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    Turmeric Strikes at ‘Root Cause’ of Cancerous Tumor Development, Study Finds

    Turmeric Strikes at ‘Root Cause’ of Cancerous Tumor Development, Study Finds


    by Elizabeth Renter
    February 12th, 2014

    Turmeric is known for a wide range of benefits, one of the most promising being it’s potential uses in the prevention and treatment of cancer. A new study published in the journal Cancer Letters has taken a new look at the active anti-cancer component in turmeric—curcumin—and found that it can strike at the ‘root cause’ of cancerous tumor formation.

    The conventional school of thought has always assumed cancer cells self-renew, that the cells within a tumor are sort of equals. Another school of thought, and one that is gaining more traction, is the one that looks at cells known as cancer stem cells (CSC) and proposes that these sort of “mother” cells are at the top of cancer cell hierarchy and drive the growth of tumors.

    Using the conventional model of cancer and treating tumors with surgery, chemo, and radiation, we may be able to “debulk” a tumor, but the stem cells may remain behind. When this happens, not only does the tumor eventually come back, but it does so with a vengeance, being treatment-resistant and often resulting as death.

    Continued...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    natural news no thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Americans in general are jedi masters of blaming every other person.

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    LOL It's not NN, and besides that, NS didn't conduct the study. They're just reporting on it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24463298

    Cancer Letters is a peer-reviewed medical journal established in 1975
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    natural news no thanks

    If it has "Natural" in the link some people, here, immediately start frothing at the mouth and deny, deny, deny! That's pretty funny.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    People used to do that with inforwars here, but very few people the balls to do that anymore.

    Some day it will be so with NN as well I believe.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    People used to do that with inforwars here, but very few people the balls to do that anymore.

    Some day it will be so with NN as well I believe.
    Which only mean that the last of the sane people have left. Every single time NN blogs about something new and scary, quick fact checking turns it into mush. AJ tends to use secret sources and insider information....which can't be fact-checked except in posterity. And by the time those stories are debunked, people have moved on to some new scary conspiracy.

    Sounds like there is a case to be made for genetically modifying curcimin:

    .
    Importantly, the low bioavailability of curcumin has been dramatically improved through the use of structural analogues or special formulations. More clinical trials are underway to investigate the efficacy of this promising agent in cancer chemoprevention and therapy. In this article, we review the effects of curcumin on CSC self-renewal pathways and specific microRNAs, as well as its safety and efficacy in recent human studies. In conclusion, curcumin could be a very promising adjunct to traditional cancer treatments.
    And it doesn't seem to be presenting this as some sort of a miracle cure - note the use of the word adjunct.

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    No, people actually stopped ragging on infowars because too many of his big stories that ended up in the MSM (or not so much) were credible and that some of his articles are written in a way that may contain minor speculation but are based on real evidence.. But that speculation is merely based on historical evidence rather than any type of science fiction so it becomes very difficult to argue and say that the stories are inaccurate and seem rational when in fact it is very probable that even the more outlandish ones are true at least to a large extent and that at a minimum the information contained is important.
    Last edited by dannno; 02-13-2014 at 10:56 AM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I'd stay away from E100. Anything with an E-number must be bad.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    I'd stay away from E100. Anything with an E-number must be bad.
    Spreading more misinformation eh?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    No, people actually stopped ragging on infowars because too many of his big stories that ended up in the MSM (or not so much) were credible and that some of his articles are written in a way that may contain minor speculation but are based on real evidence.. But that speculation is merely based on historical evidence rather than any type of science fiction so it becomes very difficult to argue and say that the stories are inaccurate and seem rational when in fact it is very probable that even the more outlandish ones are true at least to a large extent and that at a minimum the information contained is important.

    That's just simply not true. Since JFKJr moved on, the steady stream of everything that AJ posted also disappeared. That quelled a lot of the discontent.

    90% of what AJ writes is based on stories he got from the MSM media. He takes them and rewrites them to give them a hysterical "<Insert crisis here> was in inside job!" spin, throws in secret sources with a globalist plot for good measure...and entertains his minions.

    You just said yourself that he mixes in speculation with evidence, but then justified it because....well, I don't know why. You're splitting hairs from a dead horse - you are right, he basis his nonsense at least partially on history, so that means it isn't science fiction. It's historical fiction.

    But fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Spreading more misinformation eh?
    Does turmeric have an E-number or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    If it has "Natural" in the link some people, here, immediately start frothing at the mouth and deny, deny, deny! That's pretty funny.
    And they think that is being scientific.

