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The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
If you agree that the end justies the means then sure, send everyone off to war to end it a draft might wake people up. Who cares how to stop it, just stop it. In my view, government purchasing made in the USA perpetuates the very exisitance of the government.
If the end is to eliminate government, why would you hope that they purchase made in the USA products? It perpetuates the very exisitance of the government you wish to eliminate. Through nepotism and coporate selection on who/which companies get to provide for it.
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
OK, let's break down this logic.
"I want government to be subject to arbitrary and intense restriction by the people at large"
"OH!!!111! So you want to enslave children and send them off to die in a war!!!111!!"
most people that use such logic I call liberals, democrats, republicans, or neoconservatives.
You do know that illogical appeals to emotion are not only fallacious, but are the very weapon the left and the right use to stifle liberty.
Do you really want to be allied with such monsters?
Last edited by GunnyFreedom; 02-03-2013 at 03:54 PM.
The more I read the thread the more I think this idea is a bad one.
"We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% [the same on issues]." Ron Paul
The government should buy us the best bang for our tax dollar. Which means trading in an open world economy. However, there is a potential national security issue if supply lines are cut off in war time. So there may be an argument (in this case) for "protectionist" policies in procuring national defense products.
Weapons yes, office chairs no.
For things we have to trust buy here, but for regular items get what is cheapest.
If the government would use products to near failure instead of selling things off like trucks every 5 years we would save a lot of money.
What the government buys should have nothing to do with where it was made.
Why would anyone want their government paying higher prices(assuming identical products)? To say yes, is dumb imo, unless it is in some sort of back door way to get the government wasting money on this stuff rather than oppressing it's people.
Good point. We should start by mandating that the US government can only buy products made start to finish entirely on Wake Island. It's only 2.85 square miles and already controlled by the Fedcoats. I say it's a reasonable, temporary compromise between those who want to eliminate government purchasing entirely and those who want to limit the government to things produced inside the US. It could be promoted as the Wake Island Stimulus Program.
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
The Bastiat Collection ˇ FREE PDF ˇ FREE EPUB ˇ PAPER Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)
- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)ˇ tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ˇ
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
Apparently it is.
But why should I answer you -- you've accused me of wanting to murder children against their will in a war. You have accused me of being a Keynesian. So anything I say, no matter how benign, I am convinced you are just going to twist it into the next monstrosity that pops into your head.
From where I sit, why should I help you imagine weird crimes against me that I have never committed?
What's next, I quote a line from the Constitution and you accuse me of being a pedophile?
How about take a step back and reassess what's happening here and try starting fresh?
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