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    Rand Paul: I don't promote marijuana

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/politi...na-160075.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    "Look, the last two presidents could have conceivably been put in jail for their drug use and I really think - look what would've happened, it would've ruined their lives. They got lucky. But a lot of poor kids, particularly in the inner city, don't get lucky and they don't have good attorneys and they go to jail for some of these things and I think it's a big mistake,” the Kentucky Republican said on Fox’s “Fox News Sunday.”

    Paul said that he doesn’t support people using marijuana but said he also doesn’t necessarily support putting them in jail for extended periods of time.

    "There are people in jail for 37, 50, 45 years for nonviolent crimes and that's a huge mistake," Paul said. "Our prisons are full of non-violent criminals. I don't want to encourage people to do it. I think even marijuana is a bad thing to do. I think it takes away your incentive to work and show up and do the things that you should be doing. I don't think that it's a good idea."

    “I don't want to promote that but I also don't want to put people in jail who make a mistake," he added. "There are a lot of young people who do this and then later on in their twenties they grow up and get married and they quit doing things like this. I don't want to put them in jail and ruin their lives."



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    Thought it was funny how Mike Wallace corrected Rand by saying the last three presidents and included that he "Didn't inhale".
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    Dannnos not gonna be happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    Dannnos not gonna be happy
    I'd imagine Danno will realize that a politician cannot take a stronger stance than the one he's taking. I mean, he also isn't going to go up there and say "Drinking alcohol is great!".

    Stick to the victimless crimes, dangers of prohibition, and medicinal benefits. Those are strong arguments in themselves without painting yourself into a corner preaching "it's no big deal" to people who still think it is. He can tip-toe around its harmlessness, but he will be smeared if he acts like he endorses the behavior.
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    lol mentioned g.w bush's drug use. that is kind of in bad taste. I don't think g.w bush owned up to it like Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutional Paulicy View Post
    Thought it was funny how Mike Wallace corrected Rand by saying the last three presidents and included that he "Didn't inhale".
    That was hilarious!
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    Marijuana handles its own promotion just fine.



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    It's a shame how so many can not separate promotion or endorsement from legality. It is perfectly consistent to prefer no government involvement without endorsement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutional Paulicy View Post
    Thought it was funny how Mike Wallace corrected Rand by saying the last three presidents and included that he "Didn't inhale".
    not true....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DWx5u0nPc4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It's a shame how so many can not separate promotion or endorsement from legality. It is perfectly consistent to prefer no government involvement without endorsement.
    Exactly. Why would anyone demand that a politician actually endorse marijuana use?

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    Cannabis doesn't promote the kind of lethargy that he says any more than alcohol or prescription sedatives do.
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    I don't endorse it. I think its stupid. Granted, I suspect (I'm not that knowledgeable, but I'm almost certain) that medical marijuana is somewhat useful, and that recreational marijuana is probably more in the ballpark of nicotine cigarettes than crack... But I still don't endorse cigarette use either. I just don't want users to go to jail. The same could be said for marijuana, or even crack. I don't expect Rand to endorse it either. I wish he would openly advocate legalization. He doesn't have to endorse legalization by Congress, he could easily just say "I believe it should be legal but because of the 10th amendment this is a state issue" or something, but to continue to advocate for its illegality is a bit annoying. Yet, Rand doesn't support legalization. Oh well, he fell from the same tree as his dad, just a different branch. I can tolerate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I don't endorse it. I think its stupid. Granted, I suspect (I'm not that knowledgeable, but I'm almost certain) that medical marijuana is somewhat useful, and that recreational marijuana is probably more in the ballpark of nicotine cigarettes than crack... But I still don't endorse cigarette use either. I just don't want users to go to jail. The same could be said for marijuana, or even crack. I don't expect Rand to endorse it either. I wish he would openly advocate legalization. He doesn't have to endorse legalization by Congress, he could easily just say "I believe it should be legal but because of the 10th amendment this is a state issue" or something, but to continue to advocate for its illegality is a bit annoying. Yet, Rand doesn't support legalization. Oh well, he fell from the same tree as his dad, just a different branch. I can tolerate it.
    He didn't explictly say that he opposes legalization, just that he's not advocating it.

