Joe Manchin: ‘We Haven’t Been Successful’ in Changing Afghanistan: ‘Time to Leave’

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susa...tan-time-leave

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) says it’s time to “rebuild America, not Afghanistan.” He and three other senators want Congress to debate a continued U.S. military presence in that country after 12-plus years of war:

“If military might or money would change that part of the world, we’d have changed it by now,” Manchin told a news conference on Thursday.

Manchin on Thursday joined fellow Democrat Jeff Merkeley (Ore.) and Republicans Mike Lee (Utah) and Rand Paul (Ky.) in introducing a resolution that says Congress should vote on the Obama administration’s reported plan to keep 10,000 American troops in Afghanistan for another ten years

[AngryCanadian]

Its a bit to late now that they are just realizing this fact.

Was the Balkan intervention successful aswell? no it wasn't the current protests there say otherwise.

[paulbot24]

When all else seems to be failing Senator, just start quoting Ron Paul from about a decade ago (or more) on any foreign policy subject and as long as you move the words around a little, people might think that you just figured something out that's really smart! All by yourself!

[Victor Grey]

10,000 troops, for ten years.

That is just enough not to effectively lord over most of Afghanistan anymore with an iron fist. It isn't enough to compel them, no.
The Taliban or something equal, will have every argument available for securing public support, with that amount of invaders arrogantly remaining there.

It's just enough to likely impel people, into a push to drive us out completely, and to create further stern resentment toward us among another generation during that ten years.
It just enough people there to get themselves routinely killed if you ask me. That old saying "only enough to p.o." comes to mind when I think of this idea.
Enough to make an imperialist feel their little warm fuzzies for another decade maybe.

The point that us staying there another ten years clearly will accomplish nothing is completely correct, and the time to leave might as well be ancient history it was so long ago.

[Acala]

Properly understood, the mission was accomplished because the mission was to transfer hundreds of billions of dollars from the people into the pockets of crony-capitalists.

[69360]

Its a bit to late now that they are just realizing this fact.

Was the Balkan intervention successful aswell? no it wasn't the current protests there say otherwise.

Depends which side you were on. The Serbs got bombed because Monica.

[enhanced_deficit]

Joe Manchin: ‘We Haven’t Been Successful’ in Changing Afghanistan..

That is not true, we achieved spectacular success in changing Afghanistan... we just haven't been able to put it back the way it was before we started meddling in.


This was Afghanistan before US intervention there to fund/support/install jihadis:

And then came the freedomers:

USA prints textbooks to support Jihad in Afghanistan and Pakistan


http://supportdanielboyd.wordpress.com/usa-printed-textbooks-support-jihad-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/

Send in tribal Mujahideen Congressman Dana Rohrabacher(R-CA)

No wonder many educated Afghan women think Americans have been far worse for their rights than socialists:

Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA)
www.rawa.org/‎
RAWA is the oldest political/social organization of Afghan women struggling for peace, freedom, democracy and women's rights in fundamentalism-blighted ...


Watch out, SWC dronebag's neocon political slave masters are THESE DAYS working on supporting radical Al Qaeda groups/ jihadis in secular Syria where women have better rights in a secular society. They did same in Iraq where women had many rights. Did same in Palestine by creating Hamas.
By funding oppression of women, childfren in other countries for "Americans interests", all things are possible.



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Controversial zionist Charles Krauthammer making neocons' case for alliance with Al Qaeda:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIRUeJYFZ94

Obama's $195 Million Aid Package for Al Qaeda-Led Syrian Rebels
www.theblaze.com/.../obamas-195-million-aid-package-for-al-qaeda-led...‎
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[paulbot24]

The picture of Reagan posing with the Taliban and the quote, "These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of our Founding Fathers" is unfortunately wrong. He was actually talking about those nice Contra guerrillas gentlemen in Nicaragua. Hard to say which is weirder. I'm not getting detail picky on you, but when you show this stuff to some people that are awestruck by their televisions and your facts are not PERFECT and they find out they will annihilate you and try to eat you.

[enhanced_deficit]

The picture of Reagan posing with the Taliban and the quote, "These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of our Founding Fathers" is unfortunately wrong. He was actually talking about those nice Contra guerrillas gentlemen in Nicaragua. Hard to say which is weirder. I'm not getting detail picky on you, but when you show this stuff to some people that are awestruck by their televisions and your facts are not PERFECT and they find out they will annihilate you and try to eat you.

How can the photo be "wong", I think you are saying the caption with it is questionable? There are mutiple claims on that but it is probably not a material objecton because that is where you show this video to the nay-sayers:

Ronald Reagan dedicates the Space Shuttle Columbia to the Aghan Jihadis



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqZ-ToXjCz0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLBoXQTBqY

[paulbot24]

I meant the quote was correct, but when he spoke it, he was speaking about the Nicaraguan Contras, and not the Taliban. I should have mentioned that.

[DamianTV]

Mission Accomplished: Destablize the Region and allow chaos to ensue for our next Enemy to arise from the ashes.