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My music/art page is here"government is the enemy of liberty"-RPEphesians 6:12 (KJV)For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.Originally Posted by Torchbearer
You stated you didn't care as long as government gets smaller or eliminated, I couldn't agree more. I think we are trying to accomplish the same ideal. I think you would support the idea because in the end it would hasten the government demise. It would collapse under it's weight. Whereas I would not want to support that notion beliving that it's not feasible.
If, we choose your path and hasten the demise through government sponserships of coporations and business then, we may as well pull out all the stops and go for broke. The end thus justifies means. Meaning, we support everything that supports government including the military industrial complex and all that entails. Yes, even a draft, and yes sending people off to die. because in the end it hepls the government go broke and becomes eliminated. After all, made in the USA includes all those ships, planes and bombs were so good at making.
This in my mind becomes Keyesian as government spends and decides what, where, when and how all this money gets spent. A lefty idea wouldn't you agree?
I hope this is some sort of clarification but please elaborate more on your thoughts.
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I said that I am OK with civilians having the authority to arbitrarily restricting government.
you are STILL trying to push that this necessarily means I want to enslave children and send them off to die in a war. you are STILL trying to push that I'm a liberal big-government whack-job inflating fiat currency.
Deciding where and how to spend money isn't Keynesianism. Keynesianism is a very specific (and wrong) economic philosophy involving fiat currency, deficit spending, and the 'broken window' fallacy. You can be a Keynesian and agree with restricting government, or you can be an Austrian and agree with restricting government. You can't just call anyone you disagree with economically a Keynesian anymore that you can just call anyone you disagree with militarily a Neocon.
You still appear to have taken some emotional disagreement and are desperately reaching out for any 'sin' you can possibly apply and flinging them at me in rapid succession hoping that one sticks.
That's not even treatment I would give monsters like Obama and Romney. So why are you doing it to me?
No, Gunny didn't say that crap. And don't blame me, I'm just using your 'logic'--so-called logic Gunny didn't use and didn't pretend to use. Your 'logic', so, obviously we have to use your mother.
Hint: He said, make what spending they do more difficult for them. He did not say have them spend more, so they can have yet more difficulty. You said that--which would have been fine, if only you had said it, instead of trying to put those words in Gunny's mouth.
Elaborate on that.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aY5OQ5xv9HR8A small South Carolina parts supplier collected about $20.5 million over six years from the Pentagon for fraudulent shipping costs, including $998,798 for sending two 19-cent washers to an Army base in Texas, U.S. officials said.
The company also billed and was paid $455,009 to ship three machine screws costing $1.31 each to Marines in Habbaniyah, Iraq, and $293,451 to ship an 89-cent split washer to Patrick Air Force Base in Cape Canaveral, Florida, Pentagon records show.
The owners of C&D Distributors in Lexington, South Carolina -- twin sisters -- exploited a flaw in an automated Defense Department purchasing system: bills for shipping to combat areas or U.S. bases that were labeled ``priority'' were usually paid automatically, said Cynthia Stroot, a Pentagon investigator.
And from a US supplier, no less.
I think the government should buy the most expensive product available when they buy things they don't need with stolen money.
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