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    U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime

    quotes infowars, but has direct text of emails where the suppliers are saying their contact swears it was approved by Washington. Have others heard of this?

    "Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.

    A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme 'approved by Washington' is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

    Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2JR4FrkfH
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    Yeah, Assad is the bad guy and we are the good guys, even though it can be very confusing if you have all the facts, even downright contradictory. Like Al Gore said in 1992 when running as Clinton's VP pick, "everything that is down should be up and everything that is up should be down." Al Gore is an idiot, but he did have at least one good quote during his time in politics and it was true. I can only hope and pray that God will stop these mad men from committing more murder, destruction and mayhem to millions of people.
    Last edited by RickyJ; 01-30-2013 at 12:28 AM.

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    I was wondering were this thread was...
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    Conspiracy theory.

    Ban yourself.

  6. #5
    nevermind
    Last edited by Carehn; 01-30-2013 at 01:29 AM.
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    The email sent last Xmas day from from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to (company founder) Philip Doughty:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2983365/posts


    http://www.cyberwarnews.info/reports/a-look-into-the-britam-defence-data-leak-files/




    Phil

    We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.

    We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs,

    a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have.

    They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.

    Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?


    Kind regards
    David


    After looking at the email headers (see below), I have to admit that the email does indeed look genuine.
    The email was sent from "81.156.163.12" which is a BT Wholesale ADSL IP address.
    From there it was then relayed via "smtp.clients.netdns.net [202.157.148.149]"
    Finally it was delivered to a local mailbox on that server.

    I hate to admit it, but all these facts check out. So with Mythbusters objectivity I have to call this one plausible.

    I just really hope I don't get a visit from the plods for this ill advised sleuthing. (Shameless plug - Freelance sysadmin/coder for hire)

    The following are the email headers for those that are interested (read this from bottom to top):
    Received: (qmail 14074 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2012 23:57:29 +0800
    Received: from titanium.netdns.net (123.100.248.206) by neon.netdns.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2012 23:57:29 +0800
    Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by titanium.netdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BB4523A84 for <pdoughty@britamdefence.com>; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:57:18 +0000 (UTC)
    X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at S1AvWhNnLx31v.netdns.net
    Received: from titanium.netdns.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (titanium.netdns.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nWRHL2NRVdAP for <pdoughty@britamdefence.com>; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 23:57:18 +0800 (SGT)
    Received: from smtp.clients.netdns.net (smtp.clients.netdns.net [202.157.148.149]) by titanium.netdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D5F523A0E for <pdoughty@britamdefence.com>; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 23:57:18 +0800 (SGT)
    Received: (qmail 18137 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2012 15:57:27 -0000
    Received: from unknown (HELO Britam00323) (smtpbritam@britamdefence.com@81.156.163.12) by 0 with ESMTPA; 24 Dec 2012 15:57:27 -0000
    From: "David Goulding" <dgoulding@britamdefence.com>
    To: "'Phillip Doughty'" <pdoughty@britamdefence.com>
    http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1242490





    also:

    http://lewrockwell.com/rep4/false-fl...chem-arms.html
    Last edited by presence; 01-30-2013 at 08:50 AM.

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    It was on Daily Mail but now it's been removed. Interesting.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ame-Assad.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravedown View Post
    stopped at 'infowars'
    they sometimes get stuff first. That is why I'm asking. They had a number of stories the MSM later picked up (with no mention of them). You do have to weed what they put out, though, imho, but I'd rather have the information and form my own opinion than not even have the information that the question is there.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    What does "approved by Washington" actually mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    What does "approved by Washington" actually mean?
    Very vague, I agree. Who was that guy in communication with? Not having looked into it, I don't know.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    Interesting, Since Israel is using Chemical Weapons as an excuse to launch strikes against Syria.

    Has Syria ever used Chemical Weapons before?
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    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/world/...-syria-strike/
    (CNN) -- Israeli fighter jets attacked a convoy along the Lebanese-Syrian border overnight, a senior U.S. official said Wednesday, as tensions mounted over the potential fallout from Syria's protracted civil war.

    The Israelis struck the convoy in Syria because it was carrying SA-17 missile parts and equipment that could have been used to strike Israel, another source told CNN.

    The senior official said the United States does not believe the airstrike was linked to growing concerns about Syria's chemical weapons.

    "It was unrelated to chemical weapons, we see no nexus," the official said Wednesday. The strike is thought to have hit a "target of opportunity."

    "Whether it was an attack against a supply convoy or a terrorist leader, it's not particularly surprising," senior Brookings fellow Michael O'Hanlon said. "At first glance, it likely won't be seen as a large escalation. Though there's still a possibility for retaliation."
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01...#ixzz2JU9XKxQx
    Top Israeli officials have recently expressed worries that if desperate, the regime of President Bashar Assad could pass chemical weapons to Hezbollah or other militant groups. U.S. officials say they are tracking Syria's chemical weapons and that they still appear to be solidly under regime control.

