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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    It was sarcasm.
    I thought so but some people's response have been like yours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tsai3904 View Post
    I thought so but some people's response have been like yours.
    That is because Many people automatically will try and justify ANY action by a foriegn country and look for ANY scrap of evidence that it was the US's fault, but don't ask me why.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    That is because Many people automatically will try and justify ANY action by a foriegn country and look for ANY scrap of evidence that it was the US's fault, but don't ask me why.
    Well, if you want to be global superpower who starts illegal wars and meddle against anyone who gets in your way, then yeah, expect that people are going to view you as the agressor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinchWhoStoleDC View Post
    Well, if you want to be global superpower who starts illegal wars and meddle against anyone who gets in your way, then yeah, expect that people are going to view you as the agressor.
    Yep even when it is the other country that is the aggressor. All was peace and beauty in the the world before the existence of the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Yep even when it is the other country that is the aggressor. All was peace and beauty in the the world before the existence of the US.
    There have been plenty of aggressive superpowers, the Nazis, Soviets, Brits just to name a couple, but I don't see what that has to do with the US getting accused of what it frequently does.

    Hell, the last time we were attacked by a sovereign nation was 1942, so I don't know what you're doing here if you don't feel that America has been THE major source of aggression since then.
    The kids they dance and shake their bones,
    While the politicians are throwing stones,
    And it's all too clear we're on our own,
    Singing ashes, ashes, all fall down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinchWhoStoleDC View Post
    There have been plenty of aggressive superpowers, the Nazis, Soviets, Brits just to name a couple, but I don't see what that has to do with the US getting accused of what it frequently does.

    Hell, the last time we were attacked by a sovereign nation was 1942, so I don't know what you're doing here if you don't feel that America has been THE major source of aggression since then.
    You know I really don't give a fuck why you think I should be here. I am here for MY own reasons and it is not because I think the US has been the the agressor all the time. I have absolutely no problem holding my countries feet to the fire for wrong actions I think we have done but I don't automatically try and blame EVERTHING wrong action in the world on the US even when we have nothing to do with it which many people do around here.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    You know I really don't give a fuck why you think I should be here. I am here for MY own reasons and it is not because I think the US has been the the agressor all the time. I have absolutely no problem holding my countries feet to the fire for wrong actions I think we have done but I don't automatically try and blame EVERTHING wrong action in the world on the US even when we have nothing to do with it which many people do around here.
    Example? What exactly has been levied against the federal government that they didn't deserve?

    By the way I don't care why you're here either, but I just find it bizarre why you can't see the animosity towards our government that has taken it upon itself to pre-emptively kill millions to secure resources and control, while we haven't been attacked by a nation since the 40's.
    The kids they dance and shake their bones,
    While the politicians are throwing stones,
    And it's all too clear we're on our own,
    Singing ashes, ashes, all fall down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Nonsense. Sanctions are either an act of war or they are not. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Is there some reason we should treat "international law" as authoritative on this matter?
    Yeah, because that's how every government in the world handles it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Yeah, because that's how every government in the world handles it.
    You seem to be equivocating is and ought.

    If somebody argues that sanctions are unethical because they are an act of war, the answer to that needs to be more than just, "No it's not because governments say so."

    I think the word "war" is superfluous to the argument anyway. It's like saying that a crime is somehow worse than what it is if the government calls it a hate crime or an act of terrorism.
    I’m not a libertarian. I’m not advocating everyone run around with no clothes on and smoke pot.

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