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    Ex LAPD cop murders Ex LAPD captain's daughter & fiance as revenge for Thin Blue Line

    http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/brea...d-officer-bent

    It looks like the FBI is getting involved now. He's also Ex Navy and seems to be on some sort of mission to disrupt the LAPD.

    This article gives insight into the backstory of his motive. It appears he felt the Thin Blue Line was effectively employed against him:

    A man identified Wednesday as the suspect in the slayings of a college basketball coach and her fiance is a former LAPD Harbor Division police officer fired for falsely accusing his sergeant for kicking a man at a San Pedro hotel.

    According to an online manifesto, Christopher Jordan Dorner of La Palma might have committed the double-homicide out of revenge for his dismissal from the force.

    "Suppressing the truth will lead to deadly consequences for you and your family," according to an excerpt of the manifesto posted on the KTLA news website. "There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep."

    Dorner was charged by his own department in 2007 with making false statements to detectives investigating


    Monica Quan (file)
    a false complaint he made against a female police sergeant. A Los Angeles police Board of Rights disciplinary hearing included testimony from numerous Los Angeles police and port police officers, according to a 2nd District Court of Appeal document posted online.
    The Los Angeles Times reported that the coach's father, a longtime LAPD officer, represented Dorner before the review board that fired him.

    "The Los Angeles Police Department Board of Rights found that (Dorner's) complaint was false and therefore terminated his employment for making false statements," the document said.

    Dorner was identified Wednesday evening as a wanted suspect in the shooting death of Monica Quan and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, in Irvine. Quan,

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    the assistant basketball coach at Cal State Fullerton, was the daughter of a longtime LAPD officer, Randy Quan.
    At Dorner's disciplinary hearing, numerous officers testified about a July 28, 2007, "use of force" incident at the Doubletree Hotel in San Pedro in which Dorner's training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, shot a mentally ill man with a Taser gun to subdue him when Dorner and the man struggled and fell into bushes.

    Other officers and witnesses described the use of force similarly,


    A photograph from an LAPD newsletter in 2006. It shows Dorner in fatigues, left, with former Los Angeles police Chief William Bratton as part of a program to honor officers who served in the military.
    but Dorner filed a report saying Evans had kicked the man twice in the shoulder and face, and discouraged him from including the information in his police report.
    "(Dorner) was visibly upset when he spoke with Capt. Deming, and Capt. Deming believed this was caused by fear of repercussions for reporting misconduct by a training officer," the appellate ruling said. "Because of his fear of repercussions, (Dorner) told Capt. Deming, 'Promise me you won't do anything.' "

    Dorner later said someone urinated on his equipment bag at the Harbor Division station, but an analysis showed no urine on his jacket.

    Evans testified that she and Dorner confronted a man on a bench outside the hotel's main door. Evans said the man appeared either mentally ill or under the influence. Dorner told him to stand up, but the man did not comply, so Dorner lifted him up by the arm.

    As they walked near a planter, the suspect took a swing at Dorner and cussed at him, prompting Evans to pull a Taser gun and call for backup. When Dorner and the man fell into the bushes, Evans shot the man twice with the Taser and Dorner handcuffed him. The suspect had marks on his face, but no boot marks, the document said.

    Dorner took a long time to write his use of force report, and was told later by Evans in an evaluation that he needed to take less time to write his reports.

    "Evans also had indicated in an evaluation that appellant needed to improve in the areas of officer safety and common sense and good judgment," the document said.

    Dorner, however, testified that Evans kicked the suspect twice in the left collarbone and the left cheek.

    "Dorner also testified that he was hesitant to report the kicks because when he was in the police academy, he had reported an incident in which two recruits were using a racial epithet against another recruit. He had been shunned by other recruits after that, so he did not want to speak up again," the document said.

    Dorner, who graduated from the police academy in February 2006, spent 13 months on a military deployment in 2006. When he returned, he was assigned to the Harbor Division and worked with Evans.

    Detectives investigating Dorner's complaints against Evans found no evidence to support them.

    "After reviewing all the evidence, the Board stated that it could not find that the kicks occurred," the document said, siding with testimony of other officers and witnesses.

