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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Most of it was blamed on companies holding back on doing anything while they waited to see what was going on with the Fiscal Cliff issue. Defense spending was lower after a huge surge in October (last month of the fiscal year) and that dropped off as well. Things are expected to rebound next month.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...039517142.html
    I could be wrong, but I do not think there will be a bounce back in Feb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigan11 View Post
    If we don't get some increased war spending here soon were gonna deflate like a balloon
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    figure in an 8% inflation rate and that makes the negative growth rate over 8%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Mitrosky View Post
    figure in an 8% inflation rate and that makes the negative growth rate over 8%.
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    And this is with $1 trillion+ dollar federal deficits, the fed printing $85+ billion dollars per month, and zero % interest rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Mitrosky View Post
    figure in an 8% inflation rate and that makes the negative growth rate over 8%.
    Source for 8% inflation figure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0611 View Post
    And this is with $1 trillion+ dollar federal deficits, the fed printing $85+ billion dollars per month, and zero % interest rates.
    That's the frightening part, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Source for 8% inflation figure?
    Ron Paul posted a chart showing the recent years of counterfeiting and my charts are behind the times but lets try getting our own numbers.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...in-Circulation






    If they double the money supply by counterfeiting, the dollar becomes worth half as much. You could recreate the same inflation by printing up twenty-six times the money we had at the baseline.

    I sort of figure inflation is more like 8%. Here is how.

    If you take the $5.00 as a base figure and double it you get $10.00. That is a 100% increase.

    If you take the $10.00 as a base figure and double it you get $20.00. That is a 200% increase from the original $5.00.

    If you take the $20.00 as a base figure and double it you get $40.00. That is a 300% increase.

    If you take the $40.00 as a base figure and double it you get $80.00. That is a 400% increase.

    And you still have a ways to go. All of that has happened in about the last 50 years.

    So like I say, "I sort of figure inflation is more like 8%."

    If you go to a bank website and use a calculator to see what the change is it comes out to over 500% and 10% a year. I figure what is a couple of percentage points like 2% a year; UNLESS IT'S A 2% THAT IS A FLAT-OUT LIE.

    If there had been any truth to their 2%-a-year inflation the gasoline that was 17 to 25 cents would now be running at about 34 to 50 cents a gallon after fifty years.

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Hap...30131-295.html
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