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    John McCain Promises "Most Militarized Border Since the Fall of the Berlin Wall"

    I find this sickening and tragic, but Boobus probably cheers. I don't even know what to say any more. I feel like I am in a constant state of high dudgeon, and it's exhausting.

    John McCain Promises "Most Militarized Border Since the Fall of the Berlin Wall"
    http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/25/jo...militarized-bo

    Bear in mind as you read this: John McCain is trying to argue for the amendment.

    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday said that an amendment advanced by the Senate would leave the U.S. with the "most militarized border" since the fall of the Berlin Wall and pave the way for the passage of comprehensive immigration reform.

    "The legislation concerning beefed up border security removes any validity to the argument that border security is not sufficient," McCain said of the amendment from Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) in an interview on CNN.

    "I mean this is not only sufficient it is well over sufficient. We'll be the most militarized border since the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's why I think this amendment was very important," he added.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    He... wants.... to turn America.... into cold war Berlin... literally....
    It's hard to surprise me these days, but congratulations Sunshine John, you've done it today.
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    He's trolling us. He knows we know that the side of the Berlin Wall he wants us on is East, not West.

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    The man is a serial liar. The drugs and servants will flow. It's the American way.
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    lol.
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    What about those who cross the border legally, then overstay their visas? "Berlin Wall" is not designed to stop them.

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    Think about it for a second. You will never see a secure border in our lifetime. Number #1. The CIA and the investment firms/banks don't want the party to end in terms of the innumerable benefits they are afforded by the illegal drug trade. Number #2 Big Business is never going to kick it's illegal alien addiction. John is simply bloviating because word got out that the Corker amendment is merely an empty gesture in terms of border security.

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    Im sure he will make good on this promise, little do the people know, this wall is to keep us IN.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Think about it for a second. You will never see a secure border in our lifetime. Number #1. The CIA and the investment firms/banks don't want the party to end in terms of the innumerable benefits they are afforded by the illegal drug trade. Number #2 Big Business is never going to kick it's illegal alien addiction. John is simply bloviating because word got out that the Corker amendment is merely an empty gesture in terms of border security.
    Nope, we will see a secure border, only when its time to keep us in, which is...kinda now.

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    LOL of course he says that like its a wonderful thing.. to him(a murderous $#@!), it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZENemy View Post
    Nope, we will see a secure border, only when its time to keep us in, which is...kinda now.
    They have capital controls almost set in place as well as passport restrictions. They don't need a physical border.

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    "The legislation concerning beefed up border security removes any validity to the argument that border security is not sufficient," McCain said of the amendment from Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) in an interview on CNN.

    Okay, is it just me, or are my two senators, Corker and Alexander of TN, not two of the worst most evil numnuts on capital hill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    "The legislation concerning beefed up border security removes any validity to the argument that border security is not sufficient," McCain said of the amendment from Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) in an interview on CNN.

    Okay, is it just me, or are my two senators, Corker and Alexander of TN, not two of the worst most evil numnuts on capital hill?
    oh they are... surprising as I always considered TN a pretty conservative state but I guess the senate has been out of the hands of the states for quite a while now
    The ultimate minority is the individual. Protect the individual from Democracy and you will protect all groups of individuals
    Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. - Thomas Jefferson
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    Just fly,, train, or boat on into the US... then Stay... it's that simply.

    If you're lucky and a hot lookin chick, marry mom's son living the basement, have anchor baby and you're all set. Green Card and Naturalization to follow.

    BTW.. one of the biggest scams going on inside the US are these naturalize citizens/ethnic Americans in their tight little groups, looking out for and now forming "Amnesty Organizations" to help with aliens staying in the US. Mexicans, Central Americans, East Indians, Pakistanis, Russians, Afghanis, whatever, etc etc, it's a huge business. They have all the teams(websites/radio stations/media ads) and legal assistance you need to setup/startup for a permanent stay... of course under the duress of origin persecutions.

    Then it's onto public assistance, welfare state, plus many pool together, then team up in the same locations, bank money and goods together. America used to be about individualism and freedom, now it's collectivism and control.

    Whatever rules/law, walls, guns, guards, drones... won't stop the influx until the Welfare State is addressed.
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    His selling point is a similarity to the Berlin Wall???!?!?!??!?!?!
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    That old fart needs a good, swift kick in the pants, he's probably too old to comprehend much else.

