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  1. #781
    Coming to America 2014!

    Those guys had firearms under their shirts. Really though, I am getting so sick of seeing stuff like that go down with groups of people just standing around watching. Geez, nobody even tried to at least get their license plate number! Speaking of the Lucifer Effect.
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

    Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber



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  3. #782
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    Officer Reed caught in a lie. hopefully we can get him to lie in court too before the video evidence is presented.
    There is no way he grabbed that officers arm like the complaint stated. I hope the govt gets sued for every penny they can.

    Even if Kokesh did grab the officers arm, how the ^%#$ is it not cruel and unusual (and inhumane) to lock someone up for potentially 8 years for this??
    "Paper money has the effect to ruin commerce,oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice"

    ~GEORGE WASHINGTON

  4. #783
    Quote Originally Posted by nbruno322 View Post
    .

    Even if Kokesh did grab the officers arm, how the ^%#$ is it not cruel and unusual (and inhumane) to lock someone up for potentially 8 years for this??
    fear tactic...gotta keep the peasants in line.

  5. #784
    Speaking with Adam Kokesh, Before He Was Detained by the Feds
    http://www.vice.com/read/speaking-wi...ed-by-the-feds
    Last week, I spoke to activist and libertarian talk show host Adam Kokesh. Less than 24 hours later he was taken into custody by federal agents.
    [...]
    Adam and I talked on the phone for nearly a half hour about, among other things, his protest, privacy and security, and his Jeffersonian values. While his motivations aren't always clear, one thing was obvious: Adam Kokesh does not like the US Government. It's not that he hates the people running the government, but he believes government has invalidated itself by betraying the principles from which it was founded. At times Kokesh sounded downright anarchistic, but overall he was more empowered by the idea that government should belong to the governed.

    The day after our conversation, Adam was arrested at "Smoke Down Prohibition," a public protest for the legalization of marijuana that takes place every month in Philadelphia. Basically, large groups of people gather in public and simultaneously spark up joints or smoke bowls of weed to protest the fact that it's illegal to do so. Also, they get high. It's not complicated. Before last Saturday, no arrests had ever been made at one of these events, despite the fact that police were always present and laws were broken every time.

    There are several videos on YouTube that document the moments before and during Adam's arrest. In one of the clearest videos, Adam isn't sparking up. He continues talking into the microphone while everyone else is flicking their Bics. Within seconds, the police move in and Adam yells, “Lock arms, we’re going to make it difficult for the police here.” That didn't work out so well.

    Moments later, Adam is being dragged away from the crowd by police. He doesn't appear to be committing any crime in the video. In fact, the only charges against him are for events that transpired after he was engaged by the officers: assault on a federal police officer, impeding the duties of a federal police officer, and resisting arrest. Almost immediately after being grabbed by the officers Adam's hands go up into the air, palms up, signaling that he has officially surrendered and isn't resisting arrest. No assault of any kind appears to take place.

    According to Lucas Jewell, Adam's podcast manager, the arrest is in direct response to the upcoming Independence Day march, not the Smoke Down Prohibition demonstration. "They walked by a big black guy with dreads smoking a blunt and snatched Adam when he hadn't done anything illegal." The fact that Adam was originally taken to a local jail but then picked up by agents and transferred to a Federal detention facility has only fueled this theory.

    Kokesh went before a judge at 1:30 PM Monday and was reportedly silent the entire time. According to Jewell via the Adam Kokesh Facebook page, another hearing was scheduled for this Thursday. Jewell writes: "The reason for the detention hearing is because Adam will not speak on if he owns fire arms [sic] or his address."

    It's unclear if Adam will be released in time to conduct his march on DC, if it will be canceled, or whether the arrest will inadvertently cause even more people to show up on July 4 with loaded weapons slung over their shoulders. If the arrest was indeed a preemptive strike by law enforcement attempting to stop the open carry march before it took place, the tactic of targeting Kokesh in public might very well backfire.

    Here's part of my telephone interview with Adam Kokesh from Friday, May 17...
    Daniel Sisk · Timpanogos High School: Great to see coverage of this on Vice! One thing you may want to change is how you said before the Police came in to arrest him, he said to lock arms. He didn't say to lock arms, he said to get close to each other and make it harder for the police. The only reason I bring it up is because locking arms or telling people to lock arms can be considered resisting arrest in some cases, so the difference is kind of important.

