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Thread: Why not debtors' prison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I say lock up all those that put our nation in debt.
    Those who take a government salary should be locked up, for example those in the Air Force.



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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Why must the state be accountable for a business' failure of due diligence? If you make bad loans, you should fail as a business.
    Yeah, thats what I was getting at. Someone will be punished, not by the state putting them in a cage, but by not being able to borrow as much in the future.
    No more IRS.
    I am now old enough to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpoints View Post
    then prisons would be an appropriate punishment when debts can't be expected to be paid back
    Why??
    Prisons are expensive to build and staff and maintain.
    The debt could not be paid by an inmate, in fact more would be spent on upkeep.

    How could anyone think this was ever a good idea? (likely the reason they no longer exist)
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpoints View Post
    if you're just saying we need a balance between too much fear of irresponsible loans and not enough, we agree.
    No the point is that responsible loans can default. You don't know in advance which ones will, it's called uncertainty and it exists.

    In my example, every loan was responsible. Each borrower would repay if able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    Be more careful next time you lend your money.
    Yep, lenders need to be responsible too if they are going to attempt to profit through an investment like lending.

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    How in the hell does someone in prison ever have a chance of paying off a debt?

    Not a very well thought out question.

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    Big Finance would never allow debtor's prison.
    The demand for credit would plummet.
    People wound not purchase things unless they had the money.

    I haven't read the every post in the thread, but it seems that everyone thinks the amount of loans would stay the same and we would have a huge prison system bulging at the seams with debtors.

    I don't see that. I see people taking less loans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancisMarion View Post
    Big Finance would never allow debtor's prison.
    The demand for credit would plummet.
    People wound not purchase things unless they had the money.
    I think jkr's post was closest to the truth:

    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    the UNITES STATES OF AMERICA *is* a debtors prison

    L00k around...
    We're just not intended to recognize the prison on the outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    If someone owes you money, you have the right to get that money back or equivalent property. Any judicial system, whether public or private, can handle that. What you don't have the right to is to enslave someone because they owe you money.
    So you think that if we enter into an agreement where I agree to pay you fifty bucks for a concert ticket and I never show up because I got sick or lost my fifty bucks, that you should be able to use force to come and take fifty bucks from me?
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

    "Who would be free, themselves must strike the blow." - Byron

    "Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe." - Milton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    So you think that if we enter into an agreement where I agree to pay you fifty bucks for a concert ticket and I never show up because I got sick or lost my fifty bucks, that you should be able to use force to come and take fifty bucks from me?
    If you didn't pick up the tickets then no, of course not. If you were sent the tickets with the agreement to pay for them, and then never did, then I can absolutely use force to get my money from you. I can't use force to take your car, or $100, but I can to get the $50 owed me.

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