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    U.S Special Forces Told to leave Afghan province

    Allegations of disappearances, torture and beheadings by elite Special forces:

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    The Afghan president has ordered US special forces to leave Wardak province within two weeks.

    The decision was being taken due to allegations of disappearances and torture by Afghans considered to be part of US special forces, said a spokesman for Hamid Karzai.

    The strategically significant, central province of Wardak has been the recent focus of counter-insurgency operations.

    A US statement said it took all allegations of misconduct seriously.

    But the US could not comment specifically on this latest development "until we have had a chance to speak with senior government officials", the statement by a spokesman for US special forces said.

    "This is an important issue that we must discuss with our Afghan counterparts," the statement said.

    The Afghan president's office said the decision to order the expulsion of US special forces had been taken at a meeting of the National Security Council.

    "After a thorough discussion, it became clear that armed individuals named as US special force[s] stationed in Wardak province engage in harassing, annoying, torturing and even murdering innocent people," it said.

    "A recent example in the province is an incident in which nine people were disappeared in an operation by this suspicious force and in a separate incident a student was taken away at night from his home, whose tortured body with throat cut was found two days later under a bridge.

    "However, Americans reject having conducted any such operation and any involvement of their special force.

    "The meeting strongly noted that such actions have caused local public resentment and hatred."

    The presidential statement said Afghan forces were "duty bound" to put a stop to such behaviour, and urged local people to co-operate in bringing them to justice.

    In a hastily convened news conference, a presidential spokesman suggested many of the allegations centred on Afghan citizens he alleged were working with US special forces.

    "There are some individuals, some Afghans, who are working within these cells, within these [US] special forces groups" in Wardak province, said spokesman Aimal Faizi.

    "But they are part of US special forces according to our sources and according to our local officials working in the province," he said.

    He said all special forces must leave Wardak within two weeks.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21566295



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    The last part is interesting.

    The bulk of Nato's 100,000 troops are due to leave by the end of that year.

    One can only hope!
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    Wow. There is only one explanation for this. Robert Bales must have escaped prison. Remember him, that random army Staff Sergeant that just snapped one night, walked off his post "alone", murdered and tortured several Afghans in one village, came back to the camp for pizza and beer, and then left to repeat the act at another nearby village. This guy just snapped, bad apple, random chaos event and all that. There can't possibly be others!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The last part is interesting.

    The bulk of Nato's 100,000 troops are due to leave by the end of that year.

    One can only hope!
    They will never, ever leave. Just another trick by Obama on his (il)liberal base.

    Military casualties and counter-insurgency operations have increased massively over the last few years if you look at the stats. There is no drawdown and they're not going to leave those prized poppy fields in the hands of Afghans, they will simply rename the force something else like "Peace corps" and remain there forever.

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    Well , if any of this is true ( doubtful at this time as is) , the people of Wardak are in deep $#@!, because fellow Afghans would have been leading these operations and will still be there once the " Americans" are sent away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itshappening View Post
    They will never, ever leave. Just another trick by Obama on his (il)liberal base.

    Military casualties and counter-insurgency operations have increased massively over the last few years if you look at the stats. There is no drawdown and they're not going to leave those prized poppy fields in the hands of Afghans, they will simply rename the force something else like "Peace corps" and remain there forever.
    Yeah I know. And any "draw down" will be sent to places like Mali and Niger. Still, one can hope. Keep hope alive Jesse Jackson Jr!
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    Quote Originally Posted by itshappening View Post
    They will never, ever leave. Just another trick by Obama on his (il)liberal base.

    Military casualties and counter-insurgency operations have increased massively over the last few years if you look at the stats. There is no drawdown and they're not going to leave those prized poppy fields in the hands of Afghans, they will simply rename the force something else like "Peace corps" and remain there forever.
    i've seen the deployment schedule - no brigade sized unit is scheduled to rotate to Afghanistan after March of this year.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

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