just like it's bad enough criminals are being forced to go to prison when they never agreed to be punished for things they enjoy doing, just because the state decided it's their business to force people into certain behaviors.It's bad enough that they jail men who can't afford to pay alimony awarded by the state, when no prior contract had been entered into.
I do actually understand that, and I don't think prisons grow on trees. But somebody here was complaining that debtor prisons will make too much money we'll be worrying where to spend it, so clearly that kind of prison grows on trees.He doesn't understand that the solutions to bad behavior don't always come from the state, and thinks prisons grow on trees.
Don't double it unless it serves more good than harm.We already have the largest incarceration rate in the world....hey...why not double it?
Tpoints, why are you trolling again? The article you linked to isn't even about debtors' prisons, that's just a tag line to set up some snark.
“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
- SAMUEL ADAMS
Say, if I owe money to 4 institutions, but I'm unable to make payments on one (the least needed, say electric company) but able to keep up payments to the other 3. Now, the electric company cuts off my electric and sends me to prison until paid for previous services. This causes me to be delinquent on the other 3. So, then I must stay in prison longer to pay those off. Hmmmm
You cannot deny that making incarcerations profitable for someone will lead that someone to try to influence the government into incarcerating more people. Noted. You could have admitted that without stuffing your shit in my mouth.
Not that it matters. This so-called conversation has left me disinclined to take your word for it anyway.
The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.
"Who would be free, themselves must strike the blow." - Byron
"Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe." - Milton
the UNITES STATES OF AMERICA *is* a debtors prison
Practicality doesn't matter to you? Sorry then!So what?
Laws themselves do? Says who/what/where?They don't have to. The laws themselves do. So what?
this essentially means the state is using force to favor debtors and wrong creditors. Are you in favor of that?Which is beside your point. Which leads me to ask, so what?
then why?If he claims he had a good intent when he set out to rape someone, yes, we tell him he had bad intent. But not because we read his mind.
Ok, you have a point, people are punished differently if they intended to commit a crime vs accidentally harmed somebody. But lack of intent doesn't always mean you are completely off the hook.Meanwhile, it obviously is possible to take out a loan without bad intent. Even if you lose your job a week later.