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    Future Gypsy cop: Officer Who Fired on Runaway Family's Minivan Fired

    Police officer dismissed after shooting at minivan with five children inside.
    http://news.yahoo.com/video/officer-...011603775.html


    SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — The New Mexico State Police officer who fired shots at a minivan full of children during a chaotic October traffic stop has been fired, a spokesman with the law enforcement agency said Friday.

    Lt. Emmanuel Gutierrez, a State Police spokesman, said he confirmed with State Police Chief Pete Kassetas that Officer Elias Montoya was no longer employed by the department. Montoya's termination was effective at 5 p.m. Friday.

    Montoya has 30 days to appeal his firing to the Public Safety Advisory Commission, which is made up of civilians appointed by the governor. Montoya, who had been with the department for about 12 years, doesn't have a listed phone number.

    The officer was placed on administrative leave with pay earlier this week following an investigation into the shooting outside the northern New Mexico tourist town of Taos. On Tuesday, he was notified that the agency proposed to fire him, and Kassetas, in consultation with Department of Public Safety Secretary Gorden Eden, made the final decision after a disciplinary hearing Thursday.

    Gutierrez issued a brief statement on the firing, but agency rules call for no additional public comment because it's a personnel matter that can be appealed.

    Chad Pierce, president of the New Mexico State Police Association, has said the union will make sure "due process is followed" and that Montoya receives a fair disciplinary hearing.
    http://news.yahoo.com/mexico-officer...002423553.html
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    He will resurface somewhere. We will find out after he shoots someone's teenage kid.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    He will resurface somewhere. We will find out after he shoots someone's teenage kid.
    Isn't there a town in Florida that is known for that $#@!?

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    ...seemed eager to engage the suspect(s) rather than wait and be too late to have any effect on the situation. (a good thing in the right job)
    ...might make a good candidate for federal reserve chairman or local swat commander to get more action going.
    ...sell more newspapers / YouTube hits.
    ...action figure toy for kids, movie deal or TV series.

    Campaign slogan suggestion if running for POTUS or sound bite for political debate opponents: "Cut 'em if they stand, shoot 'em if they run!"

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    Krypteia or crypteia (douchebag: κρυπτεία / krupteía, from κρυπτός / kruptós, "hidden, secret things") was a tradition involving young police officers, part of the STATE (classical douchebag) regime of tyranny education. Its goal and nature are still a matter of discussion among historians.

    Young Police Officers who had completed their training at the STATE with such success that they were marked out as potential future leaders would be given the opportunity to test their skills and prove themselves worthy of the Police Department through participation in the krypteia.

    Every autumn, according to Mundanus (Life of Mundane, 00, 0–0), the Police ephors (classical Douchebag Ἔφοροι) would pro forma declare war on the Mundane population so that any Officer citizen could kill a Mundane without fear of blood guilt. The kryptes were sent out into the countryside with only a knife, gun, body armor, badge and back-up to survive on their skills and cunning with the instructions to kill any Mundane and their dog they encountered at night and to take any food they needed.

    According to Mundanus, Krypteia members stalked the Mundane villages and surrounding countryside, spying on the servile population. Their mission was to root-out potential sedition. Troublesome Mundanes could be summarily executed. Such brutal oppression of the Mundanes permitted the Police to control the agrarian population and devote themselves to war-on-everything practice. It may also have contributed to the Police reputation for stealth since an Officer who got caught was punished by Paid vacation, parade and great pension.

    Only Officers who had served in the Krypteia as young men could expect to achieve the highest ranks in Police society and Local army. It was felt that only those Officers who showed the ability and willingness to kill for the state at a young age were worthy to join the leadership in later years.


    Some scholars (Anti-Federalist) consider the krypteia to be a kind of secret police force organized by the ruling classes of STATE and targeted at the servile Mundane population that economically supported it. Others believe it to be a military training, similar to the Actual military training. Anti-Federalist points out that this bushranger life has no common point with the disciplined and well-ordered communal life of the Police Officer; but as it is only a short part in a very long and thorough training, this could precisely fit an additional skill only rarely useful when separated from one's unit. Anti-Federalist suggests that the krypteia was a rite of passage, possibly pre-dating the classical Police organisation, and may have been preserved through Police legendary religious conservatism. He draws comparison with the initiation rituals of some Nazi secret societies (Pig-men and Boar men).
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    Last edited by aGameOfThrones; 12-08-2013 at 05:45 PM.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

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    Future Gypsy cop you predict?

    When footage of New Mexico State Police Officer Elias Montoya firing at the rear tires of a fleeing minivan carrying a woman and her five children was broadcast on national television, it was not long before he found himself out of a job.
    But Monday (March 16), Montoya was wearing a badge again.
    The veteran law enforcement officer, who became the unlikely subject of national media attention after an October 2013 shooting, is among the Taos County Sheriff’s newest deputies.
    And in an exclusive interview with The Taos News during his first day on the job, Montoya said he is resolved to serve in law enforcement again.
    But is the community ready for him?
    Taos County Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe says "Yes."
    http://www.taosnews.com/news/article...2725278bf.html

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    At the end of the news story : "Comments have been disabled."

    I'm starting to see this more and more with these sorts of stories -- can't have the little people discussing these things. Anti-cop sentitment is building so fast that the shills can't always drown out the negative comments, so, no more commenting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    At the end of the news story : "Comments have been disabled."

    I'm starting to see this more and more with these sorts of stories -- can't have the little people discussing these things. Anti-cop sentitment is building so fast that the shills can't always drown out the negative comments, so, no more commenting.
    It hasn't gone unnoticed by me either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    At the end of the news story : "Comments have been disabled."

    I'm starting to see this more and more with these sorts of stories -- can't have the little people discussing these things. Anti-cop sentitment is building so fast that the shills can't always drown out the negative comments, so, no more commenting.
    This is true, and bodes not well for any republic.

    "It is so difficult to draw a clear line of separation between the abuse and the wholesome use of the press, that as yet we have found it better to trust the public judgment, rather than the magistrate, with the discrimination between truth and falsehood. And hitherto the public judgment has performed that office with wonderful correctness." --Thomas Jefferson to M. Pictet, 1803.

    "[This is] a country which is afraid to read nothing, and which may be trusted with anything, so long as its reason remains unfettered by law." --Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Milligan, 1816.

    "Since truth and reason have maintained their ground against false opinions in league with false facts, the press confined to truth needs no other legal restraint. The public judgment will correct false reasonings and opinions on a full hearing of all parties, and no other definite line can be drawn between the inestimable liberty of the press and its demoralizing licentiousness. If there be still improprieties which this rule would not restrain, its supplement must be sought in the censorship of public opinion." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805.
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