Is Ted Cruz the "controlled opposition"?

[dillo]

Let me preface this by saying I think Rand Paul is a major contender for the 2016 republican nomination. I dont think Ron ever was considered a big enough contender that the establishment felt threatened. Ron sure made some noise and the movement in the grassroots was remarkable, but for whatever reason you want to list he wasn't a threat(at least until IOWA).

Rand Paul will hold a lot of those people that followed his father, his grassroots will probably be just as good as Ron's and he is a contender. In the past 2 republican primaries Ron was basically on his own for a lot of his views with respect to the other candidates. If the establishment views Rand as a threat isn't establishing a controlled opposition to themselves the next option.

Is Ted Cruz that controlled opposition to siphon the liberty vote off Rand or to discredit his ideas? Or is he just coat tailing off Rands success from the filibuster over domestic drone programs?

[fr33]

I'm just gonna put this here...

[enhanced_deficit]

Having resaerched his character and stances bit more and after seeing today his prayer stunt outside White House for cultivating war with Iran, I have improved my view of him. Ted Cruz does seem like controlled opposition, he acts like a plant of war mongering neocons and a self serving opportunist like Obama.

Shocking that he only prayed for one imprisoned Christian in Iran with press cameras ready and israeli PM's VIP guest kneeling beside him but he forgot to pray for scores of Christians being persecuted in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Palestine by forces of oppression.


Original post:
No

Although some neocon lobbies seem intrested in recruiting him as such. He himself is to blame for this considering the depth of his pandering to war mongering lunatics like CUFI, John Hagee etc. He really ended his future political chances by shamelessly bending down for these nuts.

That said.. For Cruz, CUFI Sunk AUFI

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Put me down as a probably. Voted yes. If he's not controlled he's just a sell out waiting to happen.

[jbauer]

No doubt he is.

[CaptUSA]

Didn't like the options, but I voted no. I don't think he's controlled opposition, but I also don't think he's some great defender of liberty. I see him as a useful ally on many strategic issues. As with all allies, he will falter and waver at some point and it will probably end up hurting a bit, but the benefit far exceeds the cost, IMO.

[JCDenton0451]

Ted Cruz is a self-serving $#@!. That much is certain.

[LibertyEagle]

I don't know. Time will tell. Right now though, he is an ally to Rand on many things.

[cajuncocoa]

I'm just gonna put this here...

1 Retweet and 1 Favorite? Amateur!

[CPUd]

Didn't Ron Paul endorse this guy when Rick Perry and others in the party was backing Dewhurst?

[Bastiat's The Law]

Didn't Ron Paul endorse this guy when Rick Perry and others in the party was backing Dewhurst?

Yes, and he's been a pleasant thorn in the side of the establishment.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Try making a list of the top 5 thorns in the side of the Washington Establishment without Cruz being on that list. After Rand and Amash, Cruz is probably top 3.

[Jeremy]

Why are RPFers conspiracy theorists about everything? We can't have a single ally without him or her being criticized of being some sort of double agent trying to trick us. I mean COME ON PEOPLE, REALLY?

Really though I think this is some sort of bizarre jealousy over Cruz speaking longer than Rand...

[JCDenton0451]

Try making a list of the top 5 thorns in the side of the Washington Establishment without Cruz being on that list. After Rand and Amash, Cruz is probably top 3.

So was Michelle Bachmann, but I would rather have a Republican party without Bachmann.

[Warlord]

Cruz is connected to the establishment via his wife who is a big Bush lover and Goldman's banker.

This filibuster he's doing is futile and he's trying to copy Rand to gain kudos

[FrankRep]

Senator Rand Paul:

Senator Cruz still going! I'm on my way back to help him out this morning. Tune in to hear more about #MakeDCListen

[UtahApocalypse]

This charade that is not a filibuster is absolute proof he is a fraud.

[Jeremy]

This charade that is not a filibuster is absolute proof he is a fraud.

Seriously?

[Warlord]

Seriously?

The vote happens at 1pm whatever so he's not filibustering in reality

[Bastiat's The Law]

Why are RPFers conspiracy theorists about everything? We can't have a single ally without him or her being criticized of being some sort of double agent trying to trick us. I mean COME ON PEOPLE, REALLY?

Really though I think this is some sort of bizarre jealousy over Cruz speaking longer than Rand...

They lack critical thinking.

[SilentBull]

I don't know. Time will tell. Right now though, he is an ally to Rand on many things.

That's how I feel too. I really hope his plan is to use his popularity among Republicans to help Rand win.

[Warlord]

That's how I feel too. I really hope his plan is to use his popularity among Republicans to help Rand win.

No chance. He wants the nomination himself so he can defeat Rand like a smiling assassin.

[Jeremy]

The vote happens at 1pm whatever so he's not filibustering in reality

So that means he's a double agent? HUH?

[JCDenton0451]

So that means he's a double agent? HUH?

He went to great lengths to imitate Rand, clearly aiming for his voters. But this is all a charade! Cruz is no position to stop or delay Obamacare or even have an impact on the debate surrounding Obamacare. And he knows it. This fake filibuster just a long self-promotion stunt for Ted Cruz.

[Jeremy]

He went to great lengths to imitate Rand, clearly aiming for his voters. But this is all a charade! Cruz is no position to stop or delay Obamacare or even have an impact on the debate surrounding Obamacare. And he knows it. This fake filibuster just a long self-promotion stunt for Ted Cruz.

Rand couldn't stop drones either. But even if what you said is true, why does that make him a double agent?

[CaptLouAlbano]

He went to great lengths to imitate Rand, clearly aiming for his voters. But this is all a charade! Cruz is no position to stop or delay Obamacare or even have an impact on the debate surrounding Obamacare. And he knows it. This fake filibuster just a long self-promotion stunt for Ted Cruz.

It is amazing to me that people who spend so much time discussing politics have no idea what is going on. Cruz is running point on defunding Obamacare, if he can get 41 Senators to vote NO on cloture then the House CR will not be stripped apart by Reid with only 51 Dem votes. This has been said time and time again, yet some of you folks have your heads buried so far up your ass that you cannot understand it.

[Warlord]

Rand couldn't stop drones either. But even if what you said is true, why does that make him a double agent?

Rand did an actual filibuster and pissed off Reid.

[Jeremy]

Rand did an actual filibuster and pissed off Reid.

So filibuster = legit,
Long speech = inside job?

[Warlord]

So filibuster = legit,
Long speech = inside job?

No Jeremy. Although it's right to call it a long speech instead of a filibuster

As for Cruz... his wife is major establishment, Goldman's banker and Bush lover.

[Jeremy]

No Jeremy. Although it's right to call it a long speech instead of a filibuster

So he's not controlled opposition despite your vote stating he is?