NH-TSA "officer" busted for kiddie porn.

[Anti Federalist]

Hat tip to:

Doesn't the NSA now hold the world largest collection of kiddie porn, since it has millions of "sext" messages and camera phone pictures of people engaged in sexual activity that are under 18?



Pedophile or Dedicated “Worker” for the TSA?

Posted by Becky Akers on June 15, 2013 06:05 AM

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...es/139672.html

Despite Our Rulers’ total surveillance of us, their own degeneracy and filth flourishes as if no one, not even a higher Judge, is watching: “A former top officer” at the TSA who’s “worked [sic] for the federal agency since August 2002” “was arrested on child pornography charges after items were seized from his locker at Manchester-Boston Regional Airport” in New Hampshire.

Cops claim that they discovered evidence on Miquel Quinones’ “personal laptop computer and three thumb drives stored in his airport locker.” Seems an odd place to hide your sin. So perhaps the cops are lying yet again, but who cares? When their target is a fellow myrmidon for the satanic state, I sit back and enjoy the spectacle.

Allegedly among the stash was “a video and more than 1,000 images of child pornography…” Ah, so that’s why Quinones kept the stuff at the office, so to speak: he’d simply downloaded the porno-scanners’ photos into his laptop.

You’d think they’d commend the guy for working overtime rather than vilify him as a pedophile. Yo, TSA: kinda tough to tell the difference, isn’t it?

[tangent4ronpaul]

Didn't this guy get the memo about being more careful about what they stole from peoples luggage?

-t

[pcosmar]

Well good,, I guess.

But it does raise questions,,

http://privateofficernews.wordpress....guel-quinones/

Sgt. Thomas Grella, commander of the New Hampshire Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force, said Quinones had been under investigation for more than a year, but could not comment further on the case.
Police were notified by the task force Jan. 2 that Quinones voluntarily turned over his computer and thumb drives, Jones said.

Been under investigation for a year.. Turned over evidence 6 months ago..

And was still on the job? Was just charged Wednesday.

OK this one is a bit different,,
http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS03/130619626

The investigation began Jan. 2 when the Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force (ICAC) notified police that Quinones was being investigated for possessing child pornography.

Quinones voluntarily turned over his personal laptop and three USB thumb drives, which police said he kept in his personal employment locker at the airport, to ICAC investigators.

Londonderry police applied for a search warrant for the computer and thumb drives, while ICAC assisted with the forensic search once the warrants were approved.

On May 23, police received the results of that search which they said found more than 1,000 images and a video of what appeared to be child sexual abuse/pornography on the laptop and thumb drives, according to Londonderry police.

So the got a warrant after he voluntarily turned over the evidence.
and it took all this time to examine them?

and another couple weeks to charge him? All the while,, he was still on the job of feeling up kids.

[Alex Libman]

Legalize kiddy porn.

Outlaw the TSA.

[Elias Graves]

Or is it just another employee who didn't like the way the tsa was running things? It's to the point where I even doubt claims like this at all.

Veterans by the tens of thousands are being adjudicated as "mental defectives" for doing nothing more than arguing a doctor's diagnosis or asking for a second opinion. Once thy happens, they lose all their gun rights.

Once the single payer health system kicks in and we are all required to have an annual physical including lots of questions about your mental health. Are you on anti depressants? You're not safe to own a gun.

Its almost complete, folks. Kiss Freedom goodbye. This is how it ends.

[pcosmar]

Or is it just another employee who didn't like the way the tsa was running things? It's to the point where I even doubt claims like this at all.

That thought crossed my mind as well.

I am generally an, "assume Innocent" type of guy. My dislike of the existence of this $#@! tends to assume anyone working there is guilty.
Guilty of working there..

But there are definite questions about this story..

He may be guilty of working for TSA and innocent of these charges.

[oyarde]

Well good,, I guess.

But it does raise questions,,

http://privateofficernews.wordpress....guel-quinones/


Been under investigation for a year.. Turned over evidence 6 months ago..

And was still on the job? Was just charged Wednesday.

OK this one is a bit different,,
http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS03/130619626


So the got a warrant after he voluntarily turned over the evidence.
and it took all this time to examine them?

and another couple weeks to charge him? All the while,, he was still on the job of feeling up kids.