    Dell Cameron · Journalist at VICE: I was searching for the video and found it on another site where they have misquoted him. I probably watched the video 20 times and didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing it out. I've sent in the correction.
    Last edited by Lucille; 05-24-2013 at 09:06 AM.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock



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  7. #785
    This came out before Adam was released. h/t http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/C...f-adam-kokesh/

    And Then They Came For Me: The Black Bagging of Adam Kokesh
    http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2013...am-kokesh.html

    The outright harassment, intimidation and black bagging of political opponents in the US has reached new levels in recent weeks.

    The extortion arm of the US government, the IRS, has admitted to targeting people with certain political beliefs for aggressive shakedowns. And good friend of TDV, Adam Kokesh, who was planning a peaceful armed march in support of the Second Amendment of the Constitution on Washington DC on July 4th was kidnapped in broad daylight on May 18th in Philadelphia.
    [...]
    Many know that we have been ringing the bell about the rising fasco-communist police state in the US and have been warning that more will just be taken away in the middle of the night as this progresses... and, apparently, the daytime too. We even admonished Adam Kokesh, nearly one year ago today, to defect from the US and flee to Mexico.

    This is only going to get worse from here so unless you are willing to be kidnapped and put in a cage I also admonish anyone who can to flee from the US to do so now while you still can. If you can, get a foreign passport and renounce your US slave card... and if you are looking for a place to go, Galt's Gulch in Chile was set-up to be a sanctuary far away from the madness of the US and Western police states.

    You know, it's almost funny that the typical statist will call the average true conservative, libertarian or anarchist "paranoid" for worrying that the government will start rounding up those who speak against it. Yet here it is starting to happen. Keep in mind that Adam didn't actually do anything just prior to his kidnapping. He didn't break any laws. There were dozens of people around Adam whose actual actions violated the ridiculous federal prohibition on possessing a plant and ingesting its smoke. Yet it was Adam who was targeted for a very assault by the costumed thugs.

    Obviously the government will go for the most public dissenters first. But their scope is bound to increase from the most vocal to include a whole assortment of others it considers a threat. Those who call for the reduction or elimination of taxes, the food storers, the gold and silver buyers, the Bitcoin users... Even those who write about how a free market anarchy or a stateless society would function better than a coercion-based state society could find themselves being "disappeared" permanently.

    AND THEN THEY CAME FOR ME

    Martin Neimoller, a German pastor during the Nazi era had a famous quote:

    First they came for the socialists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.


    Today, in the USSA, a friend of TDV and prior Anarchast guest, Amanda Billyrock has modernized the quote:

    First they came for Irwin Schiff, and I didn't speak out because I always pay my taxes.

    Then they came for Bradley Manning, and I didn't speak out because documents are classified for a reason.

    Then they came for Bernard von Nothaus, and I didn't speak out because I use paper money.

    Then they came for Adam Kokesh, and I didn't speak out because I don't support his march on D.C.

    Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.

    [...]
    Don't wait until they come for you to speak up. By then there may not be anyone left to speak for you.
    Last edited by Lucille; 05-25-2013 at 10:47 AM.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

  8. #786
    4,992 going to march on the 4th of July. As of 9:45am PT... 5/25.

  9. #787
    Domain-name created prior to his arrest: http://www.networksolutions.com/whoi...ADAMKOKESH.COM

    Explanation from domain-operator: http://freeadamkokesh.com/:

    UPDATE: Websites, youtube channels, FaceBook accounts, and twitter accounts, have made accusations that Adam Kokesh's arrest had to be a PR stunt, b/c this website was registered before his arrest. While it's important to question everything, you should also question your source of news. Are they doing everything they can to get the story right before reporting it? Well, none of these sites have reached out to me to ask what the deal was. You would think if they were interested in getting the story right, they'd reach out to get my explanation. I'm not hard to reach. My twitter account is posted at the bottom of this site. They seem to be more interested in their agenda (trying to discredit Adam).

    For the record, this site was registered a few weeks ago, in anticipation of Adam's likely July 4th arrest, when Adam planned to march with a loaded rifle into D.C.. I did not know he was going to be arrested before then.
    Last edited by better-dead-than-fed; 05-26-2013 at 09:53 PM.

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