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    Exclamation Bill Kristol urges Israel to go to war with Iran

    No Deal

    Dec 2, 2013, Vol. 19, No. 12 • By WILLIAM KRISTOL

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articl...al_768038.html

    As we go to press, the Obama administration seems to be hurtling towards a bad deal with Iran. The administration will claim the agreement freezes and indeed sets back the Iranian nuclear program. But even the New York Times acknowledges that “only some elements are frozen, and rollbacks in the initial agreement are relatively minor” and can be easily reversed. Furthermore, the “deal” would mean the United States would retreat from its previous clear red line—one embodied in repeated U.N. Security Council resolutions—of requiring that Iran stop enrichment. It would allow Iran to move ever closer to nuclear weapons while getting significant sanctions relief. Some deal! In truth, it’s not a deal in the usual meaning of the term. It’s an accommodation. It’s a way for the Obama administration to avoid confronting Iran, and to buy time to acclimate the world to accepting a nuclear Iran.

    What will the Obama administration’s leading lights say when this becomes obvious? When he sees his grand diplomatic achievement crumbling around him, will Secretary of State John Kerry join his counterpart, Health and Human Services secretary Kathleen Sebelius, in sighing and exclaiming with pithy eloquence, “Uh-oh”? Will President Barack Obama offer the same apology to the Israelis that he has to Americans who held insurance policies they liked: “I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me”? As the implementation of the Iran agreement goes the way of the implementation of Obamacare, will his reaction be to say, “We’re going to have to, obviously, re-market and re-brand”?

    The president and his colleagues will presumably say these sorts of things. But of course it will be too late. Congress can legislate to try to make up for the failure of Obama’s assurances about health insurance, and to try to help Americans get their old policies back. But Congress won’t be able to legislate to undo a nuclear Iran. The American people can ignore Obama’s efforts to re-market and re-brand Obamacare, and instead insist on its repeal. But the American people won’t be able to repeal Iran’s nuclear weapons once Iran has them.

    That’s why serious people, in Congress and outside, will do their utmost to expose and scuttle Obama’s bad Iran deal. They can expect to be smeared by the Obama administration as reckless warmongers and slandered by Obama’s media epigones as tools of the Israel lobby. One trusts at least some members of Congress and some political leaders are made of stern enough stuff to resist the attempted intimidation.

    But one can’t be optimistic about their chances for success in scuttling the deal. And one can’t be optimistic that the Obama administration will reverse course at the eleventh hour. Which means the last, best hope for stopping the Iranian regime from having nuclear weapons may well lie in a deus ex machina (if one may be permitted to use a pagan phrase for a Jewish state).

    It is Israel, not the great American superpower, that may well have to act to thwart Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

    And so the democratically elected leader of Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, will have to weigh his choices, with the burden of history on his mind and the judgment of future generations in his thoughts.

    Last week was the 150th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. Many commentators mentioned the irony of Lincoln’s saying that his brief remarks would soon be forgotten. There was indeed irony, an intended irony, in the statement. But Lincoln’s tribute to those who fought, and his elevation of their deeds above his speech, isn’t ironic:

    But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be here dedicated to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.

    Lincoln’s speech at Gettysburg will be studied as long as people care about the American experiment in self-government, or about political greatness. But Lincoln knew as well as anyone that speech has to be supported by deeds. It was the soldiers’ hard-won victory in the battle of Gettysburg that was the precondition for Lincoln’s remarks, and for America’s “new birth of freedom.” So Lincoln was telling the plain but deep truth when he emphasized, and gave priority to, “what they did here.” In politics, deeds matter. Speech, even the most eloquent and thoughtful speech, is not enough.

    Benjamin Netanyahu understands this. Jewish history, and not just Jewish history, teaches this lesson. Netanyahu may well judge that he has to act to stop the Iranian regime from getting nuclear weapons. If he does, then Israel will fight. And Israel will be right.



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    Perhaps Kristol should go die for Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    Perhaps Kristol should go die for Israel.
    I'll loan him my pistol on the condition that it be returned or replaced when (not if) he catches a bullet invading Iran with his buddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    Perhaps Kristol should go die for Israel.
    nah...he's sacrificed enough already.

    his integrity
    his soul
    his humanity

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    Kristol is sounding like little broken android. How did the intervention in Iraq turn out Kristol? This part was hilarious.
    Benjamin Netanyahu understands this. Jewish history, and not just Jewish history, teaches this lesson. Netanyahu may well judge that he has to act to stop the Iranian regime from getting nuclear weapons. If he does, then Israel will fight. And Israel will be right.
    He means the same Netanyahu that made a fool of himself at the UN speech with his red line? lol.

    he has to act to stop the Iranian regime from getting nuclear weapons.
    I wonder how does Kristol feel about the Saudi Arabian and Israel alliance?
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 11-23-2013 at 11:30 AM.