    "The Board found that appellant had failed to report the alleged kicks, despite numerous opportunities to do so, and that his testimony regarding his reasons for not reporting the kicks was not credible."

    The Board suspected Dorner made the false report because he was going to receive an unsatisfactory probationary rating, and found him guilty of making the false charges. Dorner then lost his job.

    Dorner appealed, but the court upheld the LAPD's decision to terminate him.

    Dorner's manifesto indicated he was seeking revenge against Quan, Evans and others.

    "I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead," it read. "This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. Your day has come."

    A photograph in an LAPD newsletter in 2006 shows Dorner in fatigues with former Los Angeles police Chief William Bratton as part of a program to honor officers who served in the military.
    More stories:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,6277685.story

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...spect/1897813/

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/07...-coach-fiance/
    Last edited by noneedtoaggress; 02-07-2013 at 03:00 AM.



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    Haven't read this yet but it's supposed to be his manifesto:

    From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648

    To: America

    Subj: Last resort

    Regarding CF# 07-004281

    I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.

    The question is, what would you do to clear your name?

    Name;
    A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.

    Name Synonyms;
    reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.

    A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. It’s your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything you’ve worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Don’t let anybody tarnish it when you know you’ve live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos.

    In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. XXXX/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (XXXXX), XXXX kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. XXXX), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed “Blue Line”. Unfortunately, It’s not JUST US, it’s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting XXXX for kicking Mr. XXXXX. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that XXXX had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where XXXXX stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer XXX (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to XXXXXX stating he was kicked, his father XXXXX, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. XXXXX, Capt. XXXXX, and City Attorney XXXX had a significant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. XXXXXX was a personal friend of XXXX from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. XXXXX. XXXXX also had a conflict of interest as she was XXXX friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to XXXX and it was denied.

    During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, XXXXX, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for XXXX when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How $#@!ing dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. XXXX about the incident when Ofcr. XXXX began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.

    The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers XXXXX IV and XXXX (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard XXXX refer to another individual as a ******. I wasn’t sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer XXXX call an indivdual a ****** again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told XXXX not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well-known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, “I’ll say it when I want”. Officer XXXX, a friend of his, also stated that he would say ****** when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around XXXXs’ neck and squeezed. I stated to XXXX, “Don’t $#@!ing say that”. At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana’s skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately. The sad thing about this incident was that when Detective XX from internal affairs investigated this incident only (1) officer (unknown) in the van other than myself had statements constistent with what actually happened. The other six officers all stated they heard nothing and saw nothing. Shame on every one of you. Shame on Detective XX (same ethnicity as XXX) for creating a separate 1.28 formal complaint against me (XXXX complaint) in retaliation for initiating the complaint against XXXXX and XXXX. Don’t retaliate against honest officers for breaking your so-called blue line. I hope your son XXXX, who I knew, is a better officer than you, Detective XX. The saddest part of this ordeal was that Officer XXXX and XXXXX were only given 22 day suspensions and are still LAPD officers to this day. That day, the LAPD stated that it is acceptable for fellow officers to call black officers ******s to their face and you will receive a slap on the wrist. Even sadder is that during that 22 day suspension XXXXX and XXXXX received is that the LAPPL (Los Angeles Police Protective League) paid the officers their salaries while they were suspended. When I took a two-day suspension for an accidental discharge, I took my suspension and never applied for a league salary. Its called integrity.

    Journalist, I want you to investigate every location I resided in growing up. Find any incidents where I was ever accused of being a bully. You won’t, because it doesn’t exist. It’s not in my DNA. Never was. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from first grade to seventh grade in junior high and any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood schoolyard fights, or calling me a ****** or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian elementary school in Norwalk, CA. A fellow student, Jim Armstrong if I can recall, called me a ****** on the playground. My response was swift and non-lethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch an kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted Jim for using a derogatory word toward me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking Jim in response to him calling me a ******. He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I’m not a $#@!ing Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a ******. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being. That day I made a life decision that i will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Terminating me for telling the truth of a Caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. Don’t ever call me a $#@!ing bully. I want all journalist to utilize every source you have that specializes in collections for your reports. With the discovery and evidence available you will see the truth. Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. That’s what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name. Below is a list of locations where I resided from childhood to adulthood.

