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    Default Major Obama Donor made 155k donation to Libertarian PAC That Funded Sarvis Petition drive

    This just broke.
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    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster



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    dun dun dun dun. I love the puritatians who jumped onto this trojan horse outfit. Too funny. A little cheese works perfectly for a trap...Sarvis originally voted for Cuccinelli as AG to boot but he suddenly switched horses? ROFL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...natorial-race/
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    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Excellent strategy by the Democrats. If I were a Big Government Democrat, I would totally campaign for the Libertarian party.
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    Big L libertarians really need to apply some of the suspicion that they reserve for social conservatives to the embarrassing parade of greeks bearing gifts.

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    Flashback:

    Ron Paul to Virginians: 'Insane' to Vote for 'Libertarian' Robert Sarvis
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Robert-Sarvis
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    Everybody knows libertarians are pure and never play politics or compromise their principle... Only the R and D parties do that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Everybody knows libertarians are pure and never play politics or compromise their principle... Only the R and D parties do that!
    Some libertarians have a nefarious agenda similar the mainstream GOP. The whole Sarvis affair has been proof positive of this. No one did any research on this guy, while at the same time demonizing Cuccinelli as Satan Jr.
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    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    I cant imagine why this would bother a Libertarian. Using your enemies money for good isn't something I have a problem with. If I understand most Libertarians position on Sarvis, it isn't that they think he is a good candidate; but rather to support their party. So this enemies money only help them in that endeavor.

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    Source for anyone claiming anywhere on these boards that their affiliation with the Libertarian party is source to their convictions and principles? I'll wait...

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    Why is this revealed just now? Little too late?
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    This is democrats smartly using the libertarian/neocon division in the GOP to their advantage. The smart counter move for the GOP would be to embrace the libertarian movement and stop treating them like outsiders. If the GOP doesn't stop assaulting libertarians they will continue to lose many races that are winnable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    Source for anyone claiming anywhere on these boards that their affiliation with the Libertarian party is source to their convictions and principles? I'll wait...
    I'll wait for someone to find anywhere where people claim the GOP as the source of their convictions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    This is democrats smartly using the libertarian/neocon division in the GOP to their advantage. The smart counter move for the GOP would be to embrace the libertarian movement and stop treating them like outsiders. If the GOP doesn't stop assaulting libertarians they will continue to lose many races that are winnable.
    The GOP offered absolutely nothing for the L.P. party in exchange for their votes. This could have played out much differently. It was a missed opportunity on the part of the GOP to form a coalition.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The GOP offered absolutely nothing for the L.P. party in exchange for their votes. This could have played out much differently. It was a missed opportunity on the part of the GOP to form a coalition.
    Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The GOP offered absolutely nothing for the L.P. party in exchange for their votes. This could have played out much differently. It was a missed opportunity on the part of the GOP to form a coalition.
    Other than offering a candidate that agreed with much of the LP's platform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrex View Post
    Why is this revealed just now? Little too late?
    Yeah, everyone I have been chatting with are saying the same thing... WHY is this coming out now, on election day? Who's doing the vetting? What took them so long on the background checks? Who forgot to follow the money trails? etc..

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.
    Yes indeed, especially when the pole were showing Sarvis with 13%... that would immediately send a peace offering for a coalition... there's more to all of this than on the surface.

