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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
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Good to know. Even here in a long established town, with a very high population density, we have a ton of wildlife. I have to suspect that pest damage would be one of the most common types of claims on property insurance. (I have no real knowledge of this - just a guess)
I live in a very rural area. I see roughly 200 times the number of deer a year for every bear I encounter. Not once when I encountered 20 deer feeding on the acorns on my lawn did I think to need to call the kids and the 3 dogs in for fear a deer would get really angry and fight or attack or try to carry one off for lunch.
I'm not disagreeing with the problems created by the sheer POPULATION excess of deer.....and how that leads to more encounters that can damage vehicles and such.
This story is about a woman baiting and animal that has a disposition to occasionally like a good meat meal. I thinks some are being intellectually dishonest about the nature of a deer over a bear
Only on RPF can we get a discussion where people argue that a Deer is more threatening than a bear.
The only reason we are discussing it is because someone latched onto the word I used to create a "Red herring" argument to prove that a woman baiting bears isn't a problem for other property owners.
I'll stop talking about the damn deer now if you all can refute the central point and prove that baiting bears is beneficial for other property owners safety and in their best interest.
Last edited by Todd; 02-01-2014 at 06:32 PM.
Again, look at the number of attacks by black bears. There are several ready lists. People freak out because they are big and have claws, but there's little foundation for it. Looks like most lists I find mention all of four fatal attacks since 2010. Four.
^ Those are way more common.The hunter became the hunted when a Clinton, La., man was attacked by a massive deer he had wounded on his property.
According to Bayou Bucks magazine, Bobby Neames was airlifted to a Baton Rouge hospital and nearly bled to death after the buck gored him through his left thigh on Christmas Eve.
So you can cut the "only on RPFs" part of things. It's stupid.If you ask most folks what's the most dangerous wild animal in North America, you’d probably get an array of answers ranging from grizzly bears to rattlesnakes.
Chances are the whitetail deer wouldn’t rank high on the guess list.
Yet that’s where deer rate – the No. 1 cause of injuries and deaths to humans every year.
That's neither here nor there, though, and I did not argue she was doing some kind of service to her neighbors. My question, though, is whether people have stopped to consider that removing her and not addressing the animals themselves creates a much greater danger.
Last edited by MelissaWV; 02-01-2014 at 06:37 PM.
Depends on the property owner, I'd imagine.
Oyarde, how would you feel about your neighbors baiting animals for you? LOL..
I'm sure the lady isn't specifically trying to bait bears. One most likely just traveled up or down a stream and stumbled upon her bird feeder. If the animal was an issue, you cannot tell me that there is not someone who would take care of that issue. The police would come, or animal wildlife to tranquilize and if negligible, bill her for the services. Or someone hungry would shoot it for food etc.
To lock a possibly senile elderly person up, for feeding animals, without bail, is far into "excessive." Who knows if she just doesn't have anybody else and likes the squirrels and birds? When she dies from the stress of being caged, or from staph, or any other thing, as a society it should be asked, was it worth it? I'd argue no.
Baiting deer used to consist of taking a 5# tin of government peanut-butter, you know the really greasy $#@! back in the early 70's, and smearing it on a downed tree then pressing sweet-feed into it...
Sit in the truck 30-50 yrds back and sip beer and listen to the radio as the sun came up...The deer didn't care, it's like the more racket we made the more at ease they got...Wait 'till everyone had a bead and drop the hammer.
Now-a-days they'll send in the goon squad..
God bless that there is some sanity left in this country.
Instead of putting down a perhaps nuisance animal and feeding the hungry, they'd sooner imprison an elderly woman. They'll probably shoot this bear later, the next time it comes back. And poor bleach on the meat. That what I just said is even possible, if not probable, is a sign of the times. I can't wait to have a few dozen acres, at least.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
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I like possums. There's one that's hung around my house and I see him/her late at night sometimes. I don't mind throwing him some salad scraps to enjoy in the dark on occasion.Originally Posted by MelissaWV
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
It's worth noting that Hillsborough Sheriff online shows no matches to her name as a jail inmate that I can find.
eta: wrong county, she's in Highlands County.
Last edited by devil21; 02-02-2014 at 03:55 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
double post
Last edited by devil21; 02-02-2014 at 03:48 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
What??? and they didn't shoot the bears in the name of officer safety?
The quality of some of these PD's is really dropping...
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SCRATCH THAT - WAS SEARCHING WRONG COUNTY
Dunno what to make of it. Their website is kinda clunky and not intuitive. Searches for current inmates and past arrests don't return anything in her name that I can find. I could be looking in the wrong county or something though.
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update: She's listed in Highlands County sheriff online arrests. Pending charges: Probation violation, resisting arrest, assault on LEO. Looks like she's still in jail.
Last edited by devil21; 02-02-2014 at 03:55 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Update on this story....still in jail, pending court ordered mental evaluation:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...m_hp_ref=crime
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
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