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    http://news.yahoo.com/giffords-husba...025912905.html



    LOS ANGELES (AP) The daughter of former astronaut Mark Kelly was walking her dog Shiner on Goff Island Beach when the dog bolted, ripping the leash from her hand and fatally attacking a beached baby sea lion.

    Video showed the owner and two other women struggling several minutes in vain to pull the dog off the sea lion. As his daughter screamed and cried, Kelly arrived and grabbed the collar. He shook the dog's head until it released the bloodied mammal, which later died.

    Kelly is married to former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was wounded in a shooting in Tucson, Ariz., in 2011. His daughters, Claudia and Claire, are from a previous marriage.

    Laguna Beach police said they did not plan to press charges because it did not appear the owner was at fault in the attack Saturday, Capt. Jason Kravetz said Tuesday. The bulldog mix was leashed and legally on the beach below the exclusive Montage Resort.

    A necropsy was performed at the Pacific Marine Mammal Center and results were turned over to the National Marine Fish Services, a spokeswoman for the marine mammal center said late Tuesday. Attempts to contact a spokeswoman at that agency did not succeed because her voicemail was full.

    In addition, Laguna Beach police checked with Texas authorities, where the dog and his owner live, and found Shiner had a clean record. Kravetz said there were no prior attacks or even any nuisance calls.

    If there had been a history of aggression, authorities could have taken action against the dog.

    The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also does not expect to take legal action, spokesman Jim Milbury said.

    "We will have to wait for all the facts to come in, but it appears to be an unfortunate accident," he said.

    Federal law protects marine animals. The state has no jurisdiction, a spokeswoman said.

    Earlier in the day Saturday, officers had removed the same sea lion from a storm drain, Kravetz said.

    "This is a regrettable and traumatic incident for the animals and the people involved," said Madeline Bernstein, president of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Los Angeles. "Perhaps this will lead to more research and recommendations for peaceful coexistence between domestic animals and local wildlife."

    Chasing, hunting or attacking animals like cats and squirrels comes naturally to some dogs, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said in a statement. In this case it was a vulnerable sea lion.

    If the dog has not shown any other signs of aggression, the family should take new precautions and do all they can to make sure no future incidents occur. "But they should not punish the dog," the statement said.

    Giffords was not present during the attack, according to a spokeswoman for the gun control advocacy group the couple recently started.

    "Mark was alerted to the situation and came to the beach himself," said Jen Bluestein of Americans for Responsible Solutions.

    Gun advocates seized on the incident to criticize Kelly, who has called for background checks for gun buyers.

    Several people suggested on his Facebook page Tuesday that background checks might also be considered for dogs whose owners can't control them or those that are a threat to the public. Kravetz said he had gotten several similar calls throughout the day.


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    This article is full of win...

    Also, if the dog belonged to one of us ordinary people.. It would've been shot or killed.



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    Meh. It was her daughter's dog.

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    WTF? Who takes a video of that shit.
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    BAN ALL DOGS

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkob View Post
    BAN ALL DOGS
    only assault dogs, or dogs whose torsos hold more than 2 legs.

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    Guarantee you if you or I had that happen, we'd be charged with all kinds of stuff.
    "Sorry, guys, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    Guarantee you if you or I had that happen, we'd be charged with all kinds of stuff.
    Trust and believe if my dog ate a seal, no one would know about it.
    As for those who said: "Let us eliminate every injustice, for there is no such thing as a partial injustice; let us tolerate no robbery, for there is no such thing as a half-robbery or a quarter-robbery," they were regarded as idle visionaries, tiresome dreamers who kept repeating the same thing over and over again. Besides, the people found their arguments too easy to understand. How can one believe that what is so simple can be true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VBRonPaulFan View Post
    only assault dogs, or dogs whose torsos hold more than 2 legs.
    You don't need a 50 pound dog! A nice little poodle is more than enough.

    Big dogs should only be kept by police and military.
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    Background checks for dog owners. Ban assault dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    You don't need a 50 pound dog! A nice little poodle is more than enough.

    Big dogs should only be kept by police and military.
    The Constitution was not written with 20th century dogs like golden retrievers in mind!

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    Another experiment?

    To see how easy it would be for a dog to kill a beached baby sea lion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danan View Post
    The Constitution was not written with 20th century dogs like golden retrievers in mind!
    That's right!

    Our knowledge of genetics and selective breeding has given rise to certain breeds our Founding Fathers could not have imagined!
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    That's right!

    Our knowledge of genetics and selective breeding has given rise to certain breeds our Founding Fathers could not have imagined!
    What's next? Should private citizens be allowed to keep rams and bulls? Everybody knows that only federal agents could possibly handle those beasts safely!

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    yeah.. the main reason i posted it is that

    Normal people would be charged and/or dog would be shot or euthanized. Get real... They are saying that the seal was going to die anyways and that the dog's "superficial" bites was not the cause of death.

    And the last part of the story, where.. people want background checks before people can own a dog >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    You don't need a 50 pound dog! A nice little poodle is more than enough.

    Big dogs should only be kept by police and military.
    Shouldn't it be the other way?, cause some small dogs are pretty aggressive.

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    Now Gabby can lobby to criminalize all beached baby seals, dog walking, and assault dogs.
    Ron Paul let the cat out of the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubb556 View Post
    Shouldn't it be the other way?, cause some small dogs are pretty aggressive.
    We don't need sub-dogs either. They are too concealable.
    As for those who said: "Let us eliminate every injustice, for there is no such thing as a partial injustice; let us tolerate no robbery, for there is no such thing as a half-robbery or a quarter-robbery," they were regarded as idle visionaries, tiresome dreamers who kept repeating the same thing over and over again. Besides, the people found their arguments too easy to understand. How can one believe that what is so simple can be true?

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    If this were the dog of a mundane, the dog would be dead and the owner would be headed to court to expect a calamitous fine and a jail sentence to remember.

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    Did you see the way they tried to pull the sea lion out of the dogs mouth? These people are hopeless, they killed the sea lion with their stupidity.

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    Gee, my kids know how to be responsible with their dogs just like my kids are responsible with their firearms.

    If your own family can't even handle a stinkin' dog you certainly have no leg to stand on telling me and mine what we can or can't own.

    Get stuffed.
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    Wow, look at how PETA did a 180 when it came to the poor baby seal. Moral of the story, if you are going to skin an animal, have an Obama sticker.
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    in the water sea lion eats dog. I fail to see the big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolil View Post
    in the water sea lion eats dog. I fail to see the big deal.
    Getting even on his home turf. lol!

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    I've never seen a gun attack someone, but I have seen a dog attack someone, and it was almost fatal.
    Living in a police state is a small price to pay for living in a free country.





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