    Wonder if Obama is using the IRS, NSA, DOJ as covert ops for McAwfull? You know what Ron just said last night... "The 'Thugs' in Washington DC..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.
    I don't know. I would have a hard time believing that Ron Paul with his creds couldn't have brokered a deal. Perhaps a bone thrown to the LP to allow them in future debates. Something. It seems to me that it was a forgone conclusion that just having the name of Paul attached would get them their desired results. The LP is a political party. They want more access to the two-party stage. It seems to me a missed opportunity to form a better coalition. I don't think that the GOP is going to accuse the LP of being inconsequential again depending on how this works out.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by compromise View Post
    Other than offering a candidate that agreed with much of the LP's platform?
    The LP is it's own party. They want more access. That is how the game is played. As so many here that claim to know it all constantly impress.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I don't know. I would have a hard time believing that Ron Paul with his creds couldn't have brokered a deal. Perhaps a bone thrown to the LP to allow them in future debates. Something. It seems to me that it was a forgone conclusion that just having the name of Paul attached would get them their desired results. The LP is a political party. They want more access to the two-party stage. It seems to me a missed opportunity to form a better coalition. I don't think that the GOP is going to accuse the LP of being inconsequential again depending on how this works out.
    If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.
    Well, they did view them as inconsequential. If the GOP doesn't win then they are going to have to point the blame somewhere. There was a seven percent voting block that they failed to gain. They probably could have if they went about it right. As to the blame game, I didn't see the L.P. end it's campaign and throw support to the Dems.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.
    You Know,, I could really give a $#@! about what Republicans think..

    I have seen enough to know that I want nothing to do with them,, and these $#@!ing threads are pushing me to become militant in my hatred.

    Reagan,, Created FEMA,, promoted Socialized Health Care,, increased the Police State,, (War on Drugs)
    G Bush I,, "Read My Lips" ,, "New World Order",, He was $#@!ing CIA for Gods sake
    G BUSH II,, War,, Lies and WAR,, Gave us the TSA and the Patriot Act.


    Certainly not a full list of accomplishments,,
    Oh,, and the last two presidential candidates,, McCain and Romney. @puke
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankRep View Post
    If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.

    One of the reasons why to most people, I will not describe myself as a libertarian (even though the views I hold are most closely aligned with that ideology). The stench of the LP is not one I want to have on my person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.
    What is known is that it was Cuccinelli blocking access to Sarvis/LP. That effectively burned any potential bridge-making.

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    dun dun dun dun. I love the puritatians who jumped onto this trojan horse outfit. Too funny. A little cheese works perfectly for a trap...Sarvis originally voted for Cuccinelli as AG to boot but he suddenly switched horses? ROFL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...natorial-race/
    The puritans stayed away from Sarvis, too.
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    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptLouAlbano View Post
    One of the reasons why to most people, I will not describe myself as a libertarian (even though the views I hold are most closely aligned with that ideology). The stench of the LP is not one I want to have on my person.
    That is the way I feel about Republicans.

    I made an exception for Ron... but the Republicans didn't want him either.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    dun dun dun dun. I love the puritatians who jumped onto this trojan horse outfit. Too funny. A little cheese works perfectly for a trap...Sarvis originally voted for Cuccinelli as AG to boot but he suddenly switched horses? ROFL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...natorial-race/
    They don't care about anything except keeping their ballot access. Which might make sense if they ever came remotely close to winning an election.
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    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well, they did view them as inconsequential. If the GOP doesn't win then they are going to have to point the blame somewhere. There was a seven percent voting block that they failed to gain. They probably could have if they went about it right. As to the blame game, I didn't see the L.P. end it's campaign and throw support to the Dems.
    Well, the Libertarians spent mot of their time attacking KC, which is sort of indirect support.

    But the candidates's only job is to win an election. When it comes to laying blame for a loss, it is only on the candidate. People have a right to run against him.

    The GOP moves back and forth on their opinion of the Libertarians. They're either inconsequential, or they're absolutely to blame for everything.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Well, the Libertarians spent mot of their time attacking KC, which is sort of indirect support.

    But the candidates's only job is to win an election. When it comes to laying blame for a loss, it is only on the candidate. People have a right to run against him.

    The GOP moves back and forth on their opinion of the Libertarians. They're either inconsequential, or they're absolutely to blame for everything.
    Same with liberals. First, libertarians are tools of the corporate elite. Next minute, they're losers living in their mom's basement whose ideas would crash the world economy and send us back to the dark ages.
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    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism






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