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What's interesting is that he posts it under his campaign account...I think he's going to run.
I retweeted it...
http://twitter.com/justinamash/statu...99472971554817
From the article:
I would point out that Spencer Abraham was one of the worst corporatist, globalist whores in the Senate. That is why he was only there one term. People from all over the country donated to get rid of him. We can blame Spencer for the election of Debbie Stabenow.Levin held the seat for more than three decades and Republicans' most recent success in the U.S. Senate came from Spencer Abraham who served one term before losing re-election to Democrat Debbie Stabenow in 2000.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...CS02/303110418
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Looks like it! Senator Amash from Michigan, could also really go a long way to helping Rand in 2016 and there could be a successor for Amash's seat we don't know of yetOriginally Posted by supermario21
Spencer Abraham also was very popular with the Arab-American community, which could help him Amash out in 2014.
Amash could be the first GOPer since Bush to get majority Arab support!
Does anyone think Governor Snyder's low approval rating would hurt Amash in a general election? Snyder and other Republicans in Michigan aren't very popular right now. It seems like kind of a bad time for Justin to run for a Senate seat when the Republican Governor is so unpopular.
For real?!
He must have been pretty horrible for people outside Michigan to have known about him and worked to get rid of him, in 2000, before advanced social media and all that.
Yep, political activism existed way back in the olden days.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
And then Bush appointed him Secretary of Energy, so he could sit in as a shill while Cheney made backroom deals with energy companies, and tried to cover up the Enron debacle. Corporatist shill.
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"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
If you think about it, Bush appointed guys to cabinet posts that lost Senate races that year lol. Spencer Abraham to Energy, John Ashcroft who lost to the dead man Mel Carnahan in Missouri as AG, etc.
I think this is where Amash's independence helps him. He really doesn't have much MIGOP blood on his fingers.
Justin really needs to run a campaign on transparench and civil liberties. It will make him very likeable with that big smile of his.
Well, I was 11 in 2000, so I wasn't exactly up to beat on politics. :PYep, political activism existed way back in the olden days.
But does he support the Right to Work law that Governor Snyder signed? That's the main reason why Snyder's poll numbers have dropped dramatically in Michigan.
Yes indeed, this is where Amash stands as an almost independent in the state, yet republicans would love him and come out in droves like needed, while the independents would as well, since he can't be pegged as one of "those" GOP guys, and the dems that could hear him talk civil liberties. It's something that would bring Amash out front from no where, like Rand did in his filibuster.
Yeah but I think Snyder has also pushed some voter ID and abortion restrictions which even someone pro-life like myself might think is a little extreme.
You're making some of us feel old! (And you're the one with "paleo" in your username).
From a computer perspective, we had e-mail, USENET, and then the internet (mid-90s). This guy named Ron Paul had Texas Straight Talk that people e-mailed around.
Just for fun, and totally off-topic:
And who can forget America Online? (that was a way for non-tech, non-corporate people to get online).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ail_and_Usenet
Email and Usenet
Main articles: e-mail, Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, and Usenet
Email is often called the killer application of the Internet. However, it actually predates the Internet and was a crucial tool in creating it. Email started in 1965 as a way for multiple users of a time-sharing mainframe computer to communicate. Although the history is unclear, among the first systems to have such a facility were SDC's Q32 and MIT's CTSS.[81]
The ARPANET computer network made a large contribution to the evolution of email. There is one report[82] indicating experimental inter-system email transfers on it shortly after ARPANET's creation. In 1971 Ray Tomlinson created what was to become the standard Internet email address format, using the @ sign to separate user names from host names.[83]
A number of protocols were developed to deliver messages among groups of time-sharing computers over alternative transmission systems, such as UUCP and IBM's VNET email system. Email could be passed this way between a number of networks, including ARPANET, BITNET and NSFNET, as well as to hosts connected directly to other sites via UUCP. See the history of SMTP protocol.