    Cerritos, CA.
    Pico Rivera, CA.
    La Palma, CA.
    Thousand Oaks, CA.
    Cedar City, UT.
    Pensacola, FL.
    Enid, OK.
    Yorba Linda, CA.
    Las Vegas, NV.

    During the BOR an officer named, Sgt. XXXX, from Los Angeles Port Police testified on behalf of the LAPD. XXXXX stated for the BOR that he arrived at the location of the UOF shortly before I cuffed the suspect. He also stated that he assisted in cuffing the suspect and that’s old the BOR he told me to fix my tie. All of those statements were LIES!!! XXXX, you arrived at the UOF location up to 30 seconds after I had cuffed Mr.XXXX. All you did was help me lift the suspect to his feet as it was difficult for me to do by myself because of his heavy weight. You did not tell me to fix my tie as the BOR members and everyone else in the room know you lied because the photographic evidence from the UOF scene where XXXX’s injuries were photographed clearly shows me wearing a class B uniform on that day. A class B uniform is a short sleeved uniform blouse. A short sleeved uniform blouse for the LAPD does not have a tie included. This is not Super Troopers uniform, you jackass. Why did you feel the need to embellish and lie about your involvement in the UOF? Are you ashamed that you could not get hired on by any other department other than port police? Do you have delusions of grandeur? What you did was perjury, exactly what Evans did when she stated she did not kick XXXX.

    What they failed to mention in the BOR was XXXXX own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the woman’s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70’s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent. XXXX was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with XXXXX, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, XXXXX, and herself. XXXXXX is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not XXXX, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. XXXX, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when XXXX asked you if you kicked XXXXX. You destroyed my life and name because of your actions. Time is up. The time is now to confess to Chief Beck.

    I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. XXXXX who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that Evans kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#’s attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. XXXXX a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer XXXX XXXX stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to “get involved” with the BOR’s. Contact Sgt. XXXX ,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. XXXX, and Sgt. XXXXX. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. XXX and Sgt. XXXX can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandum’s, IIR’s (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.

    I had worked patrol at LAPD’s Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPD’s Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.

    I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD’s actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I’ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! XXX, XXX, XXXX , and XXXXX all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. XXXX. I know about the meeting between all of you where XXXX attorney, XXXX, confessed that she kicked XXXX (excessive force). Your day has come.

    I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.

    Luckily I don’t have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don’t have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You $#@!ers knew XXXXX was guilty of kicking (excessive force) XXXX and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. XXXX himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by Evans when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. You’re going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!

    Look what you did to Sgt. XXXXX (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. Gavin, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You’re a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.

    Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.

    From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasn’t in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it’s the police officers.

    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.

    Chief Beck, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. XXXXXX and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, Rico, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. XXXX. I’ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.

    Why didn’t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that Evans kicked Mr. XXXXX? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn’t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that’s why.

    The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIR’s on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.

    This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain XXXXXX is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware Evans has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. XXXX in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).

    No one is saying you can’t be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don’t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.

    For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers from PSB and Evans and ask them, how come you couldn’t tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.

    Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.

    Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.

    I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.

    Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target.

    Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2’s. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.

    Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I’m not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.

    Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.

    Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, ” I……don’t like conflict”. You are a high value target as well.

    Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.

    Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.

    It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.

    Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.

    You allow an officer, XXXXXX, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. XXXXX shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judge’s face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. XXXX provided the evidence and you still do nothing.

    How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”.

    No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and a substantial vetting in a backround investigation.

    To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were. As you get older,you will see the evidence that your parent was a tyrant who loss their ethos and instead followed the path of moral corruptness. They conspired to hide and suppress the truth of misconduct on others behalf’s. Your parent will have a name and plaque on the fallen officers memorial in D.C. But, In all honesty, your parents name will be a reminder to other officers to maintain the oath they swore and to stay along the shoreline that has guided them from childhood to that of a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer.

    Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
    Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.

    Never allow a LAPPL union attorney to be a retired LAPD Captain,(XXX). He doesn’t work for you, your interest, or your name. He works for the department, period. His job is to protect the department from civil lawsuits being filed and their best interest which is the almighty dollar. His loyalty is to the department, not his client. Even when he knowingly knows your innocent and the BOR also knows your innocent after Christopher Gettler stated on videotape that he was kicked and Evans attorney confessed to the BOR off the record that she kicked Gettler.

