BREAKING: New Jersey House Passes 22 Gun Control Bills

[sailingaway]

“The New Jersey Assembly’s majority Democrats, citing the elementary-school massacre in Newtown, Conn., passed 22 gun-control bills Thursday that backers said would help curb gun violence,” philly.com reported at 3am this morning. The new bills limit ammunition magazines to 10 rounds (A1329), outlaw .50 caliber rifles (A3659), create weapon-free school zones (A1387), require background checks for private gun sales (A3748) and require safety training for people seeking firearm purchase permits (A3510). [Breakdown of provisions after the jump.] “We are not seeking to prevent law-abiding citizens from purchasing, owning, utilizing their guns. We are not trying to impede hunters and sportsmen in the state,” Assembly Speaker Sheila Oliver (D., Essex) said before the votes. Senate passage is a done deal. All eyes turn to Governor Christie, whose non-committal comments offer little cause for hope of a veto . . .

“I’m a little surprised at how quickly they’ve done it,” Christie said Thursday after a political event in Sea Bright, where he picked up the Democratic mayor’s endorsement. “This is a very difficult issue and a complex one. And one that our national government has taken a long time to look at and study. It’s amazing to me how quickly the Assembly can move when they want to.”

Not to put too fine a point on it, another one bites the dust. Here are the new laws’ provisions as described by the Associated Press:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...control-bills/

[aGameOfThrones]

create weapon-free school zones (A1387),“We are not seeking to prevent law-abiding citizens from purchasing, owning, utilizing their guns. We are not trying to impede hunters and sportsmen in the state,” Assembly Speaker Sheila Oliver (D., Essex) said before the votes.

LOL

[AuH20]

Hunters and sportmens make up a small fraction of the gun owning community. The dems know this.

[QuickZ06]

LOL

It will work, the facts are there....o wait.

[shane77m]

tar and feathers are too good for the ones that voted for this

[Lucille]

So they didn't grandfather anything they banned? Wow.

It’s amazing to me how quickly the Assembly can move when they want to.

When destroying liberties and controlling an alleged free people, like spending other people's money, they live for it. I'm not sure what's so amazing about it.

All eyes turn to Governor Christie, whose non-committal comments offer little cause for hope of a veto

Fat chance!

Reduce the maximum capacity of magazines to 10 rounds, as also proposed in federal legislation. New Jersey already has a 15-round cap. Retired police officers would be exempt from the reduction.
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Require background checks on private sales of handguns, rifles, or shotguns through a licensed retail dealer. Transactions between immediate family members, law enforcement officers and licensed collectors would be exempt.
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Prohibit the state Treasury from investing any assets of pensions or annuity funds in companies that manufacture, import, or sell assault firearms for civilian use. The bill exempts investments in companies that manufacture, import, or sell assault firearms for use by the military or law enforcement agencies.

But of course.

Prohibit a person named on the consolidated federal terrorist watch list from obtaining a firearm by disqualifying him or her from being issued a firearms ID card or a permit to purchase a handgun.

Like "peaceful terrorists?"

Thus, a terrorist is a person with political, social or ideological goals that are both deeply held and highly critical of the U.S. government. He may use violence; he may not. The “peaceful terrorist” attempts to influence society in ways that others sometimes find intimidating; for example, he may insist on owning a gun. The terrorist is also “clandestine”; that is, he cleaves to privacy and resists surveillance.

The “peaceful terrorist” is a libertarian standing in the good company of others who dissent; for example, those who believe “freedom of speech” has a literal meaning.

Conclusion

The transformation of the word “terrorist” has shifted focus from the raw reality of state violence onto the mere possibility of individual violence, which is defined broadly enough to include dissent. In a stunning lexical victory, the police state has become the victim. Those who peacefully exercise their natural rights have become the terrorists.

[Root]

I hate living in this state.

[Anti Federalist]

“We are not seeking to prevent law-abiding citizens from purchasing, owning, utilizing their guns. We are not trying to impede hunters and sportsmen in the state,” Assembly Speaker Sheila Oliver (D., Essex)

This is not an assault! This is not an assault!

[Anti Federalist]

Oh, and you won't hear a peep out of any NJ gun owners either.

Cops and "Troopers" have this weird almost cult status.

Compliance will be complete, total and not a $#@! will be given.

Except by Christie, who now has a choice to make, does he want run for President and veto this or keep being The Guv and vote for it.

Veto and loses his NJ spot.

Sign it and he's the walking dead nationally.

[Nirvikalpa]

I hate living in this state.

The State hates you (and me) more.

[QuickZ06]

I hate living in this state.

GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE NOW! If I was you I would run straight to NH and never look back.