    Science is the study of the physical nature of everything we comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    That's just simply not true. Since JFKJr moved on, the steady stream of everything that AJ posted also disappeared. That quelled a lot of the discontent.

    90% of what AJ writes is based on stories he got from the MSM media. He takes them and rewrites them to give them a hysterical "<Insert crisis here> was in inside job!" spin, throws in secret sources with a globalist plot for good measure...and entertains his minions.

    You just said yourself that he mixes in speculation with evidence, but then justified it because....well, I don't know why. You're splitting hairs from a dead horse - you are right, he basis his nonsense at least partially on history, so that means it isn't science fiction. It's historical fiction.

    But fiction.
    AJ and Natural News do usually use facts (Natural News is more liberal with using or not using facts though). What they both do is to "spin" them in the most scary way because that is what their readers/ viewers like. Alex drives by an airport and notes a fence around an area. Suddenly this is some new DHS facility where people are going to be rounded up and locked into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    AJ and Natural News do usually use facts (Natural News is more liberal with using or not using facts though). What they both do is to "spin" them in the most scary way because that is what their readers/ viewers like. Alex drives by an airport and notes a fence around an area. Suddenly this is some new DHS facility where people are going to be rounded up and locked into.
    Of course if the barbed wire on the top of the fence is set up to keep people from getting out, I can understand why he would say that.

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    Sorry natural anything + donnay equals 99% bs.

    Also infowars is also bs.
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    Americans in general are jedi masters of blaming every other person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    natural news no thanks
    That's why we are so diverse here. You don't even have to post in this thread, there are so many other topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    Sorry natural anything + donnay equals 99% bs.

    Also infowars is also bs.
    So you deliberately come into a thread that I post just to troll. LOL! Move along, nothing to see here. Ignorance is bliss.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    And they think that is being scientific.

    Science is the study of the physical nature of everything we comprehend.


    And it also seems to be something that the Natural News people can't actually grasp with any reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Spreading more misinformation eh?
    Does it have an E number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    That's why we are so diverse here. You don't even have to post in this thread, there are so many other topics.
    Excellent suggestion!!
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Does it have an E number?
    Does carbon?

    Edit: Here is an E number that is even more interesting.
    E300
    Last edited by Dr.3D; 02-13-2014 at 03:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Does carbon?

    Edit: Here is an E number that is even more interesting.
    E300
    You missed the conversation that generated this line of questioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    You missed the conversation that generated this line of questioning.
    I saw somebody say E100 was something to stay away from then I saw disagreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Does turmeric have an E-number or not?
    According to the European code and within the guidelines of Codex Alimentarius for the International Numbering System (INS) it is E-100.


    Colorants found in nature
    E101 riboflavin, E101a riboflavin 5'-phosphate, E100 curcumin, turmeric oleoresin, E120 carmine, E140 chlorophyll, E141 Chlorophyll-Cu, E163 Anthocyanin, E162 betanin, red beet juice, 160a beta-carotene, alfa, gama-carotene, E160f beta-apo-8'-carotenal, E160b Bixin,norbixin, capsanthin, capsorubin, E160d lycopene, E161b lutein (xanthophyll).

    (...)

    Curcumin [24]
    Stig Bengmark looking for therapeutic agents which can modulate the inflammatory reaction , found that curcumin, a component of turmeric, to be non-toxic, to have antioxidant activity, and to inhibit such mediators of inflammation as NFB, cyclooxygenase-2 (COX-2), lipooxygenase (LOX), and inducible nitric oxide synthase (iNOS).

    According to Bengmark turmeric, an approved food additive, or its component curcumin, has shown surprisingly beneficial effects in experimental studies of acute and chronic diseases characterized by an exaggerated inflammatory reaction.
    http://www.ourfood.com/Additives_E_Numbers.html
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Exclamation Why Turmeric May Be the Diseased Liver's Best Friend

    Why Turmeric May Be the Diseased Liver's Best Friend

    Written By: Sayer Ji

    You know turmeric has health benefits, most notably reducing inflammation, but did you know it may also protect and heal the damaged and diseased liver?

    A new clinical trial published in the journal BMC Complementary and Alternative Medicine is shedding light on turmeric's remarkable liver protective and regenerative properties.[1]

    South Korean researchers at the Clinical Trial Center for Functional Foods, Chonbuk National University Hospital, tested their hypothesis that turmeric may improve liver function by administering a fermented form to subjects, 20 years old and above, who were diagnosed mild to moderate elevated alanine aminotransferase (ALT) levels, a maker for liver damage and/or dysfunction.

