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    New Law – Guns Bought in Arizona Buybacks CANNOT Be Destroyed, Will be Sold to Public

    BREAKING: New Law – Guns Bought in Arizona Buybacks CANNOT Be Destroyed, Will be Sold to Public

    http://gunssavelives.net/blog/breaki...old-to-public/

    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed into law yesterday a bill that would make the destruction of guns bought through government organizaed buybacks illegal.

    The wording of the new law requires that whenever a government sponsored gun buyback takes place the guns acquired must be publicly auctioned off, just like every other piece of non-evidence property.

    Proponents of the NRA backed law say that the buybacks were costing taxpayers a large sum of money by using government funds to purchase and destroy weapons.

    According to the AZDailySun.com, the law is not meant to completely remove the ability to destroy a gun in the state, but only to limit the use of government resources to do so.

    Proponents of the legislation said none of this keeps the owner of a firearm from having it destroyed. The only difference, they said, is that this would have to be done privately, without involvement of municipal employees.

    Any guns bought will be sold at public auction, but only federally licensed firearms dealers will be permitted to purchase the firearms. Those dealers can then sell the firearms to the general public following the same laws and regulations for normal gun sales.
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    Beat me to it! Destroying them is a terrible waste, especially since all levels of govt are flat broke. DH just said he read some collectors are really upset because people are turning in rare guns to be destroyed.

    Arizona law forces cities to resell guns from buy-back programs
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...93T04120130430

    Supporters of the measure said municipalities were wasting taxpayers' money by not realizing the revenue from reselling turned-in weapons.

    Opponents argued that it sent the wrong message and that the state needed to focus on the broader issue of gun control.

    "This action by the governor is not only outrageous, but it is insensitive for us now to be putting these guns back on the streets," said state Senator Steve Gallardo, a Democrat and a leading opponent of the measure. "That's just plain wrong."
    Because that's what important here; feelings and messaging. @@
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    Excellent. I am glad to see AZ joining so many other states that already do this. Now if we could only get WA, CA and some of the other states on board.
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    So what's the point then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninepointfive View Post
    So what's the point then?
    For the state to be the perfect middleman.

    Fleece people out of valuable items that they do not know the worth of, to sell back to people who do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninepointfive View Post
    So what's the point then?
    The point is to prevent future buy back programs. If the police have to go through all of this trouble, they are less likely to do buy back programs. This will prevent police from claiming they took so many guns off the street through such a program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    The point is to prevent future buy back programs. If the police have to go through all of this trouble, they are less likely to do buy back programs. This will prevent police from claiming they took so many guns off the street through such a program.
    I can speak to the specific gun "buyback" program that led to this law because it happened where I live. First of all, gun buy"back" is a bad name for it since the government is not buying anything "back". But putting that aside . . .

    The Tucson gun buyback was sponsored by a Tucson City council member named Steve Kozachik, a former Republican who suddenly switched parties and became enamored with gun control after Sandy Hook. The guns were purchased with donated money but the whole thing involved a huge taxpayer-funded police involvement. Amusingly, a State representative set up an alternative citizen gun buyback in the same venue as Kozachik's buyback and diverted about 100 guns from the buyback and into the hands of other citizens. It was essentially a government gun buyback flanked by a spontaneous gun show.

    Anyway, the State legislature decided to tie Mr. Kozachik's hands on any future gun buybacks. It is unlikely any more will happpen.
    Last edited by Acala; 05-01-2013 at 02:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    The point is to prevent future buy back programs. If the police have to go through all of this trouble, they are less likely to do buy back programs. This will prevent police from claiming they took so many guns off the street through such a program.
    hehehehe



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