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    Oh, word games

    Granted, that may be exactly what Rand Paul is doing. He may well support legalization but yet be politically savvy. I don't care though. I'm disappointed in him for not being at least somewhat willing to fight for victimless 'criminals.' At the very least he should be willing to advocate for legalization of pot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    He didn't explictly say that he opposes legalization, just that he's not advocating it.
    It is afterall a state rights issue . . . ok in Colorado and California for example
    and a tobacco state like Kentucky should be able to do whatever it's fine and honorable citizens
    so choose to do as well.

    The next President of the United States really should act presidential unequivocally at all times,
    and not allow himself to get cornered into talking about social issues . . . also read as
    the social engineering of society by the non-constitutionalists, non-liberty candidates, and / or neocon war mongerers.
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    I don't claim that Rand should try to legalize drugs at the Federal level. He should, however, support legalization and advocate for it at the state level. The 10th amendment is the best thing we've got right now.

    Granted, all Rand has to do constittutionally is to leave it to the states, so I can forgive him, but I wish he'd be more open about it like his dad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I don't claim that Rand should try to legalize drugs at the Federal level. He should, however, support legalization and advocate for it at the state level. The 10th amendment is the best thing we've got right now.

    Granted, all Rand has to do constittutionally is to leave it to the states, so I can forgive him, but I wish he'd be more open about it like his dad.
    The way that Rand argues the issue causes people to stop and think. If he did it your way, they would dismiss him and his arguments. Which would you rather have happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    Oh, word games

    Granted, that may be exactly what Rand Paul is doing. He may well support legalization but yet be politically savvy. I don't care though. I'm disappointed in him for not being at least somewhat willing to fight for victimless 'criminals.' At the very least he should be willing to advocate for legalization of pot.
    He said in the interview that he's opposed to throwing people in jail for victimless crimes, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. The fact that he doesn't like to use the term "legalization" doesn't mean that he's in favor of drug use being a criminal activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thequietkid10 View Post
    He was talking about Clinton. =P

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    rand paul will not win colorado, back to the drawing board!
    2016 gop est business as usual, rules do not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I don't claim that Rand should try to legalize drugs at the Federal level. He should, however, support legalization and advocate for it at the state level. The 10th amendment is the best thing we've got right now.

    Granted, all Rand has to do constittutionally is to leave it to the states, so I can forgive him, but I wish he'd be more open about it like his dad.
    Did you even read the OP? He said that he's against nonviolent offenders having their lives ruined over it, essentially the same stance as his dad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speciallyblend View Post
    rand paul will not win colorado, back to the drawing board!
    What is with your obsession over Colorado? Why would this cause him not to win Colorado?



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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    [B]I don't endorse it. I think its stupid. Granted, I suspect (I'm not that knowledgeable, but I'm almost certain) that medical marijuana is somewhat useful, and that recreational marijuana is probably more in the ballpark of nicotine cigarettes than crack... But I still don't endorse cigarette use either. I just don't want users to go to jail. The same could be said for marijuana, or even crack. I don't expect Rand to endorse it either. I wish he would openly advocate legalization. He doesn't have to endorse legalization by Congress, he could easily just say "I believe it should be legal but because of the 10th amendment this is a state issue" or something, but to continue to advocate for its illegality is a bit annoying. Yet, Rand doesn't support legalization. Oh well, he fell from the same tree as his dad, just a different branch. I can tolerate it.
    You should have stopped at the bolded.
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    I know people in drug trade who think it should be illegal...not only for selfish reasons . Just about anybody in middle school in any kind of urban area can get just about anything they want. Honestly to me ending drug war is in my top 5 issues, there are politicians that will take the hard line stance to end drug war soon enough, I don't think Rand is tasty guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speciallyblend View Post
    rand paul will not win colorado, back to the drawing board!
    because he won't use leftist dogma on the issue?

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    Not being with marijuana legalization is just insane. Where are these people going to get new taxes from. Rand will lose the wave with legalization and again when the Dems want to tax it .

    1 in 4 smoke marijuana almost regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkingpointes View Post
    Not being with marijuana legalization is just insane. Where are these people going to get new taxes from. Rand will lose the wave with legalization and again when the Dems want to tax it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeman View Post
    What is with your obsession over Colorado? Why would this cause him not to win Colorado?
    i live in colorado ,my wife has 14 fused vertebrae and i choose to use something safer then aspirin. What iam saying is if the republican cannot support legal marijuana personal or medical and fully support the majority of colorado citizens. Then rand paul will never win colorado or an election in 2016 for president. bottom line if the gop cannot support individual liberty. they will not win the swing state of colorado, end of f'in story!
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