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever.

    I know your TTP’s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP’s and PPR’s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.

    I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small-scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.

    Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.

    Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? I’ll tell you. It’s not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply don’t fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.

    The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RD’s and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Ba’ath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.

    You better have all your officers radio/phone muster (code 1) on or off duty every hour, on the hour.
    Do not attempt to shadow or conduct any type of ISR on me. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations. My POA is always POI and always true. This will be a war of attrition and a Pyrrhic and Camdean Victory for myself. You may have the resources and manpower but you are reactive and predictable in your op plans and TTP’s. I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noneedtoaggress View Post
    http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/brea...d-officer-bent

    It looks like the FBI is getting involved now. He's also Ex Navy and seems to be on some sort of mission to disrupt the LAPD.

    This article gives insight into the backstory of his motive. It appears he felt the Thin Blue Line was effectively employed against him:
    SO... a cop can lose his job for saying his partner kicked someone, but if he kills/abuses an innocent person for no good reason he gets a paid vacation?

    Not backing up this guy's actions, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
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  5. #4
    He is a sicko. Attacking innocent people instead of the person he has the problem with. Sounds just like our crazy nation to be honest.

  6. #5
    Okay I just read his "manifesto".

    HOLY. $#@!.

    Clearly he's going about this the wrong way by killing innocent people, but I still feel bad for the guy on some level. He's got some legitimate grievances. It would appear the LAPD just snapped him in half. He's essentially declaring war on them for their corruption, which unfortunately appears to includes some of their innocent family members.

    It's really sad.

    I just hope this actually ends up shedding some light on the corrupt LAPD, instead of becoming a circus about an "psycho ex cop" who just went nuts in revenge with nothing resolved concerning what lead to it happening. This is his blowback.
    Last edited by noneedtoaggress; 02-07-2013 at 03:50 AM.

  7. #6
    How does this support his claim that another officer did use excessive force, if he is now a double murderer of 2 innocent people? Makes him look like a wacko, although I do not know why he would lie about an excessive force claim.

    However, killing 2 innocent people does not give you credibility which is his flaw as he wont do anything to correct the problem. If anything it makes LAPD look like they made the right decision by terminating him.
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  8. #7
    Yeah, his course of actions are truly an unfortunate outcome of the situation.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by noneedtoaggress View Post
    Yeah, his course of actions are truly an unfortunate outcome of the situation.
    No, he is an insane man, completely separate from whatever may have happened in 2006 and his termination.
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    WTF? How does that even negate what I said. Even if he is "insane" his course of actions is an unfortunate result of his life experiences. Are you saying this was completely unprovoked and he's simply killing people to satisfy some mental urge? If that were the case and it were not the result of his experiences wouldn't he picked someone at random?

    "Mental Illness" is a fiction in the first place (check out some of what Dr. Thomas Szasz wrote), as far as I'm concerned. This guy was trained to kill and felt he was personally wronged in a deep way and is clearly disturbed by a culture of corruption, and decided to go on a personal war over it because, in his subjective mind, it was his last and only resort to bring attention to and stop corrupt practices. That much is obvious by what he wrote. Clearly his resulting actions are also immoral, corrupt in themselves by a desire for vengeance, and it's utterly unfortunate as it works against him and results in loss of life of innocent people who are extremely loosely connected to the situation at all. He was trained to go to war, and that's exactly what he thinks he's doing after reaching the end of his rope.

    Saying his actions are not the result of his experiences with what happened at the LAPD, no matter how wrong they are, is pretty ridiculous.
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  12. #10
    And in case I have to make it this clear. I'm not defending his immoral actions. Any of them, including when he was exercising force as a law enforcement officer. At the end of the day the guy was a thug and his entire life has been built around initiating force as an agent of authority, in a way he perceived to be legitimately using force for good. It should be obvious enough that two wrongs don't make a right.