    Whenever someone says to "respect my elders" I always think of people like him and Pelosi.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    "The legislation concerning beefed up border security removes any validity to the argument that border security is not sufficient," McCain said of the amendment from Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) in an interview on CNN.

    Okay, is it just me, or are my two senators, Corker and Alexander of TN, not two of the worst most evil numnuts on capital hill?
    They are clearly both nuts.You are correct.

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    Well if given the choice I prefer our military on our border rather than Iraq's, Syria's or Afghanistan's.

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    Yay? What the hell is wrong with Arizonians to keep electing this guy. Its like he is beta-testing for ultimate tyranny. Does he wake up every morning and says "lets see what terrible thing I can say today and still get re-elected." Even he has to be surprised at this point.

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    “The people that want big fences and guns, sure, we could secure the border. A barbed wire fence with machine guns, that would do the trick. I don’t believe that is what America is all about. Every time you think about this toughness on the border [...] it’s a penalty against the American people too. I think this fence business is designed and may well be used against us and keep us in. In economic turmoil, the people want to leave with their capital and there’s capital controls and there’s people controls. Every time you think about the fence, think about the fences being used against us, keeping us in.”

    Who said this? You get one guess. (If you need more than one, you really don't belong here ...)
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    Exclamation McCain:We’ll make border with Mexico look like ‘the Berlin Wall'.

    I'm sure you will, you fascist $#@!.


    McCain: We’ll make border with Mexico look like ‘the Berlin Wall’

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/2...e-berlin-wall/

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said Tuesday that the Senate should include an amendment for increased border security in its new bipartisan immigration reform bill. In video featured by Talking Points Memo, McCain said that the amendment, proposed by Sens. Bob Corker (R-TN) and John Hoeven (R-ND) would make the border between Mexico and the U.S. into “most militarized border since the fall of the Berlin Wall.”

    McCain said of the amendment, which passed Monday, to CNN, “I think that, first of all, the legislation concerning beefed up border security removes any validity to the argument that border security is not sufficient. I mean, this is not only sufficient, it is well over sufficient. We’ll be the most militarized border since the fall of the Berlin Wall so that’s why I think this amendment was very important.”
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    And they laughed at Jesse and Ron when they said it would be used to keep us in...

    They're not laughing anymore.

    And the walls came down...

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    Don't want to let Al-Qaeda into the US via Mexico! After all, Sen. McCain and Pre. Obama are working their hardest to arm as many Al-Qaeda linked rebels in Syria as possible. It is only a matter of time before Al-Qaeda uses the 100s of millions of US government funding to murder innocent Americas in America.
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    We need a wall on the border to Canada. I am tired of those Canadians sneaking into here and bringing their hockey and maple syrup with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane77m View Post
    We need a wall on the border to Canada. I am tired of those Canadians sneaking into here and bringing their hockey and maple syrup with them.
    No kidding...one snuck in and married me...where was the fence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shane77m View Post
    We need a wall on the border to Canada. I am tired of those Canadians sneaking into here and bringing their hockey and maple syrup with them.
    We have a ton of them in New Hampshire. Even the Interstate signs are in English and French. It isn't right, I tell you! In fact, the main Porcfest food vendor had 2 Canadians working for them. Heck, went on a hike at Porcfest and there was a dang Canadian on the hike! Don't they have mountains in Canada?!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    We have a ton of them in New Hampshire. Even the Interstate signs are in English and French. It isn't right, I tell you! In fact, the main vendor had 2 Canadians working for them. Heck, went on a hike at Porcfest and there was a dang Canadian on the hike! Don't they have mountains in Canada?!!!
    That is funny to me about the English and French. Around here it is English and Spanish. Trying to navigate the ATM at my bank yesterday enraged me slightly when I was trying to decipher the poor screen formatting that was interlaced with English and Spanish directions.

    I can just picture McCain as he said that. I am sure he had a smug look on his face.
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    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...rlin-Wall-quot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    “The people that want big fences and guns, sure, we could secure the border. A barbed wire fence with machine guns, that would do the trick. I don’t believe that is what America is all about. Every time you think about this toughness on the border [...] it’s a penalty against the American people too. I think this fence business is designed and may well be used against us and keep us in. In economic turmoil, the people want to leave with their capital and there’s capital controls and there’s people controls. Every time you think about the fence, think about the fences being used against us, keeping us in.”

    Who said this? You get one guess. (If you need more than one, you really don't belong here ...)
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    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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