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Thread: ALERT: CISPA Passes House, moves to Senate - Contact ur Senators and Reid to STOP CISPA

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    ALERT: CISPA Passes House, moves to Senate - Contact ur Senators and Reid to STOP CISPA

    Mod: Senate Contacts: http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm
    Congressional Twitter Accounts: http://t.co/TaF48XhFfx



    34 Civil Liberties organizations that oppose CISPA:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/0...ter-amendments


    Vote on H.R. 624, CISPA, scheduled for Thursday, April 18 (calendar here)

    FAQs about the bill:

    https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq

    One of the FAQs:

    Under CISPA, what can a private company do?

    Under CISPA, any company can “use cybersecurity systems to identify and obtain cyber threat information to protect the rights and property” of the company, and then share that information with third parties, including the government, so long as it is for “cybersecurity purposes.” Whenever these prerequisites are met, CISPA is written broadly enough to permit your communications service providers to share your emails and text messages with the government, or your cloud storage company could share your stored files.

    Right now, well-established laws like the Cable Communications Policy Act, the Wiretap Act, the Video Privacy Protection Act, and the Electronic Communications Privacy Act provide judicial oversight and other privacy protections that prevent companies from unnecessarily sharing your private information, including the content of your emails.

    And these laws expressly allow lawsuits against companies that go too far in divulging your private information. CISPA threatens these protections by declaring that key provisions in CISPA are effective “notwithstanding any other law,” a phrase that essentially means CISPA would override the relevant provisions in all other laws—including privacy laws. CISPA also creates a broad immunity for companies against both civil and criminal liability. CISPA provides more legal cover for companies to share large swaths of potentially personal and private information with the government.
    Objectionable provisions within CISPA:

    - Eviscerating existing privacy laws by giving overly broad legal immunity to companies who share users' private information, including the content of communications, with the government.

    - Authorizing companies to disclose users’ data directly to the NSA, a military agency that operates secretly and without public accountability.

    - Broad definitions that allow users’ sensitive personal information to be used for a range of purposes as long as it pertains to "cybersecurity".
    The bill was marked up by the Intelligence Committee a couple days ago behind closed doors. Some slightly good amendments were passed but it did not change the overall bill.


    CALL AND EMAIL YOUR CONGRESSMAN!

    If you call your Congressman and they don't take your name/address, send them an email too since they won't know you already contacted them.

    Find your Congressman's contact info here:

    http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

    Roll call on House vote passing CISPA: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll117.xml
    Last edited by sailingaway; 04-19-2013 at 02:36 PM.



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    It's important that as many people read this and take action as possible.
    Maybe it's a good idea to also post this topic in 'General politics' as it may be viewed by more people there.

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    retweet this, it has the Congressional twitter directory in it: https://twitter.com/usernamenuse/sta...34015470096384
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    I put it on the front page, but I have to play with it.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    I moved the rally live feed above it and will move the cispa thing back above it after the rally

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    K. I want it to be tweeted out to the forum list and it may need to be on top for that. I didn't realize there was an event coming right up that it was blocking when I first promoted it, though.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    Good targets would be Radel, Salmon, Bridenstine, Meadows, Stockman and Mullin.
    They're freshmen and it would be useful to know where they stand on this.
    Last edited by compromise; 04-12-2013 at 05:01 PM.

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    Under CISPA, what can I do if a company improperly hands over private information to the government?

    Almost nothing. Even if the company violates your privacy beyond what CISPA would permit, the government does not have to notify the user whose information was improperly handed over—the government only notifies the company.

    CISPA provides legal immunity to a company for many actions done to or with your private information, as long as the company acted in "good faith." This is an extremely powerful immunity, because it is quite hard to show that a company did not act in good faith. These liability protections can cover actions the company uses to identify and obtain threat information and the subsequent sharing of that information with others—including the government. The immunity also covers "decisions made based on cyber threat information," a dangerously vague provision that has never been defined.
    More FAQs here:
    https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq



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    weekend bump
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    this is the list of reps who voted for and against it in 2012 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h192
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    bump

    [edit - ok those of you who have looked at this thread and are wanting to do stuff come to chat please]
    Last edited by CaseyJones; 04-14-2013 at 05:55 PM.

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    bump
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    bump
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    I've emailed my Representative, and will be making some phonecalls at lunch over the next couple of days.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    IBM launching CISPA advocacy tour

    Nearly 200 senior IBM executives are flying into Washington to press for the passage of a controversial cybersecurity bill that will come up for a vote in the House this week.

    The IBM executives will pound the pavement on Capitol Hill Monday and Tuesday, holding nearly 300 meetings with lawmakers and staff. Over the course of those two days, their mission is to convince lawmakers to back a bill that’s intended to make it easier for industry and government to share information about cyber threats with each other in real time.