Kind of sounds like it took the Judge a long time to get around to the warrant, wonder why ?

[Origanalist]

Legalize kiddy porn.

Outlaw the TSA.

I've never done any illegal drugs and never will, and I occasionally get pissed off at my fellow libertarians for pushing this issue far more than some other issues I consider to be more important, but, yes, I do support full legalization, as well as an end to prosecution of all other victimless crimes, from consensual cannibalism to child porn.

The only reason why any child would be victimized into doing child porn is the profit motive, and the only reason why child porn is profitable is because it's illegal.

There are millions of kids out there with PC cams and cell phone cameras out there, and sometimes they choose post pictures of themselves, especially the teenage boys. Millions of images have already floated past your ISP's Usenet server. When someone buys porn they're not paying for access to unique intellectual property, whether they know it or not they're paying for protection from government prosecution.

Human beings become sexually active at puberty, not when government says so. Deal with it.

(I don't want to hijack this thread, if you want to discuss this further start a new thread or PM me a link to an existing one.)

I can see why you were banned.

[Alex Libman]

I can see why you were banned.

Sometimes I get banned from skeptic forums for being a genuine skeptic while others aren't.

Sometimes I get banned from libertarian forums for being a genuine libertarian while others aren't.

And sometimes I used to get very angry and write an occasional "violent" rant, for which a ban is justified.

But let's stay on topic here.

[Petar]

I used to think that possession (not production) of child porn was a victimless crime, but now I believe that possession of such material is a form of additional assault towards the victims.

[Anti Federalist]

So they got a warrant after he voluntarily turned over the evidence and it took all this time to examine them?

And another couple weeks to charge him? All the while, he was still on the job of feeling up kids.

For Our Safety.

The Constitution Is Not A Suicide Pact.

They Hate Us For Our Freedoms.

[Origanalist]

Sometimes I get banned from skeptic forums for being a genuine skeptic while others aren't.

Sometimes I get banned from libertarian forums for being a genuine libertarian while others aren't.

And sometimes I used to get very angry and write an occasional "violent" rant, for which a ban is justified.

But let's stay on topic here.

Ok, your post said "legalize kiddie porn". In my world, that a pretty $#@!ing sick statement. On topic enough for you?

[pcosmar]

Kind of sounds like it took the Judge a long time to get around to the warrant, wonder why ?

seems like,, but still does not add.

He was under investigation for a year(assumes there was some reason to investigate) and six months into that,, he voluntarily turns over the evidence..
Still on the job,,

Now the warrant. since he voluntarily gave them the laptop and thumb drives,, no warrant was necessary.. But assuming it was,, it takes months to get..
When a anonymous tip will send SWAT to kick in doors over a little or no drugs.
And he is still on the job,,

Then,,evidence in hand,, it takes almost three more weeks to arrest him, (they knew his address and place of employment)

I can't help thinking that something else is going on here.
Computational Difficulties.

[Alex Libman]

Ok, your post said "legalize kiddie porn". In my world, that a pretty $#@!ing sick statement. On topic enough for you?

OK, so you haven't thought this through yet. This knee-jerk reaction is common and intuitive, but that doesn't make it right. Read the thread I've linked to. Set aside your emotions and think logically. We all agree that rape should be illegal, what we're talking about here is data - the ultimate excuse that The Powers That Be need to maintain total control over the Internet. Freedom is impossible in a world where some combination of 1's and 0's makes you a hated prisoner for the rest of your life.

[Origanalist]

OK, so you haven't thought this through yet. This knee-jerk reaction is common and intuitive, but that doesn't make it right. Read the thread I've linked to. Set aside your emotions and think logically. We all agree that rape should be illegal, what we're talking about here is data - the ultimate excuse that The Powers That Be need to maintain total control over the Internet. Freedom is impossible in a world where some combination of 1's and 0's makes you a hated prisoner for the rest of your life.

I read far enough, you were taking a pounding and rightly so. Child pornography is not a victimless crime. That "data" is created in the real world.

[pcosmar]

. Set aside your emotions and think logically.