    And at the end of the day I realize that everyone is human too. The corrupt cops with selfish ambitions, and the cops that defy corruption and are destroyed by it, and especially the innocent people at the periphery. This guy was destroyed by it profoundly and lashed out in a violent way. I know, in a third hand sort of way, what the LAPD does to officers who attempt to speak out against it's corrupt practices. They will try to destroy you. It appears they succeeded here.

    All I'm saying is there is more to this story than "psycho ex cop murders people", and hopefully that comes up to the surface.
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  13. #11
    A tragic story that could have been avoided.
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  14. #12
    Saw this article on CBS sports: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...sketball-coach

    This is what I don't get:

    According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, saying in the course of arrest she kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.

    Following an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.

    Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer, he testified.
    The victim testifies against the other cop, this guy testifies against the other cop, but he gets fired for making false claims? I read the article in the OP, and it says the evidence against this was "The suspect had marks on his face, but no boot marks, the document said." Is that really bulletproof evidence?

    Not defending what this guy did, but I wonder if he really had a legitimate gripe against the LAPD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    He is a sicko. Attacking innocent people instead of the person he has the problem with. Sounds just like our crazy nation to be honest.
    Well he had to do it to clear his good name.

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by tasteless View Post
    This is what I don't get:

    The victim testifies against the other cop, this guy testifies against the other cop, but he gets fired for making false claims? I read the article in the OP, and it says the evidence against this was "The suspect had marks on his face, but no boot marks, the document said." Is that really bulletproof evidence?

    Not defending what this guy did, but I wonder if he really had a legitimate gripe against the LAPD...
    Read the manifesto. He brings up a few good points. (why he wasn't charged with filing false reports etc.) My opinion is that his grievances were true. (That is not to say you attack the innocent family of those who wronged you) The man obviously lost a lot that he had worked for. Goes to show that you should never underestimate the response you might get should you start $#@!ing with someone's reputation/livelihood. This all very easily could have been avoided and I do hope the officers take a lesson from this tragedy.
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  17. #15
    Well, they pissed off the wrong dude. How can his statements about the kicking be false if there is corrobating testimony from the victims and his father?

    Can't say I've ever seen a "boot mark" distinguishable from other types of injury on someone's face. What do they need, a tread pattern?
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  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by pacodever View Post
    Well, they pissed off the wrong dude. How can his statements about the kicking be false if there is corrobating testimony from the victims and his father?

    Can't say I've ever seen a "boot mark" distinguishable from other types of injury on someone's face. What do they need, a tread pattern?
    Plus, if the cop kicked his chest, like he told his dad, and his head hit the pavement or a wall, a lack of boot marks on his face is exactly what you would expect.



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    It looks like he has killed one cop and wounded two others . . . and he's still on the loose.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/ex-la-cop-sough...opstories.html

    Police in Southern California say they suspect that a fired cop is connected to the shootings -- one fatal -- of three police officers this morning, as well as the weekend slayings of an assistant women's college basketball coach and her fiancé in what cops believe are acts of revenge against the LAPD, as suggested in the suspect's online manifesto.

    Former police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, who's a U.S. Navy reservist, has been publically named as a suspect in the killings of Monica Quan, 28, and her 27-year-old fiancé, Keith Lawrence, Irvine police Chief David L. Maggard said at a news conference Wednesday night.

    "We are considering him armed and dangerous," Lt. Julia Engen of the Irvine Police Department said.

    Police say Dorner shot at four officers in two incidents overnight, hitting three of them: one in Corona, Calif., and two in Riverside, Calif.

    Sgt. Rudy Lopez of the LAPD said two LAPD officers were in Corona and headed out on special detail to check on one of the individuals named in Dorner's manifesto. Dorner allegedly grazed one of them but missed the other.
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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    It looks like he has killed one cop and wounded two others . . . and he's still on the loose.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/ex-la-cop-sough...opstories.html
    Looks like they really $#@!ed with the wrong guy.
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  22. #19
    Blue on blue
    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/02/blue-on-blue.html
    It is educational to see that when a former policeman strikes out violently at the police, he does what the police all too often do, which is target their families. This is a dangerous development I have been expecting ever since the militarization of the USA has increasingly led to family members and dogs being killed by police as a result of their dynamic entry tactics:
    [...]
    Based on what we know about the police departments, the way they treat whistleblowers, and the way they resolutely cover up the violent and criminal acts of the "one or two bad apples" that somehow never seem to be weeded out from any department, it would not surprise me to learn that many, if not most, of the allegations of LAPD misbehavior contained in Dorner's manifesto are true.

