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    Default Israel Anderson: Ron Paul has NOT gone to the UN to strong-arm RonPaul.com

    People who would put up their real name while defending or smearing another, putting their own reputation on the line, speaks many folds more than those who would not.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAwgSWzQFwQ

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    the people at RonPaul.com are untrustworthy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    the people at RonPaul.com are untrustworthy
    and why is that?

    Is milking Ron Paul supporters for a multi level marketing scam where milk shake powder and vitamin packs sell for 3x the price of a health food store "trustworthy"?

    Why did Ron Paul's internet geniuses let the domain lapse in the first place? They need to pay a price for that.

    Free Market is only Free and Trustworthy when Doug Wead or Israel Anderson try it, but when the RonPaul.com people do it it's not free and trustworthy. Got it.

    There's a reason Wead laughs so much.
    Michael Moore on Shootings: Maybe it's the Drugs not the Guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk
    I don't put this clown in my sig because I like him. This is a damn effective way to fight the grabbers. I've seen it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Piper View Post
    and why is that?

    Is milking Ron Paul supporters for a multi level marketing scam where milk shake powder and vitamin packs sell for 3x the price of a health food store "trustworthy"?

    Why did Ron Paul's internet geniuses let the domain lapse in the first place? They need to pay a price for that.

    Free Market is only Free and Trustworthy when Doug Wead or Israel Anderson try it, but when the RonPaul.com people do it it's not free and trustworthy. Got it.

    There's a reason Wead laughs so much.
    Nothing about domains is free market from what I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    Nothing about domains is free market from what I can tell.
    What about domains is *not* free market?

    It's first come first served, unless we're talking about trademarks.

    If these aren't examples of a "free market" please explain your understanding of the term and why domains are excluded.

    Sedo - The world's leading domain marketplace
    Afternic boasts over 3 million domain names available for purchase on their aftermarket platform.
    Bido is a 1 a day, domain name auction service
    DomainMonkey is a domain auction and parking website
    NameJet allows its customers to backorder a domain name and set a price up to which they are willing to go
    Michael Moore on Shootings: Maybe it's the Drugs not the Guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk
    I don't put this clown in my sig because I like him. This is a damn effective way to fight the grabbers. I've seen it work.

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    Okay. Watched 1/2 the video. Mr. Anderson's argument seems to be this.

    1) By purchasing a domain name through ICANN, the RonPaul.com owner voluntarily submitted himself to the ICANN dispute resolution process.
    2) The ICANN dispute resolution process may be part of the U.N. but that's besides the point.
    3) Ron Paul is just following that process.

    Okay. So any time a international government agency takes on monopoly powers and a businessman "voluntarily submits" to those powers, it's still within libertarian principles to go to that international government agency to "exercise my rights" under those powers and I'll pretend I'm not actually doing that because the person "volunteered" to the process? WTF?
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    Eze 22:25 There's a conspiracy of prophets within her....

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Piper View Post
    What about domains is *not* free market?

    It's first come first served, unless we're talking about trademarks.

    If these aren't examples of a "free market" please explain your understanding of the term and why domains are excluded.

    Sedo - The world's leading domain marketplace
    Afternic boasts over 3 million domain names available for purchase on their aftermarket platform.
    Bido is a 1 a day, domain name auction service
    DomainMonkey is a domain auction and parking website
    NameJet allows its customers to backorder a domain name and set a price up to which they are willing to go
    My understanding is this one body has a monopoly and you take a domain subject to its precise rules of how you can use it, which rules Ron is claiming under. However, he tried to buy it first at what he thought was market value. Now it is for sale on whosis and if someone else buys it do you really think the value they pay above what Ron would would be based on the site as used to date? Or would it be based on Ron's fame and potential, the precise type of thing not allowed by the domain rules the site owner took it subject to?

    However, while domains seem to be nauseatingly UN free market, that doesn't prevent the two sides from voluntarily negotiating a result to settle it and I really hope they do.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    “To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.” ― Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Piper View Post
    and why is that?

    Is milking Ron Paul supporters for a multi level marketing scam where milk shake powder and vitamin packs sell for 3x the price of a health food store "trustworthy"?

    Why did Ron Paul's internet geniuses let the domain lapse in the first place? They need to pay a price for that.

    Free Market is only Free and Trustworthy when Doug Wead or Israel Anderson try it, but when the RonPaul.com people do it it's not free and trustworthy. Got it.

    There's a reason Wead laughs so much.
    Okay. I missed the milk shake powder vitamin pack thingy. But I do plan to get into some kind of network marketing myself. The biggest deficiency of this movement is that it's all been about "Send moneybomb donations to the campaign even if you're barely getting by financially". As a group we need to look at ways to help each other become financially independent. Seriously, I've seen somebody post a request for emergency food aid! I ain't mad at the person, but if all we're about is gathering money for some campaign staff to waste spend, what good is that?

    Alright, enough soapboxing. As to your point about the free market, I agree. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't know the full story behind RonPaul.com per se, but people surrounding Ron Paul making 6 figure salaries have been woefully negligent in securing domain names.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Eze 22:25 There's a conspiracy of prophets within her....

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Piper View Post
    Is milking Ron Paul supporters for a multi level marketing scam where milk shake powder and vitamin packs sell for 3x the price of a health food store "trustworthy"?
    I don't think anyone is milking anyone. In fact Doug has been quote upfront and honest about what he is doing with Isagenix.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Piper View Post
    Why did Ron Paul's internet geniuses let the domain lapse in the first place? They need to pay a price for that.
    Dunno if anyone in any of Ron's organizations actually owned RonPaul.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I don't think anyone is milking anyone. In fact Doug has been quote upfront and honest about what he is doing with Isagenix.

    Dunno if anyone in any of Ron's organizations actually owned RonPaul.com
    I dont think so.. it would sold on ebay to the current owners.

    It certainly is out of character for Ron.. I will say that..

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