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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    ok.. you live in Mass.. a big storm's comin' you're properly stocked at home and had no plans to go out .. the moron.. er Governor says stay home...
    The healthy disrespect for authority starts to bubble up.. you grab your keys....
    If it is really bad then I would rather walk. I don't want to get in a accident when I can avoid it. The fines are stupid. If people for whatever reason want to risk their life on the roads, it is their business. If they get hurt or killed for being on unsafe roads, then a fine would be silly. You can't legislate good sense.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    If it is really bad then I would rather walk. I don't want to get in a accident when I can avoid it. The fines are stupid. If people for whatever reason want to risk their life on the roads, it is their business. If they get hurt or killed for being on unsafe roads, then a fine would be silly. You can't legislate good sense.
    The fines and punishments are not stupid, when you consider this has nothing to do with "public safety".

    It's control, that's it and that's all.

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    MA governor going to speak saturday morning to comfort his citizens


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    My wife is from Taxachusetts; the '78 Blizzard is fresh in her family's minds. I grew up in Virginia, where two inches of snow is enough to cripple the Tidewater for several days. She informed me that 3,000 cars were stranded up and down Route 128 during the storm, and as I checked into what she had to say, she was right - 54 people died in that storm, and many lost their lives while stranded on those roads.

    Those deaths were caused not by ignorance, as only one of the three Boston TV news weatherguessers were forecasting anything more than a 6" snowfall. The population of the Northeast simply didn't know it was going to be as bad as it was.

    There was no internet. No cell phones. No twitter - and no twitpic. No instagram. No email. No Drudge Report. If a person keeps even a cursory eye on the news, it's impossible to say that those in the Northeast today had no idea it was coming.

    I said all that to say this: I learned of this fine/incarceration threat, this declaration of martial law, by way of a WBZ Boston TV news live stream. My reaction? "Christ, they can't take away people's rights to be idiots!" Setting the argument of placing first responders at risk aside for the moment, I'm right. AntiFed is right. I find that he often is.

    What really got my wife's dander up was when I started to talk about fear, and how fear is used to control people. This is at the root of this declaration - an executive order of the Massachusetts governor. It's just hard for people to digest mentally that government is in the business of controlling people, and business is good. Considering that in our modern era we have means of communications and methods of informing ourselves that were beyond even the imagination of those who lived through the Blizzard of '78, we also have a level of apathy beyond the comprehension of those people as they were living through it. That moment in time is past, when people were expected to be able to ascertain risks, take precautions, and care for themselves.

    We're all the victims of our own success, is what I'm trying to say. End result? Even the woman I love fails to see oppressive government being oppressive, even as she watches it unfold in real time...
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    I remember that storm well.

    It tore up the boardwalks and beachfront as bad as Sandy did.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorfolkPCSolutions View Post
    My wife is from Taxachusetts; the '78 Blizzard is fresh in her family's minds. I grew up in Virginia, where two inches of snow is enough to cripple the Tidewater for several days. She informed me that 3,000 cars were stranded up and down Route 128 during the storm, and as I checked into what she had to say, she was right - 54 people died in that storm, and many lost their lives while stranded on those roads.

    Those deaths were caused not by ignorance, as only one of the three Boston TV news weatherguessers were forecasting anything more than a 6" snowfall. The population of the Northeast simply didn't know it was going to be as bad as it was.

    There was no internet. No cell phones. No twitter - and no twitpic. No instagram. No email. No Drudge Report. If a person keeps even a cursory eye on the news, it's impossible to say that those in the Northeast today had no idea it was coming.

    I said all that to say this: I learned of this fine/incarceration threat, this declaration of martial law, by way of a WBZ Boston TV news live stream. My reaction? "Christ, they can't take away people's rights to be idiots!" Setting the argument of placing first responders at risk aside for the moment, I'm right. AntiFed is right. I find that he often is.

    What really got my wife's dander up was when I started to talk about fear, and how fear is used to control people. This is at the root of this declaration - an executive order of the Massachusetts governor. It's just hard for people to digest mentally that government is in the business of controlling people, and business is good. Considering that in our modern era we have means of communications and methods of informing ourselves that were beyond even the imagination of those who lived through the Blizzard of '78, we also have a level of apathy beyond the comprehension of those people as they were living through it. That moment in time is past, when people were expected to be able to ascertain risks, take precautions, and care for themselves.

    We're all the victims of our own success, is what I'm trying to say. End result? Even the woman I love fails to see oppressive government being oppressive, even as she watches it unfold in real time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shemdogg View Post
    MA governor going to speak saturday morning to comfort his citizens

    I feel more and more like McMurphy every day.

    A sane man thrown into the looney bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Good time to do a trial run and see how the proles obey.
    Now, we know.

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