I do try to. I have no interest in Kiddy Porn. I saw some once briefly due to a browser hijack back when i used windoze.

I am curious as to why he was being investigated in the first place (by *ICAC). And wondering if this story is being used to justify Spying on the Internet.

And beyond that,, why this $#@! does not seem to add up .

* https://www.icactaskforce.org/Pages/Home.aspx

[heavenlyboy34]

I read far enough, you were taking a pounding and rightly so. Child pornography is not a victimless crime. That "data" is created in the real world.

This is why resources should be used to capture the creators of kiddie pr0n, not the end user. There are exceptions to this-like if the end user commissioned the act or had some other role in its creation.

This should not be construed as a defense of kiddie pr0n. People are into that stuff have a genuine problem that needs to be dealt with psychologically. Throwing them in rape cages does not solve that problem.

If you can think of an exception to all this, I'd like to hear it. I have no significant experience in this area of law, psychology, etc.

[Origanalist]

This is why resources should be used to capture the creators of kiddie pr0n, not the end user. There are exceptions to this-like if the end user commissioned the act or had some other role in its creation.

This should not be construed as a defense of kiddie pr0n. People are into that stuff have a genuine problem that needs to be dealt with psychologically. Throwing them in rape cages does not solve that problem.

If you can think of an exception to all this, I'd like to hear it. I have no significant experience in this area of law, psychology, etc.

That seems to me a completely sane post, with the exception that child molesters are frequently viewers of this stuff.

[Alex Libman]

I read far enough, you were taking a pounding and rightly so.

You mean I was delivering a pounding. I see you're new to this. Arguments are won through logic, not through having an angry mob on your side.

Child pornography is not a victimless crime. That "data" is created in the real world.

Yes, and that may be a crime (if so described by the victim and/or his/her parents/guardians, etc). But a picture of a crime is not a crime. Having video of a bank robbery does not make you a bank robber.

[heavenlyboy34]

That seems to me a completely sane post, with the exception that child molesters are frequently viewers of this stuff.

They also use ads for kids underwear and swimsuits and such, as I understand from popular psychology articles. Ban all photos/videos of children.

[Origanalist]

You mean I was delivering a pounding. I see you're new to this. Arguments are won through logic, not through having an angry mob on your side.




Yes, and that may be a crime (if so described by the victim and/or his/her parents/guardians, etc). But a picture of a crime is not a crime. Having video of a bank robbery does not make you a bank robber.

Yet your post says legalize it. While I don't pretend to understand the compulsion to watch it (huge understatement), the fact is a crime is committed making it and there is a victim.

[Origanalist]

They also use ads for kids underwear and swimsuits and such, as I understand from popular psychology articles. Ban all photos/videos of children.

Point taken, however they are not having to engage in sex acts.

[Alex Libman]

I do try to. I have no interest in Kiddy Porn. I saw some once briefly due to a browser hijack back when i used windoze.

Yet another reason why it shouldn't be illegal. It can be planted on anyone, even the paranoid OpenBSD crypto-thumpers among us. Critics of the government can always have some little 0day-exploit used against them... It could be any browser on any OS, or even specific to a Web-site... And suddenly you're a hated criminal, and everything you've ever said is discredited.

This is why resources should be used to capture the creators of kiddie pr0n, not the end user. There are exceptions to this-like if the end user commissioned the act or had some other role in its creation.

Assuming that the creator of said content is actually committing a crime, with an actual victim. It could be an artist using PhotoShop, or the latest 3D modeling techniques, etc. It could be kids taking pictures of themselves. It could be an emancipated minor (18 years and 0 days isn't a magic number for everybody). Etc. The Internet should quickly fill up with more victimless "kiddy porn" than any sicko could view in a thousand lifetimes.

[Alex Libman]

[...] the fact is a crime is committed making it and there is a victim.

That's not called kiddy pr0n. That's called RAPE. We all agree that should be very VERY illegal. But this thread is titled "busted for kiddie porn". 1's and 0's.

Point taken, however they are not having to engage in sex acts.

