link
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    Venezuelan President Cesar Chavez? Huh?



    Communist Oliver Stone is an idiot who should not have been invited due to his dangerous views. SFL need to bring in Rand Paul if they want to be taken seriously.

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    Stone has a weakness for rulers (flaws and all) who stood up to US control freak interventionism and hegemony. The vast majority of countries are unfree or closed states, but the ones you hear the the US media machine complain about the most are the ones our government do not control. Stone is more at home with the foreign non-interventionism of the Paul and liberty movements than much of the current left or right establishment. Alex Jones has claimed Stone listens to his show but will not go on record about doing so.
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    here's a link to the article, it was missing from OP:

    http://news.yahoo.com/oliver-stone-a...215632840.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    Stone has a weakness for rulers (flaws and all) who stood up to US control freak interventionism and hegemony. The vast majority of countries are unfree or closed states, but the ones you hear the the US media machine complain about the most are the ones our government do not control. Stone is more at home with the foreign non-interventionism of the Paul and liberty movements than much of the current left or right establishment. Alex Jones has claimed Stone listens to his show but will not go on record about doing so.
    Yep.

    I think we should all have a weakness for those rulers.

    And, again- everyone should read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins. This will give you a little different POV on some of these SA rulers.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/...onomic_hit_man
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by compromise View Post
    Venezuelan President Cesar Chavez? Huh?



    Communist Oliver Stone is an idiot who should not have been invited due to his dangerous views. SFL need to bring in Rand Paul if they want to be taken seriously.
    I'll take Stone's anti-war rhetoric over your idol Ted Cruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIU Students for Liberty View Post
    I'll take Stone's anti-war rhetoric over your idol Ted Cruz.
    So you would be fine with the US having Venezuelan levels of economic freedom if it meant no more intervention ever?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    Stone has a weakness for rulers (flaws and all) who stood up to US control freak interventionism and hegemony. The vast majority of countries are unfree or closed states, but the ones you hear the the US media machine complain about the most are the ones our government do not control. Stone is more at home with the foreign non-interventionism of the Paul and liberty movements than much of the current left or right establishment. Alex Jones has claimed Stone listens to his show but will not go on record about doing so.
    yep, chavez bad, castro bad

    Name a south american country that isn't crap
    argentina, mexico, brazil?
    haiti, now there's a paradise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by compromise View Post
    So you would be fine with the US having Venezuelan levels of economic freedom if it meant no more intervention ever?
    You mean the same economic freedom that the U.S. enjoys when its government steals from its own people so the military can destroy societies across the globe? Like what Cruz wants to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by compromise View Post
    Venezuelan President Cesar Chavez? Huh?



    Communist Oliver Stone is an idiot who should not have been invited due to his dangerous views. SFL need to bring in Rand Paul if they want to be taken seriously.

    LOL. I would rather go listen to Oliver Stone than Rand Paul. At least with Stone you're going to hear some interesting and unfiltered opinions on foreign policy and other issues. With Rand Paul you're not going to get anything except for banal platitudes, geared towards Glenn Beck followers.

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    Oliver Stone talks about Ron Paul and gets questioned by Jan Helfeld



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrLP8GXOnE

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    Lyceum Address
    "But I do mean to say, that, although bad laws, if they exist, should be repealed as soon as possible, still while they continue in force, for the sake of example, they should be religiously observed." - Abraham Lincoln

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travlyr View Post
    Lyceum Address
    Says the dictator...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    Says the dictator...
    Please, explain what you mean by dictator.

    Perhaps in another thread. I do not wish to derail this thread.

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    Stone could be a great asset...



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    Jan Helfeld is great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    Stone could be a great asset...
    Indeed. It seems to me that "We Are Change" kind of blindsided him. If they will prepare their interviewees beforehand, then they may be much more effective in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travlyr View Post
    Lyceum Address

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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    Well now, that is a very unintelligent response. Well Done, Anarchist! Are you completely illiterate?

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    I get a lot of -reps from people who think that the lifelong warmonger and slave owning tyrant Jefferson Davis was a hero.
    - rep - You already did by pushing your Lincoln BS in this thread that has nothing to do with him. Sheesh man, give it a break. - Liberty Eagle
    I actually politely ask Petar to take his question about Lincoln's dictatorship to another thread to discuss. I await his response, yet I am dumbfounded about the number of people who are so scared of truth that they run from it at the first opportunity. Petar, I await your response because I am ready with facts of history.
    Last edited by Travlyr; 02-18-2014 at 09:27 PM.

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    I'd like to listen to a debate Larken Rose and Stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2 View Post
    I'd like to listen to a debate Larken Rose and Stone.
    That would be interesting. They have lived on both side of the fences.



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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    It was a serious crime to stand-up for freedom in 1858. The slavers believed they had the right to kill anyone who stood for liberty except themselves. FU people who believe in liberty for all. The big FU. Slavery is your lot in life.



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