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    Raise Minimum wage to $30 per hour

    Then let people work in the field that they want. Income equality achieved. The only problem with the concept is people will avoid jobs that require accountability. Why accept responsibility if you can work a meaningless position. I remember in the early 1990's I went into several fast food restaurants and ordered myself on a touch screen mechanism. Soon robots will take the order and cook the food.



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    $#@! that issue million dollar checks to every citizen and unlimited EBT cards.


    We deserve it.

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    Zimbabwe FTW!
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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Why accept responsibility if you can work a meaningless position.
    That's a valid question, to an extent. Some low pay jobs are sooo boring and the time goes by sooo slowly that it's worth taking on extra responsibility, to an extent.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

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    long as i get a BIG BUMP2!
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Working for the DMV seems boring also but those people socialize and talk to each other without a care that you wait hours. Pay the burger cashier more and see how long that fast food takes to get.
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    That's a valid question, to an extent. Some low pay jobs are sooo boring and the time goes by sooo slowly that it's worth taking on extra responsibility, to an extent.

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    Raise Minimum wage to $30 per hour

    That's about where it should be.

    Closer there than where it is now if you account for inflation.

    We are all being hosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Soon robots will take the order and cook the food.
    Where's my robot?

    Where's my flying car?

    Can I use my robot to be my chauffeur for my flying car?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Soon robots will take the order and cook the food.
    Good, robots can't misplace joints in cheeseburgers.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-hour-Employee

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Good, robots can't misplace joints in cheeseburgers.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-hour-Employee
    They say they'll become self aware someday:


    BTW, where's fisharmor?

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    I'll see that $30 and raise you $30

    $60 is the magic number for prosperity/equality!

    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Desmond View Post
    Where's my robot?

    Where's my flying car?

    Can I use my robot to be my chauffeur for my flying car?

    I GOTS ONE SWEEPN MY FLOORS!
    EVERY
    DAY
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Socialist lies, lowering it to a $0.50 minimum wage and busting unions will free the people!

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    You wanna free the people? Free the currency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Then let people work in the field that they want. Income equality achieved. The only problem with the concept is people will avoid jobs that require accountability. Why accept responsibility if you can work a meaningless position. I remember in the early 1990's I went into several fast food restaurants and ordered myself on a touch screen mechanism. Soon robots will take the order and cook the food.
    I don't think it has much to do with "accountability." I'm sure fast food workers need to be highly accountable. But I think you are correct in your assessment of an avoidance of higher paying jobs. Perhaps someone who has the skills and determination in today's market to pay for and earn a masters degree in computer science might be satisfied to blow off the education and sacrifice and work for the $30 minimum wage since he/she would presumably have less incentive. In a free and competitive market, there will be labor to be performed that has all ranges of marginal revenue product (i.e. value to producers). Producers hire labor until the marginal revenue product of the last worker hired diminishes to the prevailing market wage. So, in this case, no one whose skill set contributes less than $30 in revenue to the producer will be hired. Everyone whose skill set is less than $30 becomes unemployed. For those with skill sets that exceed the $30 minimum wage, it is completely irrelevant to both them and the producers seeking their skill set(the minimum wage is irrelevant in Google's recruitment of engineers). Income equality will not be achieved, because many in society will have a skill set that exceeds the minimum wage, and all those below will have an income of zero.
    Last edited by anaconda; 12-06-2013 at 11:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Then let people work in the field that they want. Income equality achieved. The only problem with the concept is people will avoid jobs that require accountability. Why accept responsibility if you can work a meaningless position. I remember in the early 1990's I went into several fast food restaurants and ordered myself on a touch screen mechanism. Soon robots will take the order and cook the food.
    the only problem, lol, you're assuming there aren't masochistic people who have nothing better to do but take responsibility, blame, and volunteer to waste their time for fun.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2 View Post
    I'll see that $30 and raise you $30

    $60 is the magic number for prosperity/equality!

    /s
    $60?

    Pffft....

    If 60 is good, then 70 has GOT to be better.

    I'll raise you another $10.

    Also, if our money is based on debt, then it only follows that the more debt you have, the richer you are.

    So we should also raise the debt ceiling to at least a bizzillion dollars.

    How about a nation wide window breaking campaign?

    Just think how rich we could all be if we simply broke every window in the country.

    The world would be our oyster!

    +rep



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