A lot of porn (any kind of porn) is "posing" rather than "in action". My parents took a picture of me as a baby in the bathtub - someone could be thrown in prison for a long time for mere possession of that photo. Not to mention nude beaches and Google Glass. If humanity doesn't get rid of this irrational fear of "kiddy porn" ASAP, the information age will be nothing but a police state, where anyone can be arrested for anything.

[heavenlyboy34]

Yet another reason why it shouldn't be illegal. It can be planted on anyone, even the paranoid OpenBSD crypto-thumpers among us. Critics of the government can always have some little 0day-exploit used against them... It could be any browser on any OS, or even specific to a Web-site... And suddenly you're a hated criminal, and everything you've ever said is discredited.




Assuming that the creator of said content is actually committing a crime, with an actual victim. It could be an artist using PhotoShop, or the latest 3D modeling techniques, etc. It could be kids taking pictures of themselves. It could be an emancipated minor (18 years and 0 days isn't a magic number for everybody). Etc. The Internet should quickly fill up with more victimless "kiddy porn" than any sicko could view in a thousand lifetimes.

Exactly. And as Pete touched on, hackers could plant "kiddy pr0n" onto someone's computer just to get them busted. Like the outlawing of drugs and a number of other inanimate objects, the law can easily abused in SO many ways. Especially by the sort of lawyers who are employed by various levels of the regime-and profit from arresting and incarcerating as many people as possible. (Prison-State-Industrial complex )

[heavenlyboy34]

That's not called kiddy pr0n. That's called RAPE. We all agree that should be very VERY illegal. But this thread is titled "busted for kiddie porn". 1's and 0's.




A lot of porn (any kind of porn) is "posing" rather than "in action". My parents took a picture of me as a baby in the bathtub - someone could be thrown in prison for a long time for mere possession of that photo. Not to mention nude beaches and Google Glass. If humanity doesn't get rid of this irrational fear of "kiddy porn" ASAP, the information age will be nothing but a police state, where anyone can be arrested for anything.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alex Libman again

​Big Brother is watching...

[Anti Federalist]

Not to mention nude beaches and Google Glass. If humanity doesn't get rid of this irrational fear of "kiddy porn" ASAP, the information age will be nothing but a police state, where anyone can be arrested for anything.

It already is, and will become an even worse one, regardless of the presence of kiddie porn or not.

[Origanalist]

That's not called kiddy pr0n. That's called RAPE. We all agree that should be very VERY illegal. But this thread is titled "busted for kiddie porn". 1's and 0's.




A lot of porn (any kind of porn) is "posing" rather than "in action". My parents took a picture of me as a baby in the bathtub - someone could be thrown in prison for a long time for mere possession of that photo. Not to mention nude beaches and Google Glass. If humanity doesn't get rid of this irrational fear of "kiddy porn" ASAP, the information age will be nothing but a police state, where anyone can be arrested for anything.

That is quite debatable on this site. In fact, I would say there are those here who would make rape a unpunishable crime because you can't prove the victim didn't consent.

Do abuses by the judicial system happen? Obviously. Should viewing child porn that involves actual sex acts be made legal? I don't think that falls under the category of "I'm not hurting anybody".

[heavenlyboy34]

That is quite debatable on this site. In fact, I would say there are those here who would make rape a unpunishable crime because you can't prove the victim didn't consent.

Do abuses by the judicial system happen? Obviously. Should viewing child porn that involves actual sex acts be made legal? I don't think that falls under the category of "I'm not hurting anybody".

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Origanalist again.
Damn machine won't let me +rep you. :P Conspiracy!

[tangent4ronpaul]

This is why resources should be used to capture the creators of kiddie pr0n, not the end user.

Who is the #1 creator of "Kiddy porn"?

I'll give you a hint: When is the "victim" also the creator, possessor and distributor of such stuff? What youthful activity do roughly 20% of teens participate in as a means of flirting? While you can sometimes tell how old a photo is, you can't tell how old the subject of that photo is. I tell you, we need a LAW requiring that each citizens name, SS# and DOB be tattoo's on to their forehead at birth via a barcode.

There is a reason advertizing companies start recruiting for models at the age of 14, the models are entering the prime of their life and most attractive years, as well as most reproductively friendly. That sells!

-t