In addition, UUCP allowed the publication of text files that could be read by many others. The News software developed by Steve Daniel and Tom Truscott in 1979 was used to distribute news and bulletin board-like messages. This quickly grew into discussion groups, known as newsgroups, on a wide range of topics. On ARPANET and NSFNET similar discussion groups would form via mailing lists, discussing both technical issues and more culturally focused topics (such as science fiction, discussed on the sflovers mailing list).
During the early years of the Internet, email and similar mechanisms were also fundamental to allow people to access resources that were not available due to the absence of online connectivity. UUCP was often used to distribute files using the 'alt.binary' groups. Also, FTP e-mail gateways allowed people that lived outside the US and Europe to download files using ftp commands written inside email messages. The file was encoded, broken in pieces and sent by email; the receiver had to reassemble and decode it later, and it was the only way for people living overseas to download items such as the earlier Linux versions using the slow dial-up connections available at the time. After the popularization of the Web and the HTTP protocol such tools were slowly abandoned.
From Gopher to the WWW
Main articles: History of the World Wide Web and World Wide Web
As the Internet grew through the 1980s and early 1990s, many people realized the increasing need to be able to find and organize files and information. Projects such as Archie, Gopher, WAIS, and the FTP Archive list attempted to create ways to organize distributed data. In the early 1990s, Gopher, invented by Mark P. McCahill offered a viable alternative to the World Wide Web. However, by the mid 1990s it became clear that Gopher and the other projects fell short in being able to accommodate all the existing data types and in being able to grow without bottlenecks.[citation needed]
One of the most promising user interface paradigms during this period was hypertext. The technology had been inspired by Vannevar Bush's "Memex"[84] and developed through Ted Nelson's research on Project Xanadu and Douglas Engelbart's research on NLS.[85] Many small self-contained hypertext systems had been created before, such as Apple Computer's HyperCard (1987). Gopher became the first commonly used hypertext interface to the Internet. While Gopher menu items were examples of hypertext, they were not commonly perceived in that way.
This NeXT Computer was used by Sir Tim Berners-Lee at CERN and became the world's first Web server.
In 1989, while working at CERN, Tim Berners-Lee invented a network-based implementation of the hypertext concept. By releasing his invention to public use, he ensured the technology would become widespread.[86] For his work in developing the World Wide Web, Berners-Lee received the Millennium technology prize in 2004.[87] One early popular web browser, modeled after HyperCard, was ViolaWWW.
A turning point for the World Wide Web began with the introduction[88] of the Mosaic web browser[89] in 1993, a graphical browser developed by a team at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (NCSA-UIUC), led by Marc Andreessen. Funding for Mosaic came from the High-Performance Computing and Communications Initiative, a funding program initiated by the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 also known as the Gore Bill.[90] Mosaic's graphical interface soon became more popular than Gopher, which at the time was primarily text-based, and the WWW became the preferred interface for accessing the Internet. (Gore's reference to his role in "creating the Internet", however, was ridiculed in his presidential election campaign. See the full article Al Gore and information technology).
Mosaic was eventually superseded in 1994 by Andreessen's Netscape Navigator, which replaced Mosaic as the world's most popular browser. While it held this title for some time, eventually competition from Internet Explorer and a variety of other browsers almost completely displaced it. Another important event held on January 11, 1994, was The Superhighway Summit at UCLA's Royce Hall. This was the "first public conference bringing together all of the major industry, government and academic leaders in the field [and] also began the national dialogue about the Information Superhighway and its implications."[91]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL
In February 1991, AOL for DOS was launched using a GeoWorks interface followed a year later by AOL for Windows. This coincided with growth in pay-based online services, like Prodigy, CompuServe, and GEnie. ...
