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    WASHINGTON—A Senate committee approved an assault weapons ban Thursday on a party-line vote that signaled how difficult it will be for the proposal to survive in the full Senate.
    The Democratic-led Senate Judiciary Committee approved the bill on a 10-8 vote after rejecting a series of Republican amendments aimed at exempting victims of sexual abuse, people living along the Southwest border and others from the prohibition. The GOP proposals were also defeated along party lines.
    President Barack Obama made an assault weapons ban part of the gun curbs he proposed in January, a month after a shooter with an assault rifle killed 20 first-graders and six educators at a school in Newtown, Conn. An assault weapons ban became law in 1994, but Congress failed to renew it before it expired in 2004.
    White House press secretary Jay Carney urged Congress to swiftly pass the assault weapons ban and said Obama is pushing for that along with his other gun control measures in meetings this week with lawmakers on Capitol Hill. Carney said the president acknowledges they face tough odds but argued the measures won't take guns away from law-abiding citizens.
    "If this weren't a tough issue, the assault weapons ban would not have expired and not been renewed," Carney said.
    Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein and others have argued that such firearms are used in a disproportionate number of mass shootings and shouldn't be available to civilians.
    The prohibition is one of the most controversial of the gun restrictions being considered in Congress. Its foes say law-abiding citizens should not lose their Second Amendment right to own the weapons, which they say are popular for self-defense, hunting and collecting.
    Thursday's debate included a fiery clash between Feinstein, D-Calif., the ban's author, and outspoken freshman conservative Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. Cruz said Feinstein's bill would create exceptions to the Second Amendment and asked her if she would favor exemptions to the First Amendment's freedom of speech by denying that right to certain books.
    "I'm not a sixth-grader," said a visibly upset Feinstein. She described her decades in Congress involved in gun control debates and said, "I'm reasonably well-educated, and thank you for the lecture."
    Several Republicans including Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, who proposed the GOP amendments that were defeated, argued that the most effective approach to curbing gun violence would be to improve how mental health records are sent to the federal system that checks backgrounds of potential gun buyers.
    Cornyn also said that as a result of Feinstein's ban, criminals would still get the weapons.
    "We're going to give American citizens a pea shooter to defend themselves with," Cornyn said.
    Feinstein conceded that the battle to enact her measure would be difficult and said, "I don't see that as being bad. I don't see that as harming Americans. Because we have so many guns."
    Feinstein's bill would also ban large-capacity ammunition magazines carrying more than 10 rounds, which she and her allies say allow shooters to inflict more casualties before pausing to reload, which is when they might be stopped. Adam Lanza, the Newtown gunman, was said to have had 30-round magazines.
    The measure's passage by the Judiciary panel has been a foregone conclusion for some time. It will be far more vulnerable in the full Senate, where Democrats are expected to need 60 votes for passage through the 100-member chamber. That is where the NRA and other pro-gun groups are working hard for the ban's defeat.
    "We are focused on the next step of the legislative process," Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist, said Wednesday.
    There are 53 Democrats plus two independents who generally side with them. Republicans seem ready to oppose the ban overwhelmingly, and Feinstein can't count on a half-dozen Democrats from Republican-leaning states who face re-election next year.
    The ban also stands little chance of approval in the GOP-controlled House.
    Feinstein's bill would ban semi-automatic weapons—guns that fire one round and automatically reload—that can take a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature like a pistol grip.
    It specifically bans 157 named weapons. But in an effort to avoid antagonizing those who use them for sports, the measure allows 2,258 rifles and shotguns that are frequently used by hunters.
    It also exempts any weapons that are lawfully owned whenever the bill is enacted.


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    what an arrogant troll that Frankenstein is!
    ANSWER THE QUESTION!
    I DID NOT ASK FOR, NOR NEED, YOUR FUCKING RESUME!



    "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!"

    SAY IT

    FUCKING SAY IT!!!
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    Sen. Feinstein Didn't Like Sen. Cruz's Questions About the Bill of Rights
    http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/14/se...ke-senator-cru

    During a hearing on the assault weapons ban in the Senate Judiciary Committee (which was approved along party lines) Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) had a few questions about the Bill of Rights for Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who reminded the junior senator from Texas that she is not a sixth grader.
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    The automated transcript of the exchange is below via ABC news:

    Do they need. Other high powered weapons that military people used to kill in close combat I don't think so. So I come from a different place than you do.
    Why yes, I do need. And you certainly do come from a different place. Molon Labe, bitch.
    "The State, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing."
    --Albert Jay Nock

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    Dick Durbin on the Constitution, namely the Bill of Rights- 'None of these rights are absolute, none of them.'

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    Dick Durbin should be tried for treason saying words like that. Did anybody catch when Cruz had about 5 minutes on his own where he laid out about 5 reasons why any gun bans were unconstitutional. It should have followed this exchange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Sen. Feinstein Didn't Like Sen. Cruz's Questions About the Bill of Rights
    http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/14/se...ke-senator-cru



    Why yes, I do need. And you certainly do come from a different place. Molon Labe, bitch.
    Not to mention that I've yet to see the US Soldier in Afghanistan using an AR15. Dumb ass bitch doesn't understand that because they might look the same, doesn't mean they are the same. Also, she should realize that automatic weapons are so damn regulated hardly anyone even has one and many less people have any desire to own one. With giving up your Fourth Amendment rights and the taxes I wouldn't even go through the hassle. [though that's probably her goal]

    And fuck Dick Durbin. "Shall not be infringed" must really be so damn complex with bullshit legal precedents being established and the redefining of words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHendricks View Post
    Dick Durbin should be tried for treason saying words like that. Did anybody catch when Cruz had about 5 minutes on his own where he laid out about 5 reasons why any gun bans were unconstitutional. It should have followed this exchange.
    I missed it. I hope someone finds a tube. I'm really liking Ted Cruz even with the little bit I've seen of him.

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    Okay so I found it on CSPAN video!

    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/311493-1

    It is at the 48:50 mark.

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    anybody catch Schumer run over to Cruz after he started to leave?....chuck appeared to be giving Cruz hell for the exchange with dirty diana...i wonder what was said.

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