I seriously doubt adoption's turn out any better in Russia percentage-wise than they do here. This is a political game by 2 violent monopolies known as government.
Like I said before though; I can see why other countries think we are a violent bunch of psychos. Our media portrays us to be just that.
Certainly. We think of ourselves that way. And when the numbers are churned out that show how low violent crime actually is in America, especially outside some of our third-world like cities, people don't even believe them. Almost everything is awesome, and no one appreciates it. We're living in the most comfortable, safe, time in human history and it is totally wasted on us. We aren't even willing to accept it.Originally Posted by fr33
For all the progress we've made, we refuse to even acknowledge that things are improving. And maybe that is a good thing. Maybe it means we aren't willing to settle for the status quo, ever. Hopefully it keeps driving us forward, and inspiring us to treat each other better, help each other more, and embrace the economic policies that have made us so wealthy. That's my hope, anyway.
We like war!
My music/art page is here"government is the enemy of liberty"-RPThat which doesn't kill me has made a grave tactical error
And the plot thickens. The mother of the Russian 'orphans' asks the Russian government to restore her parental rights so she can raise her surviving son.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ther-dead.html
more at linkThe Russian birth mother of two boys who were adopted by a Texas couple appealed to President Vladimir Putin Wednesday, asking that her younger son be returned to her after his three-year-old brother died under suspicious circumstances.
Yulia Kuzmina, 23, lost custody of her sons, Maksim (Max) and Kirill, in 2011 after she had been deemed unfit to raise them due to her addiction to alcohol.
In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
WTF?
Progress on what front?
Treat one another better? Wealth?
I'm just over half a century old and in my lifetime I have observed the exact opposite of what you describe..
Please tell me this was intended as sarcasm....
Here's another adoptee who should be grateful she was shipped off to America where almost everything is awesome. (Just sarcastically quoting the previously stated sentiment.)
She ended up tossed from home to home, landed on the street, and not surprisingly, under her awesome circumstances, was busted in a drug deal. This isn't a new case, but it's getting some press today, so I thought I would link it.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/18584499.cms
Halt adoption by foreigners: Activists
ByAmbika Pandit, TNN | Feb 20, 2013, 04.43 AM IST
NEW DELHI: Jennifer Edgell Haynes was placed in an orphanage by her poverty-stricken mother when she was five years old. It gave her away in adoption to an American couple through court orders, without obtaining her mother's consent. However, what appeared to be a successful adoption was followed by constant dislocation of Haynes, who was tossed from one foster parent to another, ultimately finding herself dumped on Indian shores as a "deportee".
Haynes, now 31, is torn between her fight for survival and the urge to be reunited with her husband and two children, aged nine and 10, back in the US. On Tuesday, Jennifer's plight helped crystallize the demand for a "moratorium on inter-country adoptions" till a comprehensive law on adoption is put in place. Poor parents who lost their children to trafficking in the name of inter-country adoption as well as activists came together in the capital.
Child rights activists were brought together by Pune-based voluntary organization Sakhi, Against Child Trafficking (ACT-Brussels), and Delhi-based HAQ-Centre for Child Rights. The capital will witness a two-day international conference, from February 19 to 20, on adoption, organized by Central Adoption Resource Agency and the women and child development ministry.
TOI had reported Haynes' case on November 7, 2010, when US President Barack Obama visited India. Haynes had written an open letter to him in Mumbai. Haynes now earns a living by working at a Mumbai call centre. Though she fears being turned out again, the hope of reuniting with her children in Michigan keeps her going.
Haynes was adopted by an American couple from a Mumbai orphanage in 1989. Unfortunately for the five-year-old, her foster family didn't want to keep after two years. The adoption agency reportedly handed Haynes over to another American couple in Michigan. But that was not the end of her trials. Haynes claims her new foster parents exploited her and she was forced to seek refuge in other foster homes, eventually ending up on America's mean streets.
Things settled down a bit when she married but this newfound stability was short-lived. Haynes was deported to India when she was caught in a drug case in 2008.
She was told she wasn't an American citizen and had no right to stay in the US.
She says, "Till then I thought I was very much an American but when the immigration officials saw my papers, it came to light that the documentation process for my US citizenship was not complete. My adoptive parents had never bothered to complete the process. I was put in a plane, and sent back to India. It happened on July 2, which was also my wedding anniversary."
Haynes' letter to Obama asked for a chance to be united with her children Kadafi, and Kassana. Her only link with them is through phone. Haynes says the problem of being deported to her "home" country is faced by most adopted children. Activist Arun Dohle from network ACT says that Haynes case brings to the fore the dangers of inter-country adoption. Anjali Pawar, director of the NGO Sakhi, is supporting Haynes in her fight for justice. She says, "Her case reveals that adoptive families did not do the needful for completing formalities for getting her an American citizenship. This entire process needs to be examined."
In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
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Last edited by thequietkid10; 02-21-2013 at 07:38 PM.
doesn't this basically boil down to "a select group of people are being violent assholes so the Indian/Russian/Timbuktu government should step in and shut down the entire process "for the children" because of these assholes." Isn't this the same basic arguement for drug prohabition. "A percentage of the population can't handle hard drugs and there children suffer for it, so we should ban all hard drugs."
Somehow I don't imagine very many "Foreign kid gets adaopted by loving American couple has a happier healther life then if he stayed in the shithole he came from" to be a very common news story. Especially from news outlets like RT that (rightly or wrongly) already have a bent against the United States.
Last edited by thequietkid10; 02-21-2013 at 07:42 PM.
So we should just claim American Exceptionalism and demand that foreign countries continue to surrender their children to us?
In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
First off pointing out that certain foreign outlets media tend to do stories that more often critical of the US does not equal Exceptionalism.
Second, what exactly do you mean by "demand that foreign countries continue to surrender their children to us" that's not how I understand adoption to be at all. If the Russian government or any government bans children from being adopted by Americans. Then most people who want to adapt will just find another way.
And the vast majority of those who would still want to adopt children from these nations, would be doing so because they are already financially or personally invested in the process.
Last edited by thequietkid10; 02-21-2013 at 10:14 PM.
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