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    Oy vey. That Bill Kristol is meshuggeneh.
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    I would like nothing better than to load in a helicopter: Kristol, Beck, Hannity and even the MSNBC hosts who pretended to be against war only when Bush was in power. Fly them over Iran, give 'em a helmet and a gun and kick their asses out.

    You wanna fight MFers? Then fight!

    I say this as someone who once fell for their BS propaganda and enlisted to do just that.

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    Right, Kristol- bomb away on Iran, the state that has followed through with the NPT agreement while surrounded with countries that have not and still have nukes: Israel, India, and Pakistan.
    There is no spoon.



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    Good article!

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...-hater/William Kristol: Israel-Hater

    Daniel McAdams

    Not feeling at all chastened over his role in pushing the US into war in Iraq based on his lies and those of his neoconservative allies, William Kristol has now taken to the pages of his Weekly Standard to peddle more lies to push Israel into a war of its own. Kristol, whose teeth you can literally hear gnashing in his latest furious missive, is desperately egging Israel on to attack Iran and thereby unleash what will no doubt be mass mayhem and carnage throughout the region, including on Israel itself.

    What is driving Kristol mad is that the P5+1 talks with Iran suddenly hold some promise of an agreement being reached this weekend. Foreign ministers from Russia, China, the UK, and elsewhere are flying in to Geneva in anticipation. Kristol suddenly finds himself trapped in a bunker with nothing but a loaded gun of lies and hyperbole — and he is trigger-happy.

    The Iranians are being permitted by the Obama administration to cross a “red line” if they are allowed to continue enriching uranium for peaceful purposes, Kristol writes. This is his biggest lie, of course, as under Article IV of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) Iran has every right to continue enriching uranium to whatever level it wishes as long is none is diverted to arm weapons. That is a right granted to countries that have played by the rules and agreed to the international treaty. In truth, the countries seeking to prevent the exercise of that right that are the ones in violation.

    In his article, titled “No Deal,” Kristol writes that he trusts that some Members of Congress will be “made of stern enough stuff to resist the attempted intimidation” of the administration and withstand the slings and arrows of being called “tools of the Israel lobby.” These Members who are brave enough to resist being tarred by association with the “Israel lobby” must “do their utmost to expose and scuttle” the Administration’s attempt to take a first step toward peacefully resolving the 34 year conflict with Iran.

    Yet still Kristol is terrified. Even this might not be enough to scuttle the deal, he fears. No, something else must happen — something dramatic — to prevent steps toward a peaceful resolution with Iran. And he knows just the thing: war!

    Writes Kristol:

    [T]he last, best hope for stopping the Iranian regime from having nuclear weapons may well lie in a deus ex machina (if one may be permitted to use a pagan phrase for a Jewish state). It is Israel, not the great American superpower, that may well have to act to thwart Iran’s nuclear ambitions. And so the democratically elected leader of Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, will have to weigh his choices, with the burden of history on his mind and the judgment of future generations in his thoughts.

    If his own country is too cowardly to launch another war based on lies and manipulation, Kristol avers, then it will have to be up to Israel to alone light the Middle East on fire.

    Netanyahu may well judge that he has to act to stop the Iranian regime from getting nuclear weapons. If he does, then Israel will fight. And Israel will be right.

    Kristol smugly, from the comfort of his plush, heavily-subsidized magazine office, calls Israel to start a war that will without question result in hundreds of thousands of casualties including in Israel itself. There is no telling what kinds of unconventional, asymmetric retaliation that Israeli civilians would face if Israel listens to the American neocons. But for Kristol war is always the answer — as long as he doesn’t have to do any of the fighting or suffering.

    One thing is sure, with friends like William Kristol, Israel doesn’t need enemies…
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    i've got a bad feeling about this

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    Third times the charm Kristol? You know it's going to be a Kristol column when it starts out with WAR. Kristol is a big backer of the MEK (Mujahideen-e-Khalq), the terrorist organization which is; funded, trained, and armed by, well, you know, the USUAL SUSPECTS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObiRandKenobi View Post
    i've got a bad feeling about this
    My favorite Han Solo quote!
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    I always found it interesting that a country with 300 nukes, that won't submit to searches tries to pressure the country with no nukes to submitting for searches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillo View Post
    I always found it interesting that a country with 300 nukes, that won't submit to searches tries to pressure the country with no nukes to submitting for searches.
    Yeah- go figure.
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