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    As Syria War Escalates, Americans Cool to U.S. Intervention: Reuters/Ipsos Poll

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97O00E20130825

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    Americans strongly oppose U.S. intervention in Syria's civil war and believe Washington should stay out of the conflict even if reports that Syria's government used deadly chemicals to attack civilians are confirmed, a Reuters/Ipsos poll says.

    About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria's civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.



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    Oh crap... that means the CIA is going to crash some Syrian airplanes into Boston or something. The will of the American people can not be allowed to stop the American empire.
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    It does not matter one WHIT what we want. We saw that with the bank bailouts. 99% of the calls to Washington were against it, but the people were ignored. And in return, the same people were sent back to COngress.

    They're like children. The electorate has taught them that there are no consequences even when they misbehave.

    At this point I think we can only find hope in the fact that they even bother to lie to us.

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    I guess that 9% is composed mostly of members of Congress and their aids, and the U.S media.

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    Not surprising at all.

    When Rand yet again stands in opposition to this it will again reflect well on him and poorly on others.
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    9%. This is a good issue for Rand Paul; plays well both with Ron Paul's base and with the larger GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    9%. This is a good issue for Rand Paul; plays well both with Ron Paul's base and with the larger GOP.
    It should be priority no#1 for "political" Rand & "moral" Rand. But I haven't heard much from him this past week as our pro-war propoganda machine is in full charge mode.

    Come on Rand do the right thing!



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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    It should be priority no#1 for "political" Rand & "moral" Rand. But I haven't heard much from him this past week as our pro-war propoganda machine is in full charge mode.

    Come on Rand do the right thing!
    How about Justin Amash? his parents are from Syria and still he hasn't taken a stand on the conflict. This is while the Syria Christians are being exterminated by the rebels, I just dont get it.

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    Remember, the US government has it's own Corporate AGENDA. When you read the State department declaration, it's always, "In the best interest of the US government" NOT "the best interest of the American people".

    More and more I think about it... Libya plays a huge roll, from the CIA using it as a recruitment and arming centers for terrorists, to weapons distributions in fighting wars. I wonder not only about the 1,000s of so-called missing MPADs, but the Libyan reserve of chemical weapons or starting the production lines back up, for the CIA to use elsewhere in the world.

    It appears the Russians have had enough of the "SEVEN countries in five years" operations

    Russia warns West over 'illegal' Syria intervention

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ervention.html
    Russian foreign minister warns West that military intervention in Syrian conflict without UN Security Council approval would violate international law, as UN inspectors finally arrive at site of last week's suspected chemical weapons attack.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during a press conference in Moscow Photo: EPA
    4:27PM BST 26 Aug 2013
    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters that the use of military force by the West against Assad's regime "without the approval of the UN Security Council is a very grave violation of international law."

    Speaking at a hastily convened news conference, he added that the West was currently moving towards "a very dangerous path, a very slippery path".

    His comments came after William Hague today refused to rule out bombing Assad regime targets within days, warning that the Syrian regime could not be allowed to use chemical weapons against its own people “with impunity”, following an alleged attack last week in which at least 355 people were killed and 3,600 injured.
    Royal Navy vessels are being readied to take part in a possible series of cruise missile strikes, alongside the United States, as military commanders finalise a list of potential targets.


    The Royal Navy's helicopter carrier HMS Illustrious is currently deployed in the Mediterranean (Reuters)




    The British Foreign Secretary said "there is no possible explanation other than that [the alleged chemical attack] has been carried out by the Assad regime".
    But Lavrov told reporters that the West has been unable to produce any evidence to back claims that the Syrian government used chemical weapons.
    "They (the West) have not been able to come up with any proof but are saying at the same time that the red line has been crossed and there can be no delay," Lavrov said.

    Syrian activists with the bodies of some of the victims in Damascus (Reuters)

    Earlier today, UN inspectors finally reached the site of the alleged atrocities in Syria's capital to launch an investigation into last week's suspected chemical weapons attack, meeting doctors and casualties.
    Inspectors had been given the green light to visit the site on Sunday, four days after the alleged attacks, following mounting pressure and accusations of responsibility against President Bashar al-Assad for the strikes from Western countries.
    But the UN experts had been initially forced to abandon their investigation after they were 'deliberately' targeted while travelling in convoy to the site of the alleged atrocities by snipers.
    "The inspectors managed to enter the town of Moadamiyet al-Sham with civilians, and visited the Red Crescent centre where they met doctors," Abu Nadim, an activist in Damascus province, told AFP via Skype earlier today.

    An image taken from a video uploaded on YouTube on August 26, 2013 allegedly
    shows a UN inspector listening to the testimony of a man in the Damascus suburb
    of Moadamiyet al-Sham


    Abu Nadim said the inspectors were wearing helmets and bullet-proof jackets and were accompanied by their own security detail, who carried walkie-talkies.
    The UN team then returned to their hotel in the Syrian capital, declining to make any comment on their almost three-hour visit, according to AFP.
    The UN mission is aimed at determining if a chemical weapons attack actually took place, but will not investigate who was responsible for any attack. Syria has rejected responsibility, in turn accusing the rebels of using chemical arms.

    The UN team is scheduled to investigate the chemical attack in Damascus (AP)

    Lavrov warned that in any case Western intervention on the side of the opposition forces would be a "grave mistake" and scupper any hopes of convening a peace conference to resolve the conflict.
    "If anyone thinks that destroying Syria's military infrastructure and leaving the battleground open for the opposition to take victory would be the end of it, that is an illusion," said Lavrov.

    "Even in case of such a victory, civil war will continue, only the side of the government will be the opposition side."
    After journalists repeatedly asked Lavrov how Russia would react to the possible Western intervention he also said: "We (Russia) do not intend to fight with anyone."

    Lavrov also accused the West of double standards in foreign policy.

    He said: "You cannot fight with a regime only because you don't like the dictator that heads it and then not fight another regime where you like the authoritarian ruler."
    Russia, one of the few remaining allies of Assad, told Syria to cooperate with UN experts investigating reports of a deadly chemical weapons attack on Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    How about Justin Amash? his parents are from Syria and still he hasn't taken a stand on the conflict.
    His PARENTS live there and he is considering wanting the US to intervene?! That's nuts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    How about Justin Amash? his parents are from Syria and still he hasn't taken a stand on the conflict. This is while the Syria Christians are being exterminated by the rebels, I just dont get it.
    It takes balls of steel to buck the most powerfull force on earth (our military) when it's levers are pushed full throttle. They did control 911 after all & then propoganda for Iraq, Libya etc.

    But this is where you find out who is on the right side of humanity & who is a puppet.

    IMO Rand has NO chance of 2016 unless he makes a stand here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    How about Justin Amash? his parents are from Syria and still he hasn't taken a stand on the conflict. This is while the Syria Christians are being exterminated by the rebels, I just dont get it.
    What do you mean? He has taken a stand. He is strongly against. He is a Christian and his church is headquartered in Syria. He said they have been urging him to fight against US intervention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugminator View Post
    What do you mean? He has taken a stand. He is strongly against. He is a Christian and his church is headquartered in Syria. He said they have been urging him to fight against US intervention.
    Krugminator,

    This is very good news, can you provide some sort of link where he states this.

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    At some point,the Russians are going to fight before their actual territory is surrounded.Better to fight over someone elses' land and demonstrate you have the resolve (which might cause the American Empire to think again) rather than wait to be encircled and starved of economic resources over the longer term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Krugminator,

    This is very good news, can you provide some sort of link where he states this.
    Just check his Twitter account.
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