    I'm sure it will shock everyone to learn that the brave police who put their lives at risk every day are now inexplicably on edge and shooting at anything that moves. One local resident emails to tell how the media is not reporting the entire story:

    I wanted to get this information to you directly because the media will squelch the parts of the narrative they don't want aired. You know by now that a manhunt is underway for an EX COP that murdered two kids in Irvine while they sat in their parked car close to the UC Irvine campus. This guy is ex-military and was fired from the force for issuing false statements ...which is all the media is revealing at this time. He is now embarking on retribution against those that got him fired and other cops. He shot two cops in a squad car that was following him and killed one of them.

    Most of this is really unremarkable but the part I wanted you to know about was that they have shot up two trucks matching the description of the killers truck in the city of Torrence. The first truck had two older Asian ladies in it that were delivering newspapers,,,and they must have had it coming because they did not comply fast enough to satisfy the jittery cops. If that wasn't bad enough... they shot up a second truck just down the street. They told the owner to turn his truck around but again, it wasn't fast enough for the cops because they shot his truck up too!
    It seems the police behave rather differently when they know that the other side is as willing to shoot as they are. This looks to be an interesting experiment in what we were discussing here a few weeks ago, namely, how effective the force wielded by the government against a single armed man truly is.
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  23. #20
    Please note that this rogue cop is not barricaded somewhere, waiting for the police to arrive with overwhelming force. Rather, he is on the offensive, striking when they are vulnerable. Now, let us imagine that the rogue cop is a gun owner refusing to disarm.
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  24. #21
    Ban police before it happens again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Please note that this rogue cop is not barricaded somewhere, waiting for the police to arrive with overwhelming force. Rather, he is on the offensive, striking when they are vulnerable. Now, let us imagine that the rogue cop is a gun owner refusing to disarm.
    LAPD is giving an update in around 30 minutes. Should be on most major news networks. I will paraphrase the best I can. In the meantime, does anyone know where he originally posted his manifesto? It is said that he posted it to an online website. I would not be surprised if it was a cop forum or something along those lines. Maybe we can find an unedited version? (The edited version was somewhat confusing as I think multiple officers had XXXX amount of letters in their last name. Hard to get the whole story when XXXX and XXXXX were seemingly interchanged for different officers.) I'm going to do a little looking and see if I can't find it.
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  26. #23
    Unredacted version here.

    ETA: I can't find where it was originally posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Looks like they really $#@!ed with the wrong guy.
    When this happens on a larger scale, this forum refers to it as blowback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    When this happens on a larger scale, this forum refers to it as blowback.

    +rep

    Good observation, if you ask me, I think the LAPD is responsible for the death of those 2 innocent people. Take away a man's dream and goal the way these people did and pin him to the wall and he just might punch you in the balls. Not condoning what he did but I understand why he did it. I hope it ends well with no more deaths of the innocent and the wronged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Please note that this rogue cop is not barricaded somewhere, waiting for the police to arrive with overwhelming force. Rather, he is on the offensive, striking when they are vulnerable. Now, let us imagine that the rogue cop is a gun owner refusing to disarm.
    Or a "gun club" consisting of a number of veterans.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

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  31. #27
    Kinda reminds me of this movie

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  32. #28
    This is just developing. My unredacted version of his manifesto is what the OP has posted. There is another longer version where he is calling for an AWB saying that if assault weapons were banned this would not have been able to happen, stating that Diane Feinstein needs to seize the opportunity to further the AWB. It seems someone may have added it. I'm not sure, trying to read through it.

    It is here.
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    This is just developing. My unredacted version of his manifesto is what the OP has posted. There is another longer version where he is calling for an AWB saying that if assault weapons were banned this would not have been able to happen, stating that Diane Feinstein needs to seize the opportunity to further the AWB. It seems someone may have added it. I'm not sure, trying to read through it.

    It is here.
    Politically speaking, he sounds like a progressive who hasn't completely connected the dots.

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