[Acala]

Flee New Jersey!!!

[Lucille]

Vote with your feet, peeps!

[Nirvikalpa]

GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE NOW! If I was you I would run straight to NH and never look back.

If you can guarantee me a job and apartment, I'd be there.

Now, would you really run straight to NH, or would you have to seriously consider your financial/familial situation? Not everything is as easy as some people on this forum would like to believe...

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Vote with your feet, peeps!

Already happening.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...aving_new.html

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Oh, and you won't hear a peep out of any NJ gun owners either.

Cops and "Troopers" have this weird almost cult status.

Compliance will be complete, total and not a $#@! will be given.

Except by Christie, who now has a choice to make, does he want run for President and veto this or keep being The Guv and vote for it.

Veto and loses his NJ spot.

Sign it and he's the walking dead nationally.

Nice analysis. This would make a good article.

What do you think he'll do? He recently vetoed the minimum wage increase, but then he proposed a lessor increase of his own.

[Acala]

If you can guarantee me a job and apartment, I'd be there.

Now, would you really run straight to NH, or would you have to seriously consider your financial/familial situation? Not everything is as easy as some people on this forum would like to believe...

Pretty hard to walk away from a job in this economy. Realistically, it takes planning.

[Lucille]

Already happening.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...aving_new.html

62 percent of interstate moves involving New Jerseyans last year were people leaving the state.

If they're progs, hopefully they won't bring their filthy ideology with them to destroy more states, hm? Or maybe it's like their "long march through the institutions." Since that was so "successful," maybe they've started their long march through the states.

This should be updating soon:

American Migration [Interactive Map]
http://www.forbes.com/special-report...migration.html

[Brett85]

Christie can just forget about running for President if he signs this.

[compromise]

Christie can just forget about running for President if he signs this.

Christie will probably sign some, but not all of them.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chris...ooting-2012-12

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican who has long been a supporter of stricter gun control laws, said that gun control should be part of a "national discussion" in the wake of the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., last Friday.

[AFPVet]

Pretty hard to walk away from a job in this economy. Realistically, it takes planning.

Indeed. You have to first ensure employment and housing prospects—and then have the necessary funds for relocation. It's not that easy.

[Chester Copperpot]

If you can guarantee me a job and apartment, I'd be there.

Now, would you really run straight to NH, or would you have to seriously consider your financial/familial situation? Not everything is as easy as some people on this forum would like to believe...

Im in NJ.. Id prob run to pennsylvania..

[Acala]

Christie will probably sign some, but not all of them.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chris...ooting-2012-12

Okay, we can have a discussion.

No.

Discussion over.

[QuickZ06]

If you can guarantee me a job and apartment, I'd be there.

Now, would you really run straight to NH, or would you have to seriously consider your financial/familial situation? Not everything is as easy as some people on this forum would like to believe...

It is a tough one to move like that no doubt and even harder when you got a family when it is not just yourself to move. But if I had been living there for more than a few years especially with the personal income tax you have there and not to mention that god awful show that I am not going to even mention that state let happen (jokes) I would have been long gone by now. With the free state project and the resources they provide it seems sensible to be out in 2-3 years.

[Philhelm]

Im in NJ.. Id prob run to pennsylvania..

Eventually people will run out of places to run to. And then?

In some ways, I think that this barrage against the 2nd Amendment is a good thing, since I'm tired of the limp-wrists skirting the issue. Come and take them nancy-boys.

[satchelmcqueen]

they outlawed the 50cal! next step shotguns.

[Root]

The State hates you (and me) more.

Yeah, I know. In my mind, I'm free though.

GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE NOW! If I was you I would run straight to NH and never look back.

That's the long term plan. My company has offices in NH but my prospects are not good right now because we've been in a "hiring freeze" for about 3 years. As a skier, I want to live in the mountains very badly though.

Im in NJ.. Id prob run to pennsylvania..

That's my short term plan. Probably Northern Bucks or Montgomery county.

[DGambler]

The State hates you (and me) more.

I'll keep saying this... It's NOT hate, that would require emotional capacity... It is pure unadulterated psychopathy and the desire for the power of control over people.

Stop thinking these people play by our rules. The more quickly you do, the more quickly it all makes sense.

[shane77m]

Eventually people will run out of places to run to. And then?

In some ways, I think that this barrage against the 2nd Amendment is a good thing, since I'm tired of the limp-wrists skirting the issue. Come and take them nancy-boys.

Exactly. People talk about moving to a different country. Then what? What is happening here will eventually happen there. A person can only run so far.

[ClydeCoulter]

Didn't ROMNEY pass gun control laws, and that stopped his national campaign how?