    “We’re going to put our shoe leather where our mouth is,” Chris Padilla, vice president of governmental affairs at IBM, told The Hill.

    “The message we're going to give [lawmakers] is going to be a very simple, clear message: support the passage of CISPA,” he later added.

    ...

    The company believes the best way to thwart a cyberattack is to encourage companies to share more data about malicious source code and other online threats with the government and their private-sector peers so they can take steps to address it, according to Padilla.

    “It’s our experience that the most effective thing you can do when a cyberattack occurs is to share information quickly between government and industry and between industry actors in real time in order to find where the attack is coming from and to shut it down,” he said.
    More:
    http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...-advocacy-tour



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    Quote Originally Posted by tsai3904 View Post
    So who cares that it is OUR mail and information they want to 'share quickly' without warrant? We care.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    IBM admits it will send your records directly to NSA under CISPA http://t.co/1oGhEOo2aW
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    Anyone who has a few seconds and a twitter account could retweet the tweets they like best from this list: https://twitter.com/search?q=cispa&src=typd
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    34 Civil Liberties Organizations Oppose CISPA After Amendments

    Dear Representative:

    Earlier this year, many of our organizations wrote to state our opposition to H.R. 624, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2013 (CISPA). We write today to express our continued opposition to this bill following its markup by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI). Although some amendments were adopted in markup to improve the bill’s privacy safeguards, these amendments were woefully inadequate to cure the civil liberties threats posed by this bill. In particular, we remain gravely concerned that despite the amendments, this bill will allow companies that hold very sensitive and personal information to liberally share it with the government, including with military agencies.

    CISPA creates an exception to all privacy laws to permit companies to share our information with each other and with the government in the name of cybersecurity. Although a carefully-crafted information sharing program that strictly limits the information to be shared and includes robust privacy safeguards could be an effective approach to cybersecurity, CISPA lacks such protections for individual rights. CISPA’s information sharing regime allows the transfer of vast amounts of data, including sensitive information like Internet records or the content of emails to any agency in the government including military and intelligence agencies like the National Security Agency or the Department of Defense Cyber Command.

    Developments over the last year make CISPA’s approach even more questionable than before. First, the President recently signed Executive Order 13636, which will increase information sharing from the government to the private sector. Information sharing in this direction is often cited as a substantial justification for CISPA and will proceed without legislation. Second, the cybersecurity legislation the Senate considered last year, S. 3414, included privacy protections for information sharing that are entirely absent from CISPA, and the Obama administration, including the intelligence community, has confirmed that those protections would not inhibit cybersecurity programs. These included provisions to ensure that private companies send cyber threat information only to civilian agencies, and a requirement that companies make “reasonable efforts” to remove personal information that is unrelated to the cyber threat when sharing data with the government. Finally, witnesses at a hearing before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence confirmed earlier this year that companies can strip out personally identifiably information that is not necessary to address cyber threats, and CISPA omits any requirement that reasonable efforts be undertaken to do so.

    We continue to oppose CISPA and encourage you to vote ‘no.’

    Sincerely,

    Access
    Advocacy for Principled Action in Government
    American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
    American Association of Law Libraries
    American Civil Liberties Union
    American Library Association
    Amicus
    Association of Research Libraries
    Bill of Rights Defense Committee
    Breadpig.com
    Center for Democracy & Technology
    Center for National Security Studies
    Center for Rights
    Competitive Enterprise Institute
    The Constitution Project
    Council on American-Islamic Relations
    CREDO Action
    Daily Kos
    Defending Dissent Foundation
    Demand Progress
    DownsizeDC.org, Inc.
    Electronic Frontier Foundation
    Fight for the Future
    Free Press Action Fund
    Government Accountability Project
    Liberty Coalition
    Mozilla
    National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers
    New American Foundation’s Open Technology Institute
    OpenMedia.org
    PolitiHacks
    Reddit
    RootsAction.org
    Tech Freedom
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/0...ter-amendments

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    Please call your Congressman today. All it takes is a two minute phone call to say that you are opposed to HR 624 (CISPA) because it gives the govt access to our online data without a warrant.

    http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

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    Former Rep. Bob Barr wrote a good op-ed today against CISPA:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-bl...rsecurity-bill



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    bump
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    FreedomWorks is opposed to CISPA, which is good since they usually stick to economic issues.

    http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/mki...te-no-on-cispa

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    House voted to expand government's role in the internet in 2 votes today. See the thread here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...and-11-Oppose)

    Good prediction of Thursday's vote.

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    Duplicated.
    Last edited by Spoa; 04-16-2013 at 04:55 PM.

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    bump! Contact your reps against this!
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    bump for google search
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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