During the early 1990s, the average subscription lasted for about 25 months and accounted for $350 in total revenue.[26] AOL discontinued Q-Link and PC Link in the fall of 1994. In September 1993, AOL added USENET access to its features.[27] This is commonly referred to as the "Eternal September". AOL quickly surpassed GEnie, and by the mid-1990s, it passed Prodigy (which for several years allowed AOL advertising) and CompuServe.
In particular was the Chat Room concept from PlayNet, as opposed to the previous paradigm of CB-style channels. Chat Rooms allowed a large group of people with similar interests to convene and hold conversations in real time, including:
Private rooms – created by any user. Hold up to 23 people.
Conference rooms – created with permission of AOL. Hold up to 48 people and often moderated.
Auditoriums – created with permission of AOL. Consisted of a stage and an unlimited number of rows. What happened on the stage was viewable by everybody in the auditorium but what happened within individual rows, of up to 27 people, was viewable only by the people within those rows.
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"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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What abortion restrictions did he pass?
Regarding right to work, not sure how you guys feel about it, but Walter Block completely proved the idea wrong below:
http://lewrockwell.com/block/block214.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2377744.html
There you go FF.
It seems as though libertarians are divided on right to work laws. I'm not sure where Amash stands.
Yeah, I see nothing wrong with this other than how weak they are. We're talking about murderers here. It should be punishable as murder. Anything less is a concession to murderers.
I don't really see how a libertarian could support right to work laws other than as a pragmatic "At least the government can fix its own problem" type of thing. Its not really that big of an issue for me, but it still doesn't make any sense.
Yes, I realize that the Internet, e-mail, and early forms of IM and chat rooms existed. But the online communications weren't as advanced and what not as they are now.You're making some of us feel old! (And you're the one with "paleo" in your username).
From a computer perspective, we had e-mail, USENET, and then the internet (mid-90s). This guy named Ron Paul had Texas Straight Talk that people e-mailed around.
Just for fun, and totally off-topic:
And who can forget America Online? (that was a way for non-tech, non-corporate people to get online).
And "Paleo" has to do with paleo-con, not the fad paleo diet. And I'm not a paleo-con anymore...I'd change it to libertpaulian if I could.
Mostly I just don't understand how we lose the abortion debate so bad. I've never seen pro-lifers demonized so much as they have the last year.
The choices are between "Pro-choice" and "Quasi-pro-choice." And honestly, I think most of those in the "Quasi-pro choice" camp only hold that position because they want to punish sex, not because they really agree with us on when life begins.
What was your problem with Michigan's law?
I haven't really looked into the issue of right to work laws from a libertarian perspective, but I know that Ron and Rand both support right to work laws.
The concept of the right to work without the government stopping you is great.
The laws are not perfect, but are also a great improvement.
But Amash should not run on them.
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This is the situation in Michigan
Rep. Amash can win the Primary no question, but that's not without a lot of work. Justin Amash is the only Republican in Michigan to have a chance to win in November, any other Republican has a zero chance of winning in November. As you all know Michigan is the Mecca for unions. The State GOP made a really big mistake & rammed through right to work & it was very sneaky. That really pissed off a lot of union Democrats & Pro union Republicans. So what was to be a just a mid term election has turned into a general election cause of right to work, Republicans best chance to win State wide in Michigan are mid term elections. Justin Amash has to run on people should have a choice if they want to be in a Union or not. We would also need a Justin Amash for U.S. senate project where people would move to Michigan just to work & vote for Amash. If you are from Michigan & live out of State please consider & make plans to move back to Michigan just as soon if Justin Amash decides to run or earlier.
Maybe just the way they passed it? I don't know. I'm not really opposed to what's in the law, but I'd rather have them be up front about it. It's almost as if the pro-life movement is embarrassed to pass laws restricting the abortion so they use tactics which bring negative light to it. They used an omnibus budget technique to rush the bill. Just do it the normal way. Most of those lawmakers were elected to carry out a pro-life agenda anyways.
Isn't that basically what the Michigan Right to Work bill did?
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