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    120 tons of radioactive water escape Fukushima 4/7/2013

    “It is the largest amount of radioactive substances that has been leaked”
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    around 710 billion becquerels of radioactive materials are estimated to have seeped out of the tank
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/201.../#.UWDdxNchh6g
    TOKYO (Reuters) - As much as 120 tons of radioactive water may have leaked from a storage tank at Japan's crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, contaminating the surrounding ground, Tokyo Electric Power Co said on Saturday.
    http://news.yahoo.com/japans-fukushi...--finance.html
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    That would be about 20 curries of radiaition. http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-...querel-bq.html

    One of three units used to measure radioactivity, which refers to the amount of ionizing radiation released when an element (such as uranium) spontaneously emits energy as a result of the radioactive decay (or disintegration) of an unstable atom. Radioactivity is also the term used to describe the rate at which radioactive material emits radiation, or how many atoms in the material decay (or disintegrate) in a given time period. As such, 1 Bq represents a rate of radioactive decay equal to 1 disintegration per second, and 37 billion (3.7 x 1010) Bq equals 1 curie (Ci).
    That is equal to the radiation of 20 grams of Radium 226.
    http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResou...y/activity.htm

    The curie is a quantity of radioactive material in which 3.7 x 1010 atoms disintegrate per second. This is approximately the amount of radioactivity emitted by one gram (1 g) of Radium 226.
    From the first article linked in the OP:
    Trace amounts of radioactive material were also detected in water between the outermost sheet and the soil.

    The tank is around 800 meters from the Pacific but Tepco said it believes the irradiated water is unlikely to make its way to the sea.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-07-2013 at 08:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Hopefully other nations are learning lessons from Japan nuke plant fiasco.
    Like don't let GE build your reactors, don't build your nuclear plant so close to the ocean, and last but not least, don't let an Israeli company set up your state of the art "security" for your plant just before an Earthquake. Oh, and I forgot, don't piss Israel off by reading books on their not approved of list like Japanese were doing before the quake. And by all means, whatever you do, don't support an independent Palestinian state!

    Here is an article I bet few of you have seen before, and will never see on any Israeli controlled news station.

    Journalist Accuses Israel of Fukushima Sabotage

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    Maybe we'll finally get those superheros everyone pays ten dollars to watch movies about.

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    So as soon as they heard about the earthquake Israel flew agents to Japan to attack the reactors at Fukushima? In case the earthquake didn't do "adequate damage" on its own? If you want to "send a message" you want people to know what you did. Using an earthquake to allegedly cover up your actions would be counter productive to that end. Or did they cause the quake as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That would be about 20 curries of radiaition. http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-...querel-bq.html
    If my math is right, that works out to roughly the number of curies found in thirty 130-car coal trains.

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    The solution to pollution is dilution. And this isn't much pollution.

    Typical fear mongering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    The solution to pollution is dilution. And this isn't much pollution.

    Typical fear mongering.

    High Radiation Levels Found in Fish in Pacific


    Despite an announcement Tuesday that TEPCO has stopped leaks of high radiation water from the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant into the Pacific Ocean, fishermen in Japan have found fish with high radiation levels swimming off the coast.

    Japan authorities said the high levels were predominantly in one species of tiny fish, the Wall Street Journal reports. Samples were taken from two separate fish caught before the radioactive water dumping process began, increasing fears for the radioactive water spreading significantly and affecting marine life.

    The water dumping process began after workers discovered an uncontrolled leak at the nuclear plant.

    Attempts to stem the leak by injecting 400 gallons of "water glass," or sodium silicate, and another agent near the seaside pit where the water was leaking appeared to have been successful, according to Naoki Tsunoda, spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power Co.

    The announcement comes after reports that samples taken seawater near one of the plant's reactors contained contained 7.5 million times the legal limit for radioactive iodine on April 2. Two days later, that figure dropped to 5 million.

    TEPCO said in a statement that even those large amounts would have "no immediate impact" on the environment but added that it was working to stop the leak as soon as possible.

    The readings released Tuesday were taken closer to the plant than before -- apparently because new measuring points were added after the crack was discovered -- and did not necessarily reflect a worsening of the contamination. Other measurements several hundred yards away from the plant have declined to levels about 1,000 times the legal limit -- down from more than four times that last week.

    Playgrounds in the Fukushima area will be tested for radiation, the Daily Telegraph reports.

    Radiation measuring equipment will be installed at nearly 1,400 schools as students return to classes, the local government told the U.K. paper.