    Sixty subjects were randomized to receive 3.0 g per fermented turmeric powder (FTP) or placebo 3.0 g per day for 12 weeks. The treatment group received two capsules of FTP three times a day after meals, for 12 weeks.

    What were the results?

    Not only did FTP significantly reduce ALT levels in subjects but also reduced serum aspartate transaminase (AST) and gamma-glutamyltransferase (GGT), two additional enzymes which when elevated are commonly associated with liver damage. The effects were maintained as long as the subjects remained on the treatment. Also, FTP was well tolerated and without significant adverse effects.

    This study adds additional weight to a rather vast body of preclinical research that has accumulated over the past two decades confirming turmeric and its primary polyphenol curcumin's liver protecting properties. The GreenMedInfo.com database now contains 86 studies demonstrating the ability of turmeric (and curcumin) to protect the liver against a wide range of chemical and drug exposures.[2] We recently featured a study published in the Journal of the Medical Association of Thailand which revealed the potential of turmeric to protect and regenerate the diabetic liver.[3]

    Turmeric May Also Kill Liver Cancer

    What may be even more remarkable is the accumulating research on the anti-liver cancer properties of turmeric (and curcumin). The GreenMedInfo.com has 26 preclinical studies showing it kills liver cancer cells and tumors, including one case study involving a 6-month old infant with a life-threatening liver vascular tumor (hemangioendothelioma) who was reported treated successfully with a dietary supplement of curcumin, with 6-year follow-up.[4]

    One of the most remarkable facts about turmeric as a potential drug and chemotherapy alternative is its exceptionally high margin of safety. A 2001 study in cancer patients reported that quantities of curcumin up to 8 g, administered per day for three months, were not toxic and resulted in significant anti-cancer properties in a number of those treated.[5] Considering that turmeric is only 3-4% curcumin by weight, this implies that a larger quantity of turmeric can be consumed safely, as well.

    Of course, while these results are promising, the real solution to elevated liver enzymes is to identify the underlying causes, e.g. infection, NSAID use, chemical exposures, dietary intolerances, etc., and remove them. Failing that, those within the integrative medical field who are looking for evidence-based ways to address the sometimes inevitable hepatotoxicity of standard drug-based treatments may find a role for turmeric (curcumin) in their practices. Other folks, simply looking for ways to improve their health and to prevent liver problems may wish to consume smaller doses through incorporating the spice (which must be organic to avoid the dangers of irradiation) into traditional recipes at culinary doses. [see our EATomology project for guidance on this]

    For more information on Turmeric's amazing healing properties read our article: 600 Reasons Why Turmeric May Be the World's Most Important Spice.

    [1] Sang-Wook Kim, Ki-Chan Ha, Eun-Kyung Choi, Su-Young Jung, Min-Gul Kim, Dae-Young Kwon, Hye-Jung Yang, Min-Jung Kim, Hee-Joo Kang, Hyang-Im Back, Sun-Young Kim, Soo-Hyun Park, Hum-Young Baek, Yong-Jae Kim, Joon-Yeol Lee, Soo-Wan Chae. The effectiveness of fermented turmeric powder in subjects with elevated alanine transaminase levels: a randomised controlled study. BMC Complement Altern Med. 2013 ;13:58. Epub 2013 Mar 8. PMID: 23497020

    [2] GreenMedInfo.com, Professional Feature: Focus Turmeric's Hepatoprotective Properties Articles (86 abstracts)

    [3] GreenMedInfo.com, Turmeric May Repair and Regenerative the Diabetic Liver

    [4] Lewis A Hassell, Le Dinh Roanh. Potential response to curcumin in infantile hemangioendothelioma of the liver. Pediatr Blood Cancer. 2010 Aug;55(2):377-9. PMID: 20582974

    [5] A L Cheng, C H Hsu, J K Lin, M M Hsu, Y F Ho, T S Shen, J Y Ko, J T Lin, B R Lin, W Ming-Shiang, H S Yu, S H Jee, G S Chen, T M Chen, C A Chen, M K Lai, Y S Pu, M H Pan, Y J Wang, C C Tsai, C Y Hsieh. Phase I clinical trial of curcumin, a chemopreventive agent, in patients with high-risk or pre-malignant lesions. Anticancer Res. 2001 Jul-Aug;21(4B):2895-900. PMID: 11712783

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why...riend-friend-a
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Compound in turmeric found to suppress viruses, including hepatitis, herpes, chikungunya, influenza-A, HIV and HPV



    The turmeric compound curcumin was found to effectively suppress a large number of viruses, recent studies showed. The compound was previously known to defer cancer growth, resolve Lichen Panus, reduce type-2 diabetes and prevent Alzheimer’s disease and dementia onset. However, a new article published in GreenMedInfo.com listed several other studies indicating that the compound was able to inhibit the growth of a plethora of viruses including zika virus, hepatitis, herpes, chikungunya virus, influenza-A, HIV and HPV.