    Among Israeli security officials' chief fears is that Hezbollah could get its hands on Syrian chemical arms and SA-17 anti-aircraft missiles. If that were to happen, it would change the balance of power in the region and greatly hinder Israel's ability to conduct air sorties in Lebanon.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01...#ixzz2JU9XKxQx
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...90T0K120130130
    "The target was a truck loaded with weapons, heading from Syria to Lebanon," said one Western diplomat, adding that the consignment seemed unlikely to have included chemical weapons.

    A source among rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said an air strike around dawn (0430 GMT) blasted a convoy on a mountain track about 5 kilometers (3 miles) south of where the main Damascus-Beirut highway crosses the border. Its load probably included high-tech anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles.

    "It attacked trucks carrying sophisticated weapons from the regime to Hezbollah," the source said, adding that it took place inside Syria, though the border is poorly defined in the area.

    A security official in the region also placed the attack on the Syrian side. A Lebanese security official denied any strike in Lebanon. It was not clear whether special forces took part.

    The Israeli government declined comment on the issue.
    Conflicting information with some same elements.
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20...er_attack.html
    JERUSALEM—Israel could launch a pre-emptive strike to stop Syria’s chemical weapons from reaching Lebanon’s Hezbollah or Al-Qaeda-inspired groups, officials said Sunday.

    The warning came as the military moved a rocket defence system to a main northern city, and Israel’s premier warned of dangers from both Syria and Iran.

    Israel has long expressed concerns that Syrian President Bashar Assad, clinging to power during a 22-month civil war, could lose control over his chemical weapons.
    I would watch out for a suspicious Chemical attack in the near future.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 01-30-2013 at 12:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post

    I would watch out for a suspicious Chemical attack in the near future.
    Right after that Iranian nuclear bomb we've been warned about since.... 1985.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicmax View Post
    Right after that Iranian nuclear bomb we've been warned about since.... 1985.
    I was referring to something happening there rather than here,, as an excuse for Israel to escalate this. To get more directly involved.

    Israel Has used Provocation and False Flags in the past.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Here's the FAILURE of PROPAGANDA lies and incompetency:

    SA-17s are Surface to Air missiles, not surface to surface... so the whole Israeli fear they will be used to strike targets in Israel one big lie... as usual BUT... here's the reason: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.500315

    "Target of Opportunity" aka Assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/world/...-syria-strike/

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/world/...-syria-strike/
    (CNN) -- Israeli fighter jets attacked a convoy along the Lebanese-Syrian border overnight, a senior U.S. official said Wednesday, as tensions mounted over the potential fallout from Syria's protracted civil war.

    The Israelis struck the convoy in Syria because it was carrying SA-17 missile parts and equipment that could have been used to strike Israel
    , another source told CNN.

    The senior official said the United States does not believe the airstrike was linked to growing concerns about Syria's chemical weapons.

    "It was unrelated to chemical weapons, we see no nexus," the official said Wednesday. The strike is thought to have hit a "target of opportunity."
    Last edited by HOLLYWOOD; 01-30-2013 at 11:32 PM.
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    False. Flag.

    The situation in Syria needs to be observed closely, and in context. The real reason for the actions in Syria is to implement and maintain control of a Syrian Central Bank. Syria's "crime" against the US was simple: dump the Petrol Dollar and use a different non Central Bank issued currency to purchase oil with. So it should come as no suprise that the powers that control the US Govt want nothing more than to put that entire region under their control. The reason for this False Flag however is simple, Russia and China are watching us very closely, and would attack if they had any evidence that the US staged a collapse of their monetary system in order to make Syria dependant on the same powers that control most of the countries with Central Banks.

    This explains it better than I can.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ravedown View Post
    stopped at 'infowars'
    http://lewrockwell.com/rep4/false-fl...chem-arms.html

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    quotes infowars, but has direct text of emails where the suppliers are saying their contact swears it was approved by Washington. Have others heard of this?

    "Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.

    A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme 'approved by Washington' is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

    Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2JR4FrkfH
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
    You said infowars, but the link is to DailyMail, and it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    You said infowars, but the link is to DailyMail, and it doesn't work.
    I added another link in the post above yours.

    eta: the link I provided cites the (now missing) dailymail article.

    eta: Here is an archived snapshot of the article:

    http://web.archive.org/web/201301292...ame-Assad.html
    Last edited by openfire; 06-14-2013 at 10:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    What does "approved by Washington" actually mean?
    Langley

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    Here's the FAILURE of PROPAGANDA lies and incompetency:

    SA-17s are Surface to Air missiles, not surface to surface... so the whole Israeli fear they will be used to strike targets in Israel one big lie... as usual BUT... here's the reason: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.500315

    "Target of Opportunity" aka Assassination

    I agree Hollywood .In order to broker Peace I have offered to take all SA 17's and hold them with only a minimal storage charge ( $60 a month)

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    Quote Originally Posted by openfire View Post
    I added another link in the post above yours.

    eta: the link I provided cites the (now missing) dailymail article.

    eta: Here is an archived snapshot of the article:

    http://web.archive.org/web/201301292...ame-Assad.html
    Thanks. I'm likely to get flamed for years over this, but both the Guardian and Yahoo cite Infowars as their source. I'm going to assume that the Guardian pulled their story when it turned out to be not reliable.



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