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Thread: Campaign Evaluation: Mark Bircher (U.S. House, FL-13) - campaign ended

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by neverseen View Post
    Yup. So now what? Less than 1 month until vote day.
    We could request the poll be put up.

    Also post any articles you have in their own thread in the candidates section. Ground game in that Florida District is the most important with so little time.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    We could request the poll be put up.

    Also post any articles you have in their own thread in the candidates section. Ground game in that Florida District is the most important with so little time.
    Yah, get up whatever we can. Money is rolling in fast with the West endorsement. He also just released 4 new TV ad's today on issues.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    Allen West endorses Mark Bircher: http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/want-f...-mark-bircher/

    Before anyone blows up, keep in mind West is probably endorsing him because he is a Brigadier General and doesn't care about much else.
    Really? Because he sure didn't like Ron Paul. And it's hard for me to see how he would endorse a Ron Paul guy over others who are more like himself. How do we know Bircher's the real deal?

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Really? Because he sure didn't like Ron Paul. And it's hard for me to see how he would endorse a Ron Paul guy over others who are more like himself. How do we know Bircher's the real deal?
    See Bircher's responses to this Republican Liberty Caucus questionnaire:

    https://rlctb.org/florida-cd-13-cand...ire-responses/

    I doubt Allen West knew about his views on drone strikes, NDAA, NSA, etc otherwise he wouldn't have endorsed him.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by tsai3904 View Post
    See Bircher's responses to this Republican Liberty Caucus questionnaire:

    https://rlctb.org/florida-cd-13-cand...ire-responses/

    I doubt Allen West knew about his views on drone strikes, NDAA, NSA, etc otherwise he wouldn't have endorsed him.
    Thanks, that was great.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by tsai3904 View Post
    See Bircher's responses to this Republican Liberty Caucus questionnaire:

    https://rlctb.org/florida-cd-13-cand...ire-responses/

    I doubt Allen West knew about his views on drone strikes, NDAA, NSA, etc otherwise he wouldn't have endorsed him.
    Knowing West, he saw Brig. General and started typing his article.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    Knowing West, he saw Brig. General and started typing his article.
    Well, it's working. His donation streem is blowing up, his facebook likes more than doubled overnight, and all the sudden there are dozens and dozens of local articles covering him. He was 10 points behind in the first poll when he was an unknown. In the mean time, the two leaders are TRASHING each other with smears and stuff. It's CRAZY how nasty they are getting... meanwhile Bircher is sticking to the issues and catching on like a wild fire.

    4 weeks until election. He's meeting with some big $$$ liberty groups for potential endorsement. We'll know soon if he gets the huge money or not... In the mean time, he's running ads of the donations he's getting. I gave $250 so far. What do you have?

  10. #38
    Someone spreading the word over at the Daily Paul:

    http://www.dailypaul.com/308298/us-m...the-r3volution
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Someone spreading the word over at the Daily Paul:

    http://www.dailypaul.com/308298/us-m...the-r3volution

    Yah, I just got a text telling me to check out the daily paul thread!! LOVE IT!!! Come on RPF... Let's get on board!

  12. #40
    Mark Bircher for Congress was on the Liberty Underground Show yesterday. The link starts with his interview:

    Thoughts on the interview?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...h4YgV9c#t=4479



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by neverseen View Post
    Mark Bircher for Congress was on the Liberty Underground Show yesterday. The link starts with his interview:

    Thoughts on the interview?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...h4YgV9c#t=4479
    It's long!

    My impressions:

    Mixed bag. Hard to tell where he would stand on some issues. He repeated his answer of "you'll know it when you see it" many times. Paraphrased example - Q: Federal or State issue. A: You'll know it when you see it. It didn't seem like he has a "liberty" background as much as maybe a Constitutional/Tea Party background.

    Military is his priority, as would be expected with his background.
    He wants wars to be declared.
    He couldn't really answer the question about whether we should leave Afghanistan.
    He said he would defer to experts on economic solutions at one point. The question is, which "experts"? Goldman Sachs? Bill Gates? Warren Buffet? Ron Paul?
    Even though we are in debt, he still supports foreign aid if he feels it is in the US interest.
    Pot and gay marriage, he evaded the issues.
    A lot of answers were, "I'll have to wait and see when I get to Washington."
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    Allen West endorses Mark Bircher: http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/want-f...-mark-bircher/

    Before anyone blows up, keep in mind West is probably endorsing him because he is a Brigadier General and doesn't care about much else. Hopefully this endorsement helps get Bircher attention.
    After listening to the long interview, West probably knows him a bit better that that.

    Not saying he's terrible, but the guy seems like he would be more Ted Cruz than Ron Paul.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    After listening to the long interview, West probably knows him a bit better that that.

    Not saying he's terrible, but the guy seems like he would be more Ted Cruz than Ron Paul.
    You can tell he's new to politics and doesn't know how to answer a lot of questions in an interview. I'm still VERY happy with him between the questionnaire and the interview. The difference between tea party and liberty...? Tea party people want everything legislated at the federal level (no gay marriage, no abortions, death to muslims) but the liberty guys want us to follow the constitution and only use the federal government for it's most basic purposes. This seems to be Bircher's stance. I couldn't care less his view on abortion or gay marriage since he's for directing it to the states. It's a moot point. He's against the drug war, etc. Can't beat that. All around he's one of the better candidates running in any federal race right now...