    The government set its first radiation safety standards for fish Tuesday after Japan's tsunami-ravaged nuclear plant reported radioactive contamination in nearby seawater measuring at several million times the legal limit.

    The plant operator insisted that the radiation will rapidly disperse and that it poses no immediate danger, but an expert said exposure to the highly concentrated levels near the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant could cause immediate injury and that the leaks could result in residual contamination of the sea in the area.

    The new levels coupled with reports that radiation was building up in fish led the government to create an acceptable radiation standard for fish for the first time. Some fish caught Friday off Japan's coastal waters would have exceeded the new provisional limit.

    Continued...



    High radiation in fish caught off No. 1 plant

    A greenling caught in the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant’s small harbor contained 510,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram, 5,100 times above the state-set safety limit, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.

    If someone were to eat 1 kg of fish with this level, they would be exposed to about 7.7 millisieverts of internal radiation. Also caught during efforts by Tepco to rid the harbor of all fish was a spotbelly rockfish containing 277,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram.

    At the mouth of the harbor, where the ocean is about 10 meters deep, Tepco has set up a 2-meter-high net at the seafloor to prevent bottom fish from swimming out. The harbor seabed has been seriously contaminated with radioactive substances.

    “If we make the net higher, vessels won’t be able to go through,” said a Tepco official, adding the utility will continue to get rid of fish in the harbor.

    The highest level of radioactive cesium found in fish had been 254,000 becquerels per kilogram, also in a spotbelly rockfish caught in the harbor.

    Source:
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/201.../#.UW_-fnnSlks
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    "A greenling caught in the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant’s small harbor contained 510,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram, 5,100 times above the state-set safety limit, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said."

    OK? I've never said to eat the fish, and absolutely nobody is.

    To put that number in perspective, though, it is about 1/7th the max yearly dose for a radiation worker and what you'd get during a CT scan. It's not like an individual would be glowing.

    Stop the fear-mongering. This isn't much pollution, regardless of the context-less numbers uninformed people like you throw out.
    Last edited by KingNothing; 04-18-2013 at 08:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    "A greenling caught in the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant’s small harbor contained 510,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram, 5,100 times above the state-set safety limit, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said."

    OK? I've never said to eat the fish, and absolutely nobody is.

    To put that number in perspective, though, it is about 1/7th the max yearly dose for a radiation worker and what you'd get during a CT scan. It's not like an individual would be glowing.

    Stop the fear-mongering. This isn't much pollution, regardless of the context-less numbers uninformed people like you throw out.
    I tend to agree. Nature has a great way of dealing with pollution, more than most people realize. I usually agree with donnay about the dangers of our health system, but she also seems to want to take things a step further in claiming that the world is truly screwed up. Fukushima was bad, but it was not the end of the world, obviously. This is the same kind of data used to confirm chemtrails, and I just find it unconvincing.
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    Dismiss it all you want--the MSM takes their marching orders from governments. I believe it is seriously under-reported on purpose. But by all means ignore this information and carry on.

    Study: Fukushima radiation fallout has devastated health of US babies on West Coast and in other areas


    Jonathan Benson
    April 15, 2013

    New peer-reviewed research published in the Open Journal of Pediatrics raises fresh concerns about the health effects of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster on American children and babies. As has long been suspected by those with an understanding of the widespread reach of radioactive fallout from Fukushima, newborns living in California, Hawaii, Washington, and other West Coast states appear to have been directly affected by Fukushima fallout in a serious way, which is reflected by the disproportionate rate of hypothyroidism observed amongst this demographic.

    Conducted by a duo of scientists from the Radiation and Public Health Project, a non-profit education and scientific organization that seeks to understand the relationship between nuclear radiation exposure and public health, the research evaluated average rates of hypothyroidism both before and after the Fukushima disaster. In their findings, Joseph J. Mangano and Janette D. Sherman reported that, compared to one year earlier, babies born between one week and 16 weeks after the nuclear meltdowns in Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington were 28 percent more likely to suffer from congenital hypothyroidism.

    2,110 percent increase in iodine-131 on US West Coast following Fukushima linked to hypothyroidism

    Each of these states and the Pacific Ocean, according to the study, experiences significantly elevated levels of radioactive iodine-131 (I-131), as well as various other radioactive isotopes, in the days and weeks following the March 11, 2011, disaster. Based on the data, the 2,110 percent increase in detectable I-131 all along the U.S. West Coast following the disaster appears to be directly correlated with the higher-than-average rates of congenital hypothyroidism.

