Why the Gun is Civilization

[austinphish]

I am post #1 yet I didn't start this thread. My comments were in response to post #2...weird.

[austinphish]

That's a way off base.

People who are not familiar with guns will be wary of guns. They're noisy, many have a painful kick if you're not used to it, and are very dangerous. It has nothing to do with weak wills or lack of testosterone. And even pacifists can use guns (for hunting, not defense).

Prove it.

[austinphish]

Of course I do! Don't be a frickin idiot!

I was merely saying that people who are not familiar with guns tend to be wary of guns. It was nothing to do with their weak will or lack of testosterone. The converse is equally true. I know lots of testosterone-free females who are expert marksmen and not the least bit afraid of guns.

Killing someone is not about being a marksman, it is about pulling the trigger with another human being and the end of your barrel.

[austinphish]

So there are compelling reasons to resist attempts by any US governement to remove the right to bear arms and right now I wish I did have a gun cos I'd cap a few of the assholes running this place!

LOL - exactly

[SeekLiberty]

We have a pretty different attitude to firearms in the UK

There's a lot of petty crime here, burglary, theft etc.

Our Right to defend our persons and our property is held sacred in most places in America.

Those areas where households are usually armed (such as Boise, Idaho) are places where you don't have to lock the door to your front door. (the way it SHOULD be!)

Here, a burglar is likely to be met with a pistol or shotgun. So burglary is very low in residential areas. I never lock the door to my house and worry about not doing so. To a Californian, that may seem insane. But here you don't have to.

When criminals know most private citizens are armed, they seriously hesitate to commit crimes against them. It really works!

BTW, you can even open carry here without any permits ... which, of course, is the way our Forefathers intended. Can you imagine the American colonists even slightly begin to think they needed to get a permit from an authority? NEVER! lol.

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." - Robert A. Heinlein

- SL

PS: By the way Mattsa, it's great to see people from around the world posting here! Welcome to the original ideas of the real Americans here, not those of our neocon servants. The world is watching America, and what us private Americans are going to do about it.

[Brandybuck]

Prove it.

WTF? What part of my statement is controversial? That people unfamiliar with a dangerous tool would be wary of such a tool? I can point you to thousands of people that fit that category. That women are just as capable as men to use firearms? I personally know several. That pacifists never hunt? My great uncle was a Quaker pacifist, who frequently hunted.

[SeekLiberty]

WTF? What part of my statement is controversial? That people unfamiliar with a dangerous tool would be wary of such a tool? I can point you to thousands of people that fit that category. That women are just as capable as men to use firearms? I personally know several. That pacifists never hunt? My great uncle was a Quaker pacifist, who frequently hunted.

Do you own a firearm? If so, have you practiced using it?

- SL

[Brandybuck]

Do you own a firearm? If so, have you practiced using it?

Yes. Now you answer me, why do you think females are unable to use firearms?

[SeekLiberty]

Yes. Now you answer me, why do you think females are unable to use firearms?

GOOD! Glad to hear it!

Brandybuck wrote: "why do you think females are unable to use firearms?"

Where have I said that? Or are you assuming that I think that?

My girlfriend is very good on the range, and is not afraid to use her handgun for self-defense either.

- SL

"There's no evidence which debunks the CONTRADICTIONS of our federal servants'
official propagandized version of the September 11th family tragedy." - SeekLiberty

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