  17. #44
    I've had the good fortune to meet General Bircher and he is the genuine article. His interviewing skills could use some crispness and polish, but IMO he is a diamond in the rough, and a GREAT shot in the arm to the Liberty Movement.

    He has an unmatched record of service; a humble and honorable man who would represent Florida CD-13 well in Congress. Let's get this man elected!!

    http://bircherforcongress.com/

  18. #45
    Mailed my ballot in for Bircher today! Fingers crossed.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by CG1976 View Post
    Mailed my ballot in for Bircher today! Fingers crossed.
    Endorsed by the Republican Liberty Caucus:
    http://rlc.org/article/rlc-endorses-...ecial-election

    Endorsed by Liberty Tampa Bay:
    http://libertytampabay.com/liberty-t...ion/#more-1327

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by neverseen View Post

    Another endorsement: Combat Veterans for Congress Pac: http://combatveteransforcongress.org/cand/3030

  21. #48
    Allen West was kind enough to mail this to just about everyone in the county (GOP) the day before early voting started (yesterday).






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  23. #49


    Debate forum with Mark and front runner Jolly. They had about 3 news cameras there and about 7 small cameras there filming the event.

  24. #50
    This is the first time I ever heard of him. He's certainly checking all the boxes with that questionnaire he answered.

    1. Is he trustworthy?

    2. Is he polished?

  25. #51
    Wasn't there a big Ron Paul group from Clearwater Florida, which is in this district? I'd like to hear their take on Bircher.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by neverseen View Post
    Mark Bircher for Congress was on the Liberty Underground Show yesterday. The link starts with his interview:

    Thoughts on the interview?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...h4YgV9c#t=4479
    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    This is the first time I ever heard of him. He's certainly checking all the boxes with that questionnaire he answered.

    1. Is he trustworthy?

    2. Is he polished?
    Listen to that interview and give us your impression.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    This is the first time I ever heard of him. He's certainly checking all the boxes with that questionnaire he answered.

    1. Is he trustworthy?

    2. Is he polished?
    1. Yes.

    2. No, but getting better every day. Listen to the Liberty Underground interview and then the Candidate Forum that was 1.5 weeks later. He still struggles on Yes/No foreign policy answers and wants to analyze every detail as you can expect a general would.

    Wasn't there a big Ron Paul group from Clearwater Florida, which is in this district? I'd like to hear their take on Bircher.
    Yes, and out of it we formed the RLC of Tampa Bay. I am vice-chair. We are all supporting Bircher.
    Endorsed by LTB which us Ron Paul people formed: http://libertytampabay.com/liberty-t...ion/#more-1327
    Endorsed by RLCTB via RLC which us Ron Paul people formed: http://rlc.org/article/rlc-endorses-...ecial-election

    More vids:



  28. #54
    neverseen, are you getting mailers from the other candidates too? Signs? How does it look on the ground?

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    neverseen, are you getting mailers from the other candidates too? Signs? How does it look on the ground?
    There's a handful of signs from each campaign out there. Not a lot of focus on signs from what I can see. Peters' does have a couple huge ones around town.

    Mailers from Peters' are all attacks only on Jolly. They highlight that he is an insider and donated $30,000 to dems.

    Mailers from Jolly are all attacks only on Peters. They highlight her lack of clarity on the issues such as obamacare.

    Mailers from Bircher went out with mail ballots. They were probircher mailers, no attacks. Allen West sent the mailer pictured above (perfect timing) on Friday, the day before early voting began (today through the 12th).

    Peters' has some walkers and a seemingly averagely managed campaign and a decent amount of money. She raised in the 6 figures and has a decent amount left.

    Jolly has a really well managed campaign and a lot of money. He probably has about 100k on hand. They are doing phone calls.

    Bircher has grassroots supports and a media team that is working on his mailers and tv ads. The grassroots is more or less managing the campaign at this time. He is mostly self funded with about $40,000 invested of the $60,000 or so total raised. 2 weeks before election day he has about 10k left.

  30. #56
    Do you think if you wrote letters to the editors of the local newspapers in support of Bircher they would go out on time?



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    Do you think if you wrote letters to the editors of the local newspapers in support of Bircher they would go out on time?
    Wouldn't hurt to try. We have one that's from the RLC Chair that will be sent in.

    Guys, watch this part of the video about drones. Tell me this alone is worth a donation. Use the link so it takes you to the time stamp.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3P5slcnAU#t=1944
    Last edited by neverseen; 01-04-2014 at 08:09 PM.

  33. #58
    RLC just put this out about Jolly and Bircher:
    https://www.facebook.com/RLCTB/posts...if_t=notify_me

    Read more at the link above...
    “Do you want a Washington lobbyist as your Congressman?”

    Repeat it, over and over. Because you know Alex Sink will. And she has a lot more money than any primary candidate David Jolly now faces. Regrettably, she will probably have enough money to say “Washington Lobbyist” enough times that she will hold on to her lead in the polls through Election Day.

    We need to level the playing field.
    Last edited by neverseen; 01-04-2014 at 08:30 PM.

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  35. #60
    Final poll is out!

    Within striking distance!

    Jolly:36.5%
    Bircher:26.3%
    Peters:23.9%
    Undecided:13.3%

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/198248277/...13-GOP-Primary

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