    “After entering our bodies, radioactive iodine gathers in our thyroids,” explains John Upton, writing for Grist.com, about how radioactive isotopes interfere with proper thyroid function. “Thyroids are glands that release hormones that control how we grow. In babies, including those not yet born, such radiation can stunt the development of body and brain. The condition is known as congenital hypothyroidism.”

    You can view an abstract of the new study here:
    http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperIn...?PaperID=28599

    You can also download or view a PDF file of the complete study here:
    http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDo...?paperID=28599

    A d v e r t i s e m e n t

    A similar uptick in congenital hypothyroidism, which is fully treatable if detected early, was also observed in young children following the historic meltdown of the Chernobyl nuclear reactor back in 1986. Because of this, researchers are even more convinced that Fukushima is responsible for the now-occurring uptick, which is only just now beginning to be realized.

    “Congenital hypothyroidism can be used as one measure to assess any potential changes in U.S. fetal and infant health status after Fukushima because official data was available relatively promptly,” wrote the authors in their report. “However, health departments will soon have available for other 2010 and 2011 indicators of fetal/infant health, including fetal deaths, premature births, low birth weights, neonatal deaths, infant deaths, and birth defects.”

    For the latest developments related to the Fukushima disaster, be sure to check out the Fukushima Diary blog:
    http://fukushima-diary.com/

    Sources for this article include:

    http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperIn...?PaperID=28599

    http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDo...?paperID=28599

    http://grist.org
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post

    Study: Fukushima radiation fallout has devastated health of US babies on West Coast and in other areas


    Jonathan Benson
    April 15, 2013

    New peer-reviewed research published in the Open Journal of Pediatrics raises fresh concerns about the health effects of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster on American children and babies. As has long been suspected by those with an understanding of the widespread reach of radioactive fallout from Fukushima, newborns living in California, Hawaii, Washington, and other West Coast states appear to have been directly affected by Fukushima fallout in a serious way, which is reflected by the disproportionate rate of hypothyroidism observed amongst this demographic.
    Been discussed. Thread: Fukushima meltdown appears to have sickened American infants John Upton's journalistic opinion means nothing to me. The methodology of the study was poor. The numbers were made to support a conclusion that they went looking for.

    There are things much higher on my radar to be worried about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Dismiss it all you want--the MSM takes their marching orders from governments. I believe it is seriously under-reported on purpose. But by all means ignore this information and carry on.
    Your logic is terrible. Just stop it. I already discussed how much radiation was released per your own sources and the relatively trivial nature of it. You can't just yell "WELL, YOU BELIEVE THE MSM IF YOU WANT!" as if such a statement gives your carte-blanche to say any insane thing you wish to say.
    Last edited by KingNothing; 04-18-2013 at 12:42 PM.

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    And would you post articles from The Onion as if they were actual news? No? Then why in the sweet merciful hell are you posting nonsense from Natural News? It is a TERRIBLE source of reality-based information!



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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    Your logic is terrible.
    Your credibility is terrible. And your trolling is lame.

    US soldiers sue over Fukushima radiation exposure

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-exposure.html

    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...ons-california

    There are literally hundreds of videos over the last couple years of people checking radiation levels of rainfall.. In the US. Canada and elsewhere.
    this one from St. Louis Mo.(a long way from Japan)




    It is widespread. And yes,, it is largely ignored by the MSM and USgov.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    Your logic is terrible. Just stop it. I already discussed how much radiation was released per your own sources and the relatively trivial nature of it. You can't just yell "WELL, YOU BELIEVE THE MSM IF YOU WANT!" as if such a statement gives your carte-blanche to say any insane thing you wish to say.
    Do you honestly think the Japanese government and TEPCO is being straight forward with the people?


    Japan ignored its own radiation forecasts in days following disaster, imperiling thousands
    http://www.bellona.org/articles/arti...rcasts_ignored

    Starving sea lion pups fill Calif. rescue centers
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...8b41901b91b138

    Japan Nuclear Radiation Showing up in U.S.
    http://www.livescience.com/13507-inf...on-levels.html

    Nuclear Fallout from Fukushima
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=214_1337892579

    New Study Challenges Official Fukushima Explanation | Radiation Released Exceeds Twice what Experts Claimed
    http://naturalsociety.com/fukushima-...#ixzz2QqKLXaT1


    Xenon-133 and caesium-137 releases into the atmosphere from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant: determination of the source term, atmospheric dispersion, and deposition
    http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.n...8319-2011.html

    Scientist: Fukushima attack makes Pacific Ocean a radioactive garbage dump
    http://www.examiner.com/article/scie...e-garbage-dump
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