    According to a team of researchers from the Pasteur Institute in France, the turmeric compound not only inhibited the growth of zika and chikungunya viruses, but also halted the ability of these harmful viruses to infect otherwise healthy cells. The research team also noted a dose-dependent effect in inhibiting these viruses. Curcumin was found to affect the virus’ ability to bind with other cells.

    Another study published in the journal Gut showed that curcumin hindered the hepatitis C virus from entering the human liver cells. According to the researchers, this effect proved especially beneficial — as exposure to the HCV virus caused severe liver disease and was known to affect more than 160 million people around the world. “Curcumin treatment had no effect on HCV RNA replication or viral assembly/release. However, co-incubation of HCV with curcumin potently inhibited entry of all major HCV genotypes. Similar antiviral activities were also exerted by other curcumin derivatives but not by tetrahydrocurcumin, suggesting the importance of α,β-unsaturated ketone groups for the antiviral activity. Expression levels of known HCV receptors were unaltered, while pretreating the virus with the compound reduced viral infectivity without viral lysis. Membrane fluidity experiments indicated that curcumin affected the fluidity of the HCV envelope resulting in impairment of viral binding and fusion. Curcumin has also been found to inhibit cell-to-cell transmission and to be effective in combination with other antiviral agents,” the researchers concluded.

    Turmeric compound impedes more viruses

    Curcumin was also known to suppress the influenza-A virus in a number of studies. Researchers at the Graduate Institute of Microbiology and Public Health at the National Chung Hsing University in Taiwan found that the turmeric compound interfered with the virus’ haemagglutination activity by blocking its ability to bind with red blood cells in patients. Another study published in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases showed that the turmeric compound decreased viral replication by more than 90 percent in cultured cells infected with influenza-A. The compound was also found to inhibit the virus from infecting other cells. In addition, a study published in the Italian Journal of Biochemistry revealed that curcumin prompted hemeoxygenase-1 gene stimulation in the hippocampus of the brain. In turn, this activation triggered the production of bilirubin, a potent antioxidant essential for the immune system’s health. (Related: Take better care of your health by reading Prevention.news).

    The turmeric compound was shown to suppress herpes virus. According to researchers at the Michigan State University, curcumin inhibited the virus from spreading by affecting its early gene expression. “Curcumin is a potent compound with various biological properties. We have shown that curcumin significantly affects HSV-1 IE gene expression which thereby diminishes the ability of the virus to launch the lytic infectious cycle,” the researchers wrote. Another study by McMaster University researchers revealed that the turmeric compound stopped both simplex-1 and herpes simplex-2 viruses from spreading by preventing the replication of the viruses in infected T-cells.

    “The science literature clearly shows that turmeric is a goldmine of powerful medicinal compounds with extraordinary benefits for human health,” remarked Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, author of Food Forensics and lab science director of an internationally recognized food science laboratory. “If turmeric had been invented by a pharmaceutical company, it would be hailed as the greatest breakthrough in medical history,” Adams says.

    A study published in the Asia Pacific Journal of Cancer Prevention also found that curcumin was able to clear human papillomavirus in women. As part of the study, researchers at the Chittaranjan National Cancer Institute in India examined 287 HPV-positive women. The experts noted that women who were givencurcumin-based treatments had HPV clearance rates between 81 percent and 87 percent.

    Sources include:

    GreenMedInfo.com

    LiveStrong.com

    Gut.BMJ.com

    NCBI.NLM.NIH.gov
    http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-05-1...v-and-hpv.html
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Chester Copperpot
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    i tried eating turmeric when i had cancer but the taste was too disgusting unless i mixed in with with some sort of fat product which at the time i was also avoiding so im not sure of the efficacy of it... for those that like the taste, God bleen em I guess.. but just yuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    i tried eating turmeric when i had cancer but the taste was too disgusting unless i mixed in with with some sort of fat product which at the time i was also avoiding so im not sure of the efficacy of it... for those that like the taste, God bleen em I guess.. but just yuck
    I can't find a way to get it down either. yuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I can't